Help! My leash keeps coming off the board

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Blast
Blast
WA
81 posts
WA, 81 posts
20 Feb 2005 2:46pm
Maybe someone can help me: I have a (very nice looking) Stonker board (137 cm). I have enjoyed riding the board, but have had a recurring problem with attaching the leash to the board (there is nothing on the board for this purpose).

The guy at the shop who sold me the board attached the leash to a small strap that is affixed to the board using one of the fin screws. Unfortunately, the screw is not strong enough and has been ripped out of the fin twice, resulting in the loss of the fin as well :-(.

What can you recommend? Surely there must a safe way to attach a leash to this board.

JP

Unfortunately there is only one screw per fin...
addicted
addicted
WA
42 posts
WA, 42 posts
20 Feb 2005 4:03pm
Couldn't you just tie a small length of rope around footstrap and tie leash to that.
I am only learning and don't use a leash , too many bad reports although i did drag a leash/rope just so if the board did drift I could grab the rope that trailed behind.
Great when I have to sort kite out or walk in shallow water.
I connected it through a hole where a third fin would gowith a knot on the bottom
Nigel
jan
jan
WA
1119 posts
jan jan
WA, 1119 posts
20 Feb 2005 6:04pm
dont use a board leash, they are completely unneeded and you are asking for stiches in the head

learn how to body drag back to your board
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
20 Feb 2005 6:32pm
Hey Blast,

Jan is right, there is no SAFE way to attach a leash to the board. Learn to body drag upwind properly which you should have done in the 2nd lesson.

I have had too many friends with stitches in the face, back and back of the head. And all that blood in the water does nothing for detering sharks.

Ditch the leash!

Best winds and Peace,

Darren Marshall
IKO Examiner
Australian Kiteboarding school
PsYLoR
PsYLoR
QLD
927 posts
QLD, 927 posts
20 Feb 2005 8:39pm
Its a sign! Dont use a leash!
However if you do feel the need to use one do not attach it to the footstap. It needs to be attached as close to the edge of the board as possible, eg Via one of the fin screws.
This minimises the risk of the board becoming an anchor in the water. If you crash and the board submerges the kite is going to pull you one way and where ever the board leash is attached to you (eg your leg or harness) will be pulled the other way.
Spend an hour learning to body drag upwind, its very easy to do & you'll never need to use a leash again.
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
20 Feb 2005 11:44pm
Sorry, to say this...but get with the program........body drag...no matter how much it hurts.
hosko
hosko
WA
393 posts
WA, 393 posts
21 Feb 2005 9:22am
it's true...
coming from a beginner like myself you don't need one.
i was apprehensive about not using one and losing my board but when ever i wipe out i just locate the board do a body drag out and back and i'm back to it within a minute. and its good practise!

In reference to your actual question though i am unsure, my board has the leash attachment point in the same place as yours (ie. the fin screw)
captainkaos
captainkaos
WA
247 posts
WA, 247 posts
21 Feb 2005 7:20pm
My advice is learn to deal with no leash.if you insist on having one this may help.I have repaired boards where the leash plugs have been ripped completely from the board.To rectify the problem i have fitted a strap to a fin hole as you say and had no further problems.(yet).One thing that could have happened is because he has put the strap on, the amount of thread actually screwing into the fin has been reduced.You need as much thread in there as you can get.Buy another fin,and try a screw 5mm longer.

Make sure the screw is not to long and comes throug the board

Easiest solution is to F#~` it off.(the leash.)

See ya

Karl
HungLong
HungLong
WA
859 posts
WA, 859 posts
21 Feb 2005 7:33pm
Blast, I think you being given some good advice... Learn to body drag...
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
6525 posts
QLD, 6525 posts
22 Feb 2005 12:49am
Just cos no-one's said it yet the golden rule is:

LEASH = HELMET

otherwise or maybe just if you're lucky.

The only time I can see the need for a leash is in an onshore wind with a strong offshore tidal flow, ie at a river mouth. Any other time you can get back to your board easily with a little practice.
jan
jan
WA
1119 posts
jan jan
WA, 1119 posts
21 Feb 2005 11:51pm
helmets only protect heads... ive seen quite a few boards poleaxed into some poor dudes ribs

(and before you say impact vests, what about legs, or arms, or shoulders... where do you stop? full plate mail?)
jan
jan
WA
1119 posts
jan jan
WA, 1119 posts
21 Feb 2005 11:53pm
oh and before i get crapped on for it... id recommend a helmet, impact vest and mouth guard to anyone, but i (foolishly?) dont use any of those items
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
22 Feb 2005 8:16am
And don't forget eye protection, fully-caged helmet, body armour, booties, gloves, and full steamer wetsuit (in the height of summer).
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
22 Feb 2005 12:34pm
You guys shouldn't laugh,

When teaching in Oahu Hawaii, I saw a guy come to the beach with a full BMX style helmet, water jacket Oakleys, an impact/floatation vest, gloves, full length wetty (in Hawaii????), booties, a seat harness and .... drum roll please ...... a pair of shin guards like soccer players wear! I didn't ask him about groin protection or mouth guard, but being as kitted up as he was, I wouldn't have been a bit surprised.

To say he stood out on the beach amongst the regular kiters is a massive understatement, compared with most peoples tan, boardies and harness.

It was quite funny, but at least he was safe. When he got spanked, he could laugh it off.

Come to think of it, he had a board leash also, in which case he should have been wearing chest armour as well.

niall barrett
niall barrett
WA
248 posts
WA, 248 posts
22 Feb 2005 12:55pm
option 1: Carry 'super glue' in your harness pocket

it works really well to close wet head wounds [from the board in the back of your head] as Methacrylate is cured by H2O. You can be back out kiting in minutes ready for another bloody board encounter!

Alternatively....ditch the leash ...you could lose an eye...Superglue doesn't work on eyes....Ben Severne told me he saw it happen to a learner body dragging with board leashed behind him.
steve
steve
WA
108 posts
WA, 108 posts
22 Feb 2005 3:54pm
NO LEASH!

My instructor was very clear about not using a leash and learning to body drag and recover the board before you do anything else (thanks, Ian ) so I was already less tempted to use one.

Still, I had a few incidents where it took a long time recovering my board and I was cursing and thinking about getting a leash: 2x Lucky Bay where crashing the kite put me far downwind and I would have had to walk back and drag out to get it, but both times a kiter recovered it and I had it waiting for me on the walk back and once Scarbs where I couldn't see the board in the big swell and after 7-8 long ups and downs thinking "When do you actually give up here?", "Is it gonna be washed in?","Where would that be?" and "I'm getting hungry, what's for dinner?" suddenly I was directly headed for my board. Which was the moment I thought "YES. Bodydragging works. No leash"

I think it helped me to read the strong opinions in previous posts to that topic to stick to the principles. Making progess this summer (still lose board almost every session) I also realised that the situations where I loose my board are situations where I wouldn't want to have anything attached that comes after me.

Hope this helps.
S.
Blast
Blast
WA
81 posts
WA, 81 posts
23 Feb 2005 9:05pm
Thanks, everyone for their good advice, I get the message. Also thanks, Steve, at least someone is admitting that not having a leash can be tricky and one does not always recover their board (big wipeout, heavy seas, etc.). Also it is not always possible to bodydrag upwind (lines tangled or kite disabled).('')

As far as I am concerned, I cannot afford to lose my board (even if it's 'once in a while'), so there is still some good reason to have a leash, at least at my level (beginner/intermediate).('')

In the meantime, I'll start working on bodydragging upwind...

Blast ('')
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