Free Lessons in Self Rescue

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Kitehard
Kitehard
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19 Jan 2006 3:24pm
Hi Peeps,

After having a discussion with a friend who happens to be an officer from the Water Police, he mentioned the amount of nuisance caused by rescuing kitesurfers along the coast between Woodies and Pinnaroo, and also the amount of rescues we (AKS) seem to be involved in when it gets windy, we have decided to run a FREE clinic this Sunday morning to teach kiters a few basic safety techniques to try and prevent the amount of people needing or even looking like needing rescuing.

If you are interested, we will be at Brighton near the Cafe at the southern end of the carpark at around 10am and will be happy to do a group demonstration and help individuals learn the methods of self rescue. We will also cover winding your lines safely in the water to facilitate a clean safe rescue.

There are three methods of self rescue and we will run through all of them, as well as be on hand for a while to answer any questions you may have regarding kiting.

We will also cover self rescueing on "bow" kites and improved leash systems.

This will be a free service. If you decide to make a donation we wont stop you, just to help cover costs.

The wind should be offshore anyways so why not come down and sharpen up some old skills or learn some new ones.

Jees, we might even be able to organise a BBQ with a cupla beers if the donations are there, or someone else might like to organise this side of it????


Good winds, let me know what you think.

Darren Marshall
user
user
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19 Jan 2006 3:57pm
Aw,geez ! What a nuisance to actually have to rescue someone !
I mean,what else are they doing? Having a pleasure cruise that US TAXPAYERS are paying for ?

Apart from that,the clinic sounds like a great idea.

Sef rescue seems to be overlooked to some extent. I am not real good at it ! Its got to be one of the most important skills to learn.

Plus,there isn't allways someone to come to your aid !
Ben De Jonge
Ben De Jonge
WA
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19 Jan 2006 4:35pm
Freakin great idea Darren!

Tell me where Brighton is and i'm there!

(I'm not joking)
Tom_
Tom_
WA
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19 Jan 2006 4:36pm
kitehard ive been trying to contact you bout the instructor course- is there a phone number i can reach you on?
hosko
hosko
WA
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19 Jan 2006 4:44pm
ben: southern end of scarborough=brighton. it's at the end of brighton road.
mcbain
mcbain
WA
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19 Jan 2006 4:46pm
count me in
almurch
almurch
WA
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19 Jan 2006 5:49pm
Terrific idea,

I was kiting at Margaret River Main Break a week ago and my spectra line that connects to my front two lines unexpectantly snapped, leaving me out the back with a 23knot SW and 3mswell, needless to say a sticky situation. At about 6pm with sundown expected in about an hour.

Luckily, I had been taught the self rescue technique (never used it before) hauled in my lines, grabbed both wing tips and dragged my way into the Margaret River Mouth Beach safely, kite, board and lines in tact (lines very tangles thought)

Had I not have know this technique the situation would have been much worse with me and my kite being at sea for probably more than an hour with the sun fast dissappearing and then ending up on some reef near Kilcarnup.

Big ups for the self rescue!!

Big ups for buoyancy/impact vest, great for these situations.
Coral Sea
Coral Sea
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19 Jan 2006 8:34pm
Thanks Darren what a great initiative.

Fancy writing a few words on self rescue for the forum?

I noticed that self rescue is conspicuously absent from the FAQ pages.

The heading “swimming in” returns “page not found”

Andy
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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19 Jan 2006 6:37pm
Brilliant idea
thanks for giving up some of your time Kitehard.
will certianly try and make it to see,
self rescue is like CPR can never be told enough times.

look foreward to it
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
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19 Jan 2006 10:35pm
Hi Guys and Neoniphon,

I would be pleased to write something for the FAQ, however, a critical part of self rescue requires winding the lines in the water, a trick which is dangerous to fingers if not executed properly. It would be very difficult to explain with a keyboard, but easy to demonstrate and then have you have a go yourselves in the park on Sunday. Bring your favourite bar and lines!

Thanks everyone for the support, hope we get a good day and turnout. If you've never been formally taught, please come down and learn some new skills which are easy to learn and may save your life or the lives of others.

If you know of people who could use this skill set, let them know about Sunday.

Thanks all, see you there!



kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
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19 Jan 2006 11:53pm
i couldn't wait so i did it yesterday and today and don't intend on doing it tomorrow
gls
gls
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gls gls
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20 Jan 2006 12:41am
I like the initiative Darren. Will certainly try and be there.
Graeme
FreeFerty
FreeFerty
NSW
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20 Jan 2006 9:55am
Re winding lines in in the water the other day I self rescued and wound in excess lines around my board, kept things nice and neat and stopped my board from drifting away. Was much easier to wrap around the big board than the skinny bar. I guess in surf it wouldn't be so good to have the board near the kite ready to rip it to shreds though. Anyone think of other downsides to this one?
airhead
airhead
WA
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20 Jan 2006 12:45pm
damn! will be over at rotto for the week.

can we have a repeat lesson at kitestock?
Coral Sea
Coral Sea
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20 Jan 2006 6:59pm
For those like myself, stuck in some windless part of Australia outside the south west mecca and unable to attend, a written description (no matter how vaugely worded)would still be warmly received. Darren? Anyone?

why couldn't we have a parallel discussion here on the forum even while the lucky few attend the in person demo - the best bits could be cropped into a topic for the FAQ, along with peoples opinions on the demo day.

hearing people's opinions on the various ways to deal with particular situations (surf, broken lines, flatwater, offshore wind or light wind, etc) could be quite interesting.

Andy
gls
gls
WA
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gls gls
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20 Jan 2006 8:49pm
Darren, the WAKSA committee guys have been having a discussion about this today and we all thought it was a great idea and something that WAKSA should help support somehow. Its totally inline with promoting safety and something everyone would probably like to come and see. We thought we could provide some sausages and drinks (including a beer for you) to help out. Not quite sure about the BBQ yet as VB/Jess have the WAKSA one at home and they're away at the Nationals. But perhaps we can use one of the BBQ's down there at Brighton.
Regards
Graeme
WAKSA Secretary
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
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20 Jan 2006 9:14pm
Hey Greame,

Sounds great, any support would be well accepted. I think the Brighton BBQ's would be OK. It sounds like we should have a bit of a crew down there so we are getting really jazzed about it.

To all those that plan on coming, please bring your bar and lines with you. We will probably pair people up and work together at practicing the line rolling technique.

Really looking forward to it and hopefully making a difference.

Good winds to all, see you Sunday at Brighton.

If it works out well, we may do another one at Kitestock!

thominator
thominator
WA
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20 Jan 2006 9:24pm
All you instructors should be looking at your training schedule because one of the first things that I was taught when I was a newby was to rescue myself as there was very little people around that kited. So stop thinking about your pockets and start training the newbs so if they do get into trouble they do know how to self rescue themself and keep the sport out of the spotlight and best of all keeping it SAFE for everybody to enjoy!

That's my two cents worth.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
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20 Jan 2006 9:25pm
would it involve doing it out deap or is it just on the beach
waveslave
waveslave
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20 Jan 2006 9:37pm
Kitecrazzzy,

They won't be doing stuff in deep water.
They will be practising self-rescue on the grass....but it won't be easy !

Try winding up a kite line while holding a beer in one hand and eating a sausage with the other.
That's skill, man.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
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20 Jan 2006 9:56pm
Self-Rescue in 5 easy steps.

1. Flag the kite.
2. Wind-up leash line, grab kite.
3. Fold kite, hold wingtip, make a sail.
4. Sail the whole freakin' mess towards the shore. (Smile)
5. Collapse on the beach.


Handy Tip by slave
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
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20 Jan 2006 10:13pm
i got the kite bit down but what do you attach the board to
Ian Grose
Ian Grose
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21 Jan 2006 3:26am
Thominator,

I guess someone has to be negative.

If you read what Darren is offering it is FREE. He is concerned about safety and unlike the rest of us is getting of his arse and doing something, when he could be taking bookings for kite lessons.

Not everyone has had the advantage of 5 or 6 hours of lessons which cover all safety aspects of kiting.

So let's get behind what Darren is trying to achieve, which is a safer sport for us all.

Cheers,

Ian.
Bo
Bo
WA
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Bo Bo
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21 Jan 2006 7:08am
quote:
Originally posted by Ian Grose
I guess someone has to be negative.

Further to Ian's comments, all proper (IKO) lessons *do* include comprehensive self rescue instruction, but let's be real, naturally most kiters avoid self rescue situations after their lessons and therefore rarely, if ever, practice the procedure(s). It's a bit like First Aid, rustiness sets in, making refresher sessions pretty much mandatory.

Thominator, are you running any free refresher sessions for the benefit of fellow kiters? Onya for that, dude...

Bo
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
21 Jan 2006 9:38am
quote:
Originally posted by kitecrazzzy

i got the kite bit down but what do you attach the board to



You clamp the board between your teeth.
gruezi
gruezi
WA
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21 Jan 2006 7:24pm
What a greate act of generousity Darren. I would love to come, for a refresh but have prior engagements.........

poor relative
poor relative
WA
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21 Jan 2006 7:33pm
Would be great to have stuff like this in Kitestock.

Few instructors sharing handy free tips about safety, technique etc etc ...wonderful.
Sorry didn't make it today had a suprise amount of stuff to do...
Shan
Shan
WA
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22 Jan 2006 10:34am
What a fantastic idea!
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
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22 Jan 2006 4:48pm
Hey All,

Thanks to the crew that made the effort to come on down to Brighton today to learn some new self rescue methods and enjoy a beautiful day in the sun. Many thanks also go to Greame and Alex of WAKSA for supplying a few drinks as well as bangers and bread rolls for the bar-B.

Must also thank my instructors Ed and Paul for donating their time and efforts to help out. Final thanks to Ian Young for coming down and contributing to the day with some Flysurfer/foil self rescue techniques.

On the whole, I think it was a positive thing and would be happy to do the same again at Kitestock for those that couldn't make it today. Cheers everyone for making safety a priority in your kiting.

Respect
qfmike737
qfmike737
QLD
398 posts
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22 Jan 2006 11:24pm
damn i would have gone to that if i could have!

just another thing i've seen, which should be also addressed. Teaching people who are trying to rescue someone else! I've seen blunders that have been made worst! Normally it's by people who dont know anything about kiting but then i've seen some kiters causing more havoc trying to resque someone else. Has anyone else seen this happen?
gruezi
gruezi
WA
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22 Jan 2006 11:42pm
Look forward to doing version II at Kitestock.....brilliant!

Good nuking conditions for flying today
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