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FINALLY!!! - Are you a Windsurfer or Kitesurfer?

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Created by PeterPaan > 9 months ago, 12 Apr 2013
PeterPaan
NSW, 66 posts
12 Apr 2013 11:06PM
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Just want to say a Big Thank You for all those who have participated. Not only has this been a very interesting social exercise, and as I am about to present, the data themselves have also shown some very interesting insights about the profile of who we are as a group.

As this is just a simple survey, there will always be "gaps" and "incompleteness" about what the data shows, so we will just need to accept that this is what it is. What it shows, however, is a "flavour" about who we are as a community on this Seabreeze Forum.

Overall, there were 314 responses!! Generally the data quality was high. There were some minor anomalies with the responses to one of the questions below (you will see what I mean later......), but these affected only a minority of responses. And for some reason, only the Boys seem to have got it wrong. I have also noticed that there were some respondents who had responded more than once, with one particular individual responded 6 times. But I am only going to assume that he is probably responding on behalf of other people that he knows ought to have responded but who couldn't (so thank you), and that there might be other respondents who "Do Both" windsurfing and kitesurfing (so they entered twice to give two points of view). Overall these accounted to a small number. One spooky thing I noticed was that there were EXACTLY 157 responses each from the Kitesurfers and Windsurfers!!! What are the chances of that??

Unfortunately, the only way I can show you the complete story is by putting these into very boring looking tables - but I think they should be fairly self explanatory and I think tells a more compelling story. I will let you do the % yourself. I have left the data as raw numbers only so you get a real sense of the number of you out there.

Most of these are separated into Kitesurfer vs Windsurfers and Boys vs Girls. You will see what I mean.

Anyway....here they are. Enjoy your weekend!











Stuthepirate
WA, 3090 posts
12 Apr 2013 10:46PM
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Nice work PP
Good to see some data that's been provided by the people on the actual water and consumer front.
Interesting the "switch" statistics.

theDoctor
NSW, 4203 posts
13 Apr 2013 2:00AM
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nerd

Gorgo
VIC, 3802 posts
13 Apr 2013 9:05AM
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40% of kiteboarders and 60% of windsurfers think they're advanced riders? 5-10% would be more accurate.

eppo
WA, 6316 posts
13 Apr 2013 8:17AM
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Yeh I agree I think the spectrum has shifted as the pros have got better. What's your definition of advanced though? Interesting ?

In my mind it would be serious freestyles and those doing strapless ariel stuff. Also 40 knot megaloop jumpers maybe?

Freddofrog
WA, 442 posts
13 Apr 2013 8:21AM
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Man, I gotta pick a sport with more chicks.... netball anyone...

(on a nerdy note, ditch the tables, combine the guy/girl results as they are largely irrelevant, and use bar charts)


Prawnhead
NSW, 1308 posts
13 Apr 2013 12:44PM
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theDoctor said...


nerd


i believe you are familiar with the phrase about the pot calling the kettle black!

kiter77
VIC, 273 posts
13 Apr 2013 4:32PM
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63 started out windsurfing and changed to kiting- 1 started out kiting and went to windsurfing , big difference

lotofwind
NSW, 4699 posts
13 Apr 2013 9:10PM
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They are all jumping ship like rats on a sinking boat. LOL

jkiter
QLD, 139 posts
13 Apr 2013 9:29PM
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bahahah!
62 advanced kiteboarders! and only 4 people like over 25knots!!!

toppleover
QLD, 1208 posts
13 Apr 2013 10:33PM
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That was 4 people wouldn't get off their couch unless it was 25 knots or over.

lotofwind
NSW, 4699 posts
14 Apr 2013 6:43PM
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^^^^^^Fat bastards??????.

hamburglar
ACT, 2163 posts
14 Apr 2013 9:31PM
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Bahaa haaa ssiss haa ha
Your kiding right
With such a small demographic sample compared to what is actually out there ...........

Makes you wish you were you were .......

(Less gumbies to dodge )ha ha haa did i type that out loud

No no Keep up the good work, don't foget to mention kiting is dangerous is hard to learn, expensive, helps to have gay tendencies, what about the sharks and windsurfing is heaps cooler
:Op

hamburglar
ACT, 2163 posts
14 Apr 2013 9:34PM
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jkiter said...
bahahah!
62 advanced kiteboarders! and only 4 people like over 25knots!!!



Boots all the way ...............
Says it all

rayoli
65 posts
14 Apr 2013 8:04PM
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good on ya,,leave yourself open to critics of a survey result on a small sample..
doesn't suprise me that most like 15 to 25,,,,and girls are still sitting on the beach,, that hasn't changed much since puberty blues !!..go girls step up ..
Rating your skill level,, open to personal dreams / reality !!
My 14yo son, (advanced beginner) luv's a solid 25+ at our NQ local..
Different locations style conditions etc suit different kiters and your nerd work for those that are interested makes a good summary.


hamburglar
ACT, 2163 posts
14 Apr 2013 10:12PM
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rayoli said...
good on ya,,leave yourself open to critics of a survey result on a small sample..
doesn't suprise me that most like 15 to 25,,,,and girls are still sitting on the beach,, that hasn't changed much since puberty blues !!..go girls step up ..
Rating your skill level,, open to personal dreams / reality !!
My 14yo son, (advanced beginner) luv's a solid 25+ at our NQ local..
Different locations style conditions etc suit different kiters and your nerd work for those that are interested makes a good summary.





Saturday night and one of your most coherent posts ever ........
Nice work, keep on the wagon, but don't confuse it with the shuttle bus ...... mmmm

rayoli
65 posts
14 Apr 2013 9:04PM
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P.S Shark sighting, is that mainly a WA thing,,,or wave surfing any ocean beach break.
Bull sharks Syd / Bris bays .. unsighted !!!
NQ..ray's,stingers,crocadiles and sharks, tigers locally, turtle is their favourite dinner i've been led to belive..
Just something to throw into the next survey,,,why take the risk.............

PeterPaan
NSW, 66 posts
15 Apr 2013 12:04AM
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rayoli said...
P.S Shark sighting, is that mainly a WA thing,,,or wave surfing any ocean beach break.
Bull sharks Syd / Bris bays .. unsighted !!!
NQ..ray's,stingers,crocadiles and sharks, tigers locally, turtle is their favourite dinner i've been led to belive..
Just something to throw into the next survey,,,why take the risk.............


Sorry mate, I have not had the time to map these out......but I should really share these so that you know what people have said!! Or maybe you can try to summarise them for us??!!

in front of me eating a turtle..... 0.32% 1
Leighton 0.32% 1
Yullingup WA 0.32% 1
Sydney Heads 0.32% 1
safety bay. near penguin island 0.32% 1
margies 0.32% 1
Hervey Bay 0.32% 1
Lancelin, Gnaraloo, Exmouth, Esperance 0.32% 1
Inverloch- We are regularly visited by men in grey suits- not for from Phillip island seal colony in Vic. 0.32% 1
Trial Bay South West Rocks 0.32% 1
Redcliffe /Brisbane 10 ft tiger 0.32% 1
Tathra 0.32% 1
Get to see small reef sharks (3-4ft) quite frequently in Keppel Bay although have never encountered one that would make me poo my pants 0.32% 1
The Verge Bellambi and Shoalhaven Heads 0.32% 1
Caloundra Stockton Leighton Exmouth 0.32% 1
Off Valentine in Lake Macquarie - 2m bull shark.. just cruised past . I turned around and went to the shore until it left the area and then hoped like hell it didn't come back! 0.32% 1
Scales Bay South Australia 0.32% 1
The Cliff, Newcastle 0.32% 1
Nelson bay 0.32% 1
Seen about 3 Small Great Whites between Lancelin and Wedge. 0.32% 1
trigg 0.32% 1
Exmouth WA 0.32% 1
ocean 0.32% 1
In the surf zone, both windsurfing and paddle boarding. Paddle boarding i saw a great white with a dorsal fin the size of a four wheel drive tyre cruising on the surface. Most whilst windsurfing have been flashes and most likely white tipped reef sharks 0.32% 1
Wellington Point (Qld) 0.32% 1
Shark Bay Coral Bay 0.32% 1
In the water 0.32% 1
Sydney 0.32% 1
sailing @ caloundra bar 2 bull sharks in break 0.32% 1
Cabarita beach and Sandgate 0.32% 1
sydney 0.32% 1
Lake Macquarie ( pullbah Island) , wanda beach 0.32% 1
trigg tiger shark 0.32% 1
Mullaloo/ Pinneroo point Perth 0.32% 1
lake macquarie and port stevens 0.32% 1
St George's beach WA 0.32% 1
Long Reef 0.32% 1
SA. 0.32% 1
lancelin,greenhead,north west 0.32% 1
saftey bay 0.32% 1
Long Reef, Collaroy, Maui 0.32% 1
Birubi Beach 0.32% 1
Alva Beach, QLD 0.32% 1
Both just off narrow neck on the Gold Coast and off Scarborough Beach in Perth 0.32% 1
Boat Harbour Wanda Beach 0.32% 1
Ningaloo 0.32% 1
Dongara (last year) and Woodmans Point (5 yrs ago) 0.32% 1
loaders creek 0.32% 1
Cronulla 0.32% 1
open ocean off WA 0.32% 1
Shark Bay 0.32% 1
Whitsundays QLD, Egypt, Mandurah Estuary 0.32% 1
North Entrance 0.32% 1
Cocos Islands and Western Australia 0.32% 1
Ambushed by a bull shark mandurah estuary (kiters beach near chanel)) went for my mate then me. Seen +3 others in estuary, 2 in ocean at Avalon (WA) 0.32% 1
Harmless Port Jackson shark kiting in shallow water above sea grass beds 0.32% 1
Aspendale (Port Philip) 0.32% 1
Cotten tree, kawana, mudjimba, north shore & port duglas. All up i,ve had 12 very very close enconters and 1 hit my board 0.32% 1
north Queensland just reef sharks. 0.32% 1
Victoria, Hawaii & NSW 0.32% 1
hawaii, small reef shark. 0.32% 1
City Beach - Gnaraloo - WA 0.32% 1
Cotton Tree River Mouth, QLD Kingscliff, NSW 0.32% 1
NW WA 0.32% 1
Darwin, Casuarina Beach and Lee Point 0.32% 1
Wellington Point near Brisbane 0.32% 1
Off trigg wa and off dee why nsw. 0.32% 1
Darook park in 2 feet of water (12 foot tiger), another off boat harbour, another off windang 0.32% 1
South West Rocks Australia 0.32% 1
Sailed passed a 3m shark at Scarborough a couple of months ago 0.32% 1
Boat Harbour cronulla Kurnell 0.32% 1
South west rocks Nsw 0.32% 1
~200 m off Bulli beach 0.32% 1
murray mouth 0.32% 1
Newcastle offshore, came up in front and almost went over it 0.32% 1
Parkdale, Melbourne 0.32% 1
Lots of times at Cronulla 0.32% 1
Cactus 0.32% 1
Coronation Beach. Not very big, looked like some kind of reef shark. 0.32% 1
Wa penguin island. Sadly there was an attack two days later. 0.32% 1
Ocean Beach, Umina NSW 0.32% 1
Jervis bay 0.32% 1
Exmouth 0.64% 2
GC QLD PNG SSC QLD 0.32% 1
Denmark Ocean Beach, WA 0.32% 1
Florida, USA 0.32% 1
small reef shark nibbled my knee off a reef - albany wa narrowly missed (<1m) coliding with shark off leeman wa 0.32% 1
maui+wollongong 0.32% 1
Byron bay 0.32% 1
Trinity Beach Green Island 0.32% 1
Behind trawler of redcliffes, Qld 0.32% 1
Esperance x2, Lancelin x1 0.32% 1
mooloolaba 0.32% 1
In 0.5m water.....2.5m Bronze whaler following the smell of a dead shark carcass on the beach 0.32% 1
very large great white off mullaloo beach west oz 0.32% 1
Off local beach SW WA, 4.5 metre whitepointer. Also, Rottnest, FNQ, Exmouth, Darwin, Gove, Sharkbay (go figure). 0.32% 1
Middle Rock NSW 0.32% 1
Narrabeen 0.32% 1
Point Halloran, Mouth of Eprapah Creek. I didn't see it I fell on it 0.32% 1
woodmans point WA 0.32% 1
off Bribie, Miami, Wello Manly, They are out there. Will do survey twice as different personas as I windsurf and kite. 0.32% 1
Inverloch , Sandy point , Port Philip bay Bass Straight 0.32% 1
During finding Nemo there were a few around 0.32% 1
Lord Howe island 0.32% 1
Wrapped in batter. 0.32% 1
Botany bay 0.32% 1
baja, mexico 0.32% 1
south africa 0.32% 1
Darwin 0.32% 1
Outer reef, and at the beach break 0.32% 1
South West Rocks 0.32% 1
lake macquarie 0.64% 2
safety bay 0.32% 1
ningaloo reef. regular sightings, no white pointers yet. I think? 0.32% 1

PeterPaan
NSW, 66 posts
15 Apr 2013 12:17AM
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rayoli said...
P.S Shark sighting, is that mainly a WA thing,,,or wave surfing any ocean beach break.
Bull sharks Syd / Bris bays .. unsighted !!!
NQ..ray's,stingers,crocadiles and sharks, tigers locally, turtle is their favourite dinner i've been led to belive..
Just something to throw into the next survey,,,why take the risk.............


The profile of the PEOPLE who responded to seeing a shark are presented below, but it does not mean that that's where they saw the shark. The previous listing is the actual complete list, so that has the answers in there.....but below MIGHT give you a clue to your question......



hamburglar
ACT, 2163 posts
15 Apr 2013 12:50AM
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NO Honestly you need to get out more

TurtleHunter
WA, 1669 posts
14 Apr 2013 11:35PM
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funny I didn't know there were waves in N.T.

juggler
VIC, 243 posts
15 Apr 2013 1:48PM
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What did I miss? I was out kiteboarding

Probably needed 4 skills levels, could of thrown in "expert" I'd say I'm advanced but far from expert.
Probably why number of advanced is do high
Interesting numbers thou either way



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