Filthy West road trip - chasing giants

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DutchRooster
DutchRooster
NSW
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17 Dec 2012 11:47pm
Just got back from a fantastic road trip, following in the footsteps of Ben Wilson's WA documentary. If you've seen the documentary (check vimeo if you havent); we did the northern part of the trip, heading up about 1200km north of Perth and stopping at some of the best spots I've ever kited.

I'm pretty new to strapless kitesurfing - been riding a Whip for 5 weeks of practice and got a baptism of fire. 2km out riding 4m waves in various reef channels... wow.. Completely changed my perception of kitesurfing. I'm selling the twintip and all kites above 10m, and will add a big wave board to my quiver (the Whip gets very nervous in big surf) and a 6m Evo.

Highlight was a fast breaking 3m 'gnarly' reef break with side offshore winds and sharp shallow reefs welcoming any errors. If you get it wrong: may Lady Luck be with you... But so rewarding when you get it right though: a wave that keeps on and on and on...

Happy to report no shark sightings, but many sea lions, turtles, sting rays, and big mofo lizards (a 2m lizard - WTF?!).

We camped in the bush/seaside every night (billion star hotel) and kitesurfed 5 hours a day. Each of us had a kitemare or 2 but no serious casualties.

One of the best kite trips ever. I'll be forever chasing giants from here on...

[}:)]
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
17 Dec 2012 9:25pm
DutchRooster said...

I'm selling the twintip and all kites above 10m


Oh good, we can add you to the growing list of people with almost no chance of progressing their kiting skills any further then shall we? .

In all seriousness though, riding a twintip and learning some un-hooked tricks is probably one of the best things you can do to help you waveride better. I see so many people here that can surf well but have such a poor understanding of kite placement and control that it really holds them back.

p.s. Plus I don't understand how you could only mow the lawn on a surfy for the rest of your days, mixing it up is what kiting is all about!
Surfy31
Surfy31
WA
198 posts
WA, 198 posts
17 Dec 2012 9:37pm
good onya mate, forget the twinny and enter the world of risky fun
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
17 Dec 2012 9:45pm
Surfy31 said...
forget the twinny and enter the world of risky fun


I'm finding this statement pretty hard to process. Can't tell if trolling or just trolling.
DutchRooster
DutchRooster
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
18 Dec 2012 1:16am
I'm no freestyle champ but I'm no chump either. I've been twin tipping for 8 years, and at 42 I won't advance my skills much further than they are now. A twin tip screws up my back, the jumps and chop f-ck up my knees, and I'm bored of the tricks that I can do.

Each to their own.

I found a new lease of life in learning to use the power of the wave. I'm pretty ambidextrous so can ride the waves toeside or heelside in both directions, and I'm enjoying learning to tack and improve my footwork, and learning how to use the wave.

WA is flipping beautiful, btw. (But no one should go there. Big sharks etc.)
Jonopark
Jonopark
WA
400 posts
WA, 400 posts
17 Dec 2012 11:14pm
Glad to hear you ripped up west Oz. Must love the haters (sir d?+khead above), what kind of post was that! Keep charging mate
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
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18 Dec 2012 7:57am
Fair call. I wasn't directing that statement entirely at you, more just towards the whole "I will only ever ride a surfboard because that's all I want to do" crowd...

Sounds like you got things sussed, keep at it! and really as long as your having fun it's all good!
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
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18 Dec 2012 8:01am
Jonopark said...
Glad to hear you ripped up west Oz. Must love the haters (sir d?+khead above), what kind of post was that! Keep charging mate

Typical behavior. Someone posts joke/opinion on internet forum, so someone else with different opinion says they are a "hater" and calls them a d!ckhead... ironic or moronic??? you be the judge.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
18 Dec 2012 10:06am
I know a few kiters that have stopped using the TT due to bung knees ect. Strapless surfing gives a new lease on life.

Stoked for ya champ.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
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18 Dec 2012 8:14am
Underoath said...
I know a few kiters that have stopped using the TT due to bung knees ect. Strapless surfing gives a new lease on life.


Although it appears a "less impact" alternative to freestyle, strapless surfboard riding still can put a lot of stress on knees and it is also still pretty easy to blow an ACL or other ligaments. Usually when one foot slides off and not the other. Also the added fact of no padding under foot on a big board bouncing through choppy water doesn't really help the joints either.

However I do agree that for the most part it is far less destructive on the knees than doing kitelow wakestyle tricks.

p.s. A small known fact, but a fair few wakeboarders in the past have switched to wakeskating after having ACL reconstructions and other knee problems in the belief that it is less likely to hurt their knee again... only to blow their other knee out pretty soon after .
loose
loose
WA
18 posts
WA, 18 posts
18 Dec 2012 9:18am
Sir Rowdy
you seem to know it all mate
strapless surfboard riding is what everyone wants to do
its cooler than TT'ing
you know it
those who stick to TT's know it

p.s. - Ill only ever ride surboards (unstrapped)
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
18 Dec 2012 9:29am
jeez Rowdy it sounds like you might be close to going back to sea breeze rehab
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5125 posts
VIC, 5125 posts
18 Dec 2012 1:23pm
Glad you had a great time. Were you riding unhooked in the waves as well?

sir ROWDY said...
....Typical behavior. Someone posts joke/opinion on internet forum, so someone else with different opinion says they are a "hater" and calls them a d!ckhead... ironic or moronic??? you be the judge.


Typical behaviour. Someone who clearly knows what they are doing posts to share their stoke and somebody hijacks the thread to focus on one small line in the post.
THE DONG
THE DONG
VIC
518 posts
VIC, 518 posts
18 Dec 2012 1:23pm
Get back to
the topic bitches
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
18 Dec 2012 10:44am
Glad you had an awesome trip mate. all forms of riding are awesome and the recent and growing strapless SB zealots makes me just laugh. done the strapless thing hate it. But not saying it is better or worse just doesn't suite my disposition. Strapless can be easier on the knees but used to kill my ankles.

Glad to hear you got the stoke you needed man. Don't doubt what you do just because people need to justify CONTINUALLY what they do. Great to hear you have found another lease on kiting life going strapless man awesome.
Jared888
Jared888
WA
389 posts
WA, 389 posts
18 Dec 2012 11:21am
sounds like fun dutch, have thought about taking straps off board but often find my self a bit powered up, I think from playing around you can position ur feet to make board more boyant and thus fly a smaller kite, I think still figuring it out but thanks, you have inspired me to try harder cheers
and yep my knees ar post op fcked and im only in my early 30s
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
18 Dec 2012 11:58am
"Hi-jack a thread" ... hahahahaha

"get back to the topic".... hahahaha

Gold guys, gold.

Can someone inform me of what we should all be posting about??? Because I don't know what the topic actually is here as there was never a question asked, all he posted was a statement about having a great trip. Thus seeing we are on an internet forum it's open to interpretation as what you would like to post here ;).

But I guess I could have always added another boring post telling him how fantastic it is that he loves kiting unstrapped now and that we should all go hold hands and sing songs down the beach because we ride un-strapped together and it's wayyy better than riding a Twin Tip because those guys are try hard gangstas... But that hardly would have been original or even mildly entertaining would it ;) .

kiterboy
kiterboy
2614 posts
2614 posts
18 Dec 2012 12:22pm
sir ROWDY said...
"Hi-jack a thread" ... hahahahaha

"get back to the topic".... hahahaha

Gold guys, gold.

Can someone inform me of what we should all be posting about??? Because I don't know what the topic actually is here as there was never a question asked, all he posted was a statement about having a great trip. Thus seeing we are on an internet forum it's open to interpretation as what you would like to post here ;).

But I guess I could have always added another boring post telling him how fantastic it is that he loves kiting unstrapped now and that we should all go hold hands and sing songs down the beach because we ride un-strapped together and it's wayyy better than riding a Twin Tip because those guys are try hard gangstas... But that hardly would have been original or even mildly entertaining would it ;) .




LOL.
You know how it is here, you can only participate if you don't have a different opinion or view points.

jumpindave
jumpindave
WA
124 posts
WA, 124 posts
18 Dec 2012 12:36pm
I never thought I would say this, but the wave guys on here come across more whiney, judge-mental and worried about what everyone else is doing than any TT riders I know. So can you please loosen up guys your making us grand-master wave riders look bad!
As much as the Sir posts complete nonsense 90% of the time, he actually says some things that are pretty helpful and makes sense. Although you have to sift through the garbage, he is still more helpful than most other users on this site.

Cheers,

Dave.
Mask
Mask
WA
293 posts
WA, 293 posts
18 Dec 2012 1:17pm
jumpindave said...
I never thought I would say this, but the wave guys on here come across more whiney, judge-mental and worried about what everyone else is doing than any TT riders I know. So can you please loosen up guys your making us grand-master wave riders look bad!
As much as the Sir posts complete nonsense 90% of the time, he actually says some things that are pretty helpful and makes sense. Although you have to sift through the garbage, he is still more helpful than most other users on this site.

Cheers,

Dave.


ye, he is quite a knowledgable tosser
DutchRooster
DutchRooster
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
18 Dec 2012 4:46pm
Cheers for the positive feedback. I think I can even find some positives from Sir R - its all good.

Main point of the thread was simply to share with the forum what a fantastic trip its been. Great waves, good wind, incredible landscape and wildlife. And it was great to leave the wife and kids behind and spend some quality time with 2 of my best mates.

And yeah; I've moved on from twintip to strapless surfboard. Everyone evolves a little differently in this sport. I'm not slagging off twin tip riders. I used to windsurf and I'm not slagging that off either. We all have a similar passion but exercise it in different ways. I'd extend the same respect and/or assistance to a fellow straplessboard rider that I would to a twin tipper, a windsurfer, or a surfer (even the gay ones that dont wear boardies over their wetsuits. [}:)])

@ Jared: if you're interested in going strapless my advice would be just take them off and go for it. Throw yourself into it. A few hours on the board and you'll have the hang of it - its a steep, fast learning curve. I honestly don't think its as difficult as it looks!

@ Eppo: I used the new 2013 10m Evo a few times now so will post something seperately with my thoughts on it.

craggers
craggers
WA
475 posts
WA, 475 posts
18 Dec 2012 2:02pm
I, for one, am so ambidextrous i can ride with my head up my arse. feels great, cant see much.
DutchRooster
DutchRooster
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
18 Dec 2012 5:52pm
Gorgo said...
Glad you had a great time. Were you riding unhooked in the waves as well?


Not intentionally... .

I aspire to ride them unhooked. I've practised unhooked on the beach & walking downwind with the kite, and on the twin tip (during downwinders). I've only had 5 weeks strapless though and then threw myself into 3.5m waves on the outside of South Passage at Lancelin. So a baptism of fire - unhooked would have been a recipe for disaster LOL. Although the waves were biggest at Lancelin, it was the one of the easiest spots of the road trip. Some of the other spots were (side) offshore, exposed reefs, a tiny entry/exit point etc.

One of the great things about the sport is there's always more to learn...

PS @craggers: are you an ambidextrous contortionist? Cool
surfingboye
surfingboye
NSW
2707 posts
NSW, 2707 posts
20 Dec 2012 12:02am
DutchRooster said...

Just got back from a fantastic road trip, following in the footsteps of Ben Wilson's WA documentary. If you've seen the documentary (check vimeo if you havent); we did the northern part of the trip, heading up about 1200km north of Perth and stopping at some of the best spots I've ever kited.

I'm pretty new to strapless kitesurfing - been riding a Whip for 5 weeks of practice and got a baptism of fire. 2km out riding 4m waves in various reef channels... wow.. Completely changed my perception of kitesurfing. I'm selling the twintip and all kites above 10m, and will add a big wave board to my quiver (the Whip gets very nervous in big surf) and a 6m Evo.

Highlight was a fast breaking 3m 'gnarly' reef break with side offshore winds and sharp shallow reefs welcoming any errors. If you get it wrong: may Lady Luck be with you... But so rewarding when you get it right though: a wave that keeps on and on and on...

Happy to report no shark sightings, but many sea lions, turtles, sting rays, and big mofo lizards (a 2m lizard - WTF?!).

We camped in the bush/seaside every night (billion star hotel) and kitesurfed 5 hours a day. Each of us had a kitemare or 2 but no serious casualties.

One of the best kite trips ever. I'll be forever chasing giants from here on...

[}:)]


So what were some of the details of the trip...
Car use (private or hire).
4wd needed for most spots.
Fully self sufficient with food etc.

And don't you ride in boots SirRowdy... And aren't they fluro??? lol.
DutchRooster
DutchRooster
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
20 Dec 2012 7:55pm
surfingboye said...
DutchRooster said...

Just got back from a fantastic road trip, following in the footsteps of Ben Wilson's WA documentary. If you've seen the documentary (check vimeo if you havent); we did the northern part of the trip, heading up about 1200km north of Perth and stopping at some of the best spots I've ever kited.

I'm pretty new to strapless kitesurfing - been riding a Whip for 5 weeks of practice and got a baptism of fire. 2km out riding 4m waves in various reef channels... wow.. Completely changed my perception of kitesurfing. I'm selling the twintip and all kites above 10m, and will add a big wave board to my quiver (the Whip gets very nervous in big surf) and a 6m Evo.

Highlight was a fast breaking 3m 'gnarly' reef break with side offshore winds and sharp shallow reefs welcoming any errors. If you get it wrong: may Lady Luck be with you... But so rewarding when you get it right though: a wave that keeps on and on and on...

Happy to report no shark sightings, but many sea lions, turtles, sting rays, and big mofo lizards (a 2m lizard - WTF?!).

We camped in the bush/seaside every night (billion star hotel) and kitesurfed 5 hours a day. Each of us had a kitemare or 2 but no serious casualties.

One of the best kite trips ever. I'll be forever chasing giants from here on...

[}:)]


So what were some of the details of the trip...
Car use (private or hire).
4wd needed for most spots.
Fully self sufficient with food etc.



We rented a UTE 4x4, you don't need it for most spots we went to apart from Spot X and possibly Gnaraloo if its been raining (2 1/2 off road). We def needed it for the camping. We brought extra water and a large cool box and typically stocked up every other day. There's lots of little places along the way, so no dramas running out of beer. For cooking we used a Dutch oven; stew on the campfire. My Aussie mate had a proper swag. Other mate bought a $19 kiddie tent at Kmart and a $27 sleeping bag. Used his board bag as a mattress. I brought a $70 tent at Anaconda that was a bitch to set up, and a self inflating mat.

We used 7m 8m 9m and 10m kites, mostly the 8m though.

Had a few kite mares. I dropped my kite in the sink at Gnaraloo, got rolled in a wave, kite inside out and twisted. While trying to relaunch the lines were twisted, so kite loops... A windsurfer (who probably thought this was normal kite saying skills...) went straight across through my lines (on his way out), my chicken loop popped off the hook so now the bar is 6m out of reach. It's offshore wind and wave after wave pounding. Managed to get to my bar, got the kite back up and got it under control with twisted lines, enough to make it back to the little launch beach. Scraped my fins crossing over very shallow reef to add to it all. But still the best kite spot ever. That wave man...

Both my mates were caught out by a thunder cloud that changed good SW wind to proper offshore wind within minutes, at Greenhead. One made it back into the bay ontime, but dropped the kite and had to swim for it. The other didn't make it into the bay but just managed to hold on to a coral head on the outside of the northern head of the bay. Had to drive around to collect him... He could have ditched the kite if he'd missed that reef, but luckily didn't have to.

One of us also dropped the kite I to a big wave on the outside of Lancelin. Wrapped up inside out, kite wouldn't relaunch even with a bit of help from me and my other mate. He spent 45min swimming out there, sea lions popping up around him, trying to wrap up his lines and swim back when his kite suddenly caught wind. So he unravelled what he could and half body dragged back to the bay, half kited back.

No injuries apart from stubbed toes (same mate, repeatedly ). Many bruises, but I've been told that that's the way the body get rid of fear...



default
default
WA
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21 Dec 2012 2:29pm
^^ ha, the old gnaraloo stub toe!

hard not to stare at the waves while walking along (and not looking where walking) the little track ay.. think all of us on the last trip had meat missing off toes.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
22 Dec 2012 3:30pm
default said...
^^ ha, the old gnaraloo stub toe!

hard not to stare at the waves while walking along (and not looking where walking) the little track ay.. think all of us on the last trip had meat missing off toes.



Soooo bad... but I think Morocco might have even been worse for me, Keahi as well so I heard hahaha.
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