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silviu
silviu
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663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
5 Dec 2006 5:48pm
For the first time in my kitesurfing career, I did not follow my old safety rules:
1. I did not double check the line connections – unfortunately the left front line was looped trough the left bridles!!!
2. Accepted to be launched by someone I did not know
3. I’ve been using the regular Cabrinha QR, not the one I normally use.
4. I threw the lines under the kite, “forgetting” the bridles, than connecting them without checking

The kite -16 m Crossbow, the wind – 18 knots, gusting 22 – 24, the beach – Middle Brighton (Melbourne)
The kite was launched on the right side of the wind window, the tangled line was on the left side of the kite, practically “overpowering” the kite; as soon as the kite was launched, it speed up, trough the power zone, lifted me 3 – 4 m in the air, than speed up downwards, on the left side of the wind window, crashing on the sand. All this lesss than 5 – 6 seconds.
I did not have the time to reach the QR, I ended crashing hard, my left shoulder first on the sand.

The results were “catastrophic”: my left arm got dislocated from my shoulder joint, lost blood supply in the arm.
Thanks to the dedicated ambulance crew (I only remember a name on the tag: Jessica, God bless her), I reached the Alfred Hospital in less than 20 minutes, where my arm was shifted back in the joint, and the blood supply to my arm was recovered.

What is to be learned from this?
It doesn’t matter how eager we are to get on the water, safety first, do not override the good old rules.
When you launch someone else, give a quick look to the setting before letting the kite go, better delay a launch than be sorry.
And the most important rule: DO NOT CONNECT LINES UNDER THE KITE. Unless you can see ALL THE LENGTH of the lines and the bridles, do not suppose that they are free of tangles.

I will be another 2 – 3 weeks out of action, as the joint is recovering, I wish all of you good time on the water and no accidents.
dan OK?
dan OK?
VIC
253 posts
VIC, 253 posts
5 Dec 2006 6:01pm
You're a manace Silviu!

Good on you for being honest enough to post.

Lesson re-learned

If in doubt with your lines while setting up, start again!

Done it heaps of times

Get well, Be safe,
Dan.
havox
havox
WA
148 posts
WA, 148 posts
5 Dec 2006 4:07pm
yeh dude bugger awsome that you only have 3 weeks recovery! or did they suggest longer but the wind will b to good to resist :)
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
5 Dec 2006 7:12pm
Thanks for the tip...I unrolled my kite the other day and notice the backline going through the bridle and was wondering what would happen if it was rigged like that accidentally...guess that answers my question...
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
5 Dec 2006 7:31pm
Sad to hear your hurt again saliva. Hope for a speedy recovery.
I found out the best thing to avoid your accident, i bought a kite with no bridles. Cool eh??

Seriously tho speedy recovery mate..
slyfox
slyfox
VIC
324 posts
VIC, 324 posts
5 Dec 2006 11:00pm
get well soon mate. alex told me that you had a big stack and the ambos had to cart you off, i'm glad to hear you're not going to be off the water for too long. using people you don't know to launch is always a gamble. i asked a very experienced kiter at brighton beach to launch me a few weeks ago, he was to self absorbed to follow correct procedure and after picking up my kite threw it into the air. as it was the first time i'd launched a bow kite i'd stuffed the bridle connections and it was hairy.

karma got him back when he self launched and his quick release activated. sucker. i grabbed his kite for him though he didn't really deserve the help.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
5 Dec 2006 9:09pm
dont hook in until you are sure the lines are right although those who have their "100% depower bows" dont seem to understand the need for 1 line safety.
back on topic-hope you heal quick and with out recurring problems.
doppelganger
doppelganger
VIC
337 posts
VIC, 337 posts
6 Dec 2006 12:03am
Hope your back on the show soon Silviu. Had a simalar thing happen down at Rosebud not long ago with the Switchblade. Another kiter who I didn't know was launching me, just before he let go, I yelled,"hold it, something doesn't look right", to which he replied, "she'll be right mate" and let it go. A bridle line was around one of the inflate valves, scared the ****e out of me. I was in a rush and so was the other kiter, not a good combination
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
5 Dec 2006 10:29pm
Get well soon buddy.

Good on ya to give us the story, nice to still have you around.

Yea, it can be a dangerous thing this kite flying.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
5 Dec 2006 11:43pm
to help you recuperate silviu, we from the gold coast are sending you a set of tiddlywinks, enjoy!
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
6 Dec 2006 12:30am
Speedy Recovery Silviu. It may be a silly question, but why were you launching a 16m Crossbow in wind averaging 18kn gusting to 24 knots??? Most riders where I ride will rig a 12m or 9m Crossbow in wind that strong.

I was riding a 7m and powered beautifully in only slightly stronger conditions today at Pinnas (20-25 knots).

In strong conditions, I always wear the factory leash and launch with one finger on the trigger of the Airush trigger QR, just in case of an emergency. Never had to activate it on launch but I'm assured by the feel of the little red lever if the kite takes off with too much power.

We teach all our students when rigging " a good carpenter measured twice and cuts once" This applies to kiting, check lines twice and launch once.

Anyways, recover quick and good winds,

ottisgrey
ottisgrey
WA
38 posts
WA, 38 posts
6 Dec 2006 1:40am
Yeah,

Nobody lets go or pulls it.

It's just a matter of time before you get splattered.

If you kite, sooner or later you're going to f-up, and when you do, you won't be able to act....

Nobody lets go or pulls it.

That's just how it is
ottis

PS. many career carpenters, even cabinet makers are missing a few fingers...

Talk is just talk, the facts are stacked up like cord-wood,the list of kite advice is in reality just a tragicomedy,

A fairy tail, nobody lets go,and we all f-up it's just a matter of time...

silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
6 Dec 2006 8:03am
quote:
Originally posted by Kitehard

Speedy Recovery Silviu. It may be a silly question, but why were you launching a 16m Crossbow in wind averaging 18kn gusting to 24 knots??? Most riders where I ride will rig a 12m or 9m Crossbow in wind that strong.




I always have to be one size up, as I am not the average weight (95 Kg). A 12m in that wind will get me going mostly beam reach, but very little upwind. It may be a matter of technique, but I like to be powered, and, if everithing is rigged corectly, there should not be any problem. Base 18 knots, is middrange for a 16 m X-bow, in my case.

With the QR, as I said before, the think happened so quick, and may be I started to be too self compliant, that when I "bite the sand" my hands were still on the bar. And by the way, the leash is always on.
Lesson learned!!
Today I started using the left hand a little bit, is panifull but looks good!

Thanks everybuddy for the posts and good wishes.
I will see you on the water soon.

Silviu
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
6 Dec 2006 9:06am
Hi Silviu,

Sorry to hear about your accident - you sure have been in the wars lately.

Get well soon...

PS: I always say (and do) launch unhooked - you only need to get splatted once to know why...
pearl
pearl
NSW
984 posts
NSW, 984 posts
6 Dec 2006 9:51am
A friend had a similar launch on a switchblade II, thankfully without the injury. Not sure whether it's same on the crossbow, but there is a larks head knot attatching bridle to canopy which came undone. Worth checking with your flying lines. "**** happens!" they say, but its better to learn off other peoples injuries. Thanks Silviu, speedy recovery
bigmark100
bigmark100
NSW
584 posts
NSW, 584 posts
6 Dec 2006 11:33am
Great to hear you are okay and a quick recovery.
I've been getting quite confident with my TD of late and have been doing less checks of my lines and kite.
Thanks for reminding me to never get slack.
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
6 Dec 2006 10:27am
Sympathies to you silviu...a fully powered-up bow aint that safe.

Lesson learned for many crew.
Again when teaching newbies, teach then to pull the bridles out and position them, check the pulleys and all bridle lines for thin points. Older Bow kites bridle lines are just about buggered and should be relpaced before this season kicks in. Check the canopy for any knicks.
Kitehards motto is check the lines twice and launch once. When launching someones kite you are the closest to the thing and it is your job to check the kite before launching.
Safe kiting everyone!
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
6 Dec 2006 10:30am
oops i lied, i had my lines wrong yesterday (one steering line is shorter) and launched hooked in only to realise what i had done-one of those problems that you cant tell by sight but not a drama to deal with yet lesson learnt.
and to add to the previous comments, you usually don't pull the QR in time especially if you don't think there's a problem (eg a snagged line)
we all get a beating every now and then

silviu dont worry about criticisms from other forum members, chances are they will find they get into a similar situation one day
silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
6 Dec 2006 10:10pm
One think I forgot, and it is not right.
Thanks to all on the beach, who helped me after the event, the guy whom call the ambulance, think he said he was a surgeon, and all the others, Steff and Dean whom packed up my stuff, than drove the car to my place, than call until late to find out how I feel.
It is so comforting to know, we are such a close knit comunity, it does not matter what we ride or what we believe, when one of us is in need we know to stand up and help.
Thanks again guys and thanks all whom posted in this thread.
You right Galah, it looks like I've been trough the "green stars wars" lately
g-dog
g-dog
WA
145 posts
WA, 145 posts
6 Dec 2006 9:26pm
quote:
Originally posted by silviu


It is so comforting to know, we are such a close knit comunity, it does not matter what we ride or what we believe, when one of us is in need we know to stand up and help.


From my own experience I'll second that. Three regulars on this forum - robbo, VB and milehigh got me packed up and off to hospital when I had my dislocation/break last season. Just take it easy until it's fully healed and your shoulder will thank you.
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