How to be a better frontside wavekiter.

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waveslave
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12 Oct 2012 8:04pm



Imagine the rider is gripping a kite-bar in his righthand. ^^^

See how he's looking at the lip.

He actually can see the lip cause he's facing the wave.

Where he's looking is where he's going to end up ...

Smacking that lip.

lol.
EB
EB
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12 Oct 2012 10:57pm
why do you care?
Aseela
Aseela
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12 Oct 2012 9:19pm
Is it possible to be that close to the breaking wave on a kite? I'm always way out in front but that must be just me. The video of Robbie Naish at Hossegor(
) on kite forum shows him close to the bottom of the wave going backside. Is it that easy?
VB MAN
VB MAN
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12 Oct 2012 9:34pm
Was doing just that today slaveboy, but with all sensiblilty, why would he be holding the bar in his right hand in that situation when his next move would be a hard left ?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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12 Oct 2012 11:28pm
waveslave said...




Imagine the rider (me) is gripping a rigid, long bar in his right hand. ^^^

See how he's looking at the lip and thinking about bars, and bending over and visions of backside vs frontside well up in his turgid imagination mmmm


Where he's looking is where he's going to end up coming at in a big moment of white frothy glory
mmmm
Smacking that lip.

lol.



So I guess that is you in the pic and that is why you can use it as an instructional for others?

hamburglar
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13 Oct 2012 8:39am
can't be , trolls are little scrawny critters with tiny horns and brains and the only time they look up is from under a bridge not at the top lip


taxi
taxi
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13 Oct 2012 7:52am
Looks like a pic of Tom Curren from years back...















BennyB12
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13 Oct 2012 7:56am
Go slave...

Lol..
waveslave
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13 Oct 2012 8:48am
Mark _australia said...



So I guess that is you in the pic and that is why you can use it as an instructional for others?



Are you trying to be funny, Markie ? ^^^

lol.

This post is my second piece of my 'tutorial series'.

Did you miss the first ?

I use pics of pro-surfers as examples of high performance waveriding.

I mean, why wouldn't you ?

waveslave
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13 Oct 2012 8:56am
VB MAN said...
why would he be holding the bar in his right hand in that situation when his next move would be a hard left ?


(Going Right), righthand on the bar as you wave-climb, ^^^
then quickly switch to lefthand on the bar for the pressure-downstroke ...
at the critical point of top-turning.

That's how I do it, anyway.
lol.

stamp
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13 Oct 2012 12:06pm
slave if you like to simply be dragged along the face by the kite (as you seem to enjoy doing) you should already be turning the kite down at this point, with the bar in your front hand.
KiteDevil
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13 Oct 2012 11:35pm
Firstly I love you waveslave, you rock the potato, over n over!

Bar in left hand...
You've held out, stalled till way late,
You've dropped... This in itself is something most avoid, too busy powered up..

You're fingering the wave on the bottom turn..
Total faith in your kite to float back as you undershoot it.

Smack that lip,
Drop again and reach up with your left hand,
Yank on that line as the kite falls backwards,
Fade way out,
Kite loops and rises,
Come back for more...
Claim it.

No one sees it, doesn't matter... That's kitesurfing doode!

Yeeoowwww! [:)

Why you'd do that with the kite in your right hand I don't know??
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14 Oct 2012 8:42am
Seriously slave, you should turn these instructionals into little vids like what Ben Wilson does. You know the ones where he sits in front of his laptop and goes through each move in slow mo? That would be great :)
eppo
eppo
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14 Oct 2012 10:15am
Waves lave vidow tutorials. I like to see that!
Luther
Luther
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14 Oct 2012 7:02pm
hey dudes keep it friendly, i for one enjoy waves insight to riding, keeps me pondering my own ride....just asking to be polite
tightlines
tightlines
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14 Oct 2012 8:02pm
Yeah I enjoy waveslaves posts, even if I don't agree with all he says it gets you thinking
Onya wavey, hey why don't you come up to the Wedge Wave comp?
waveslave
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14 Oct 2012 8:08pm
No can do. ^^^

Sorry.

WAKSA has black-banned me from all comps.
waveslave
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14 Oct 2012 8:21pm
stamp said...

you should already be turning the kite down at this point, with the bar in your front hand.



You see how there are no rules, Stamp. ^^^

lol.
SugarQube
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14 Oct 2012 8:48pm
waveslave said...
No can do. ^^^

Sorry.

WAKSA has black-banned me from all comps.


I dont believe you Slave, dont make your self more important than you are, even though you have behaved like an aSS towards WAKSA through out the years, they have it in their hearts to forgive you your sinns, if you come into the fold and repent.

I will be on the beach at Wedge cheering you on in hysterical yelps, if you lay down any of the moves you are propagating on this and previous threads.

Or will one legged VB man, on his Hammer and Airrush lift 2007 show you up...and make you wish you were still on a windsurfer with those home made sails and masts made from flagpoles you used to use at Brighton
waveslave
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14 Oct 2012 9:08pm
SugarQube said...
waveslave said...
No can do. ^^^

Sorry.

WAKSA has black-banned me from all comps.


even though you have behaved like an aSS towards WAKSA through out the years, they have it in their hearts to forgive you your sinns, if you come into the fold and repent.



WAKSA is God. ^^^

lol.

I find it hard to accept that God may be willing to forgive me for my many sins.

Mark _australia
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14 Oct 2012 9:48pm
waveslave said...
stamp said...

you should already be turning the kite down at this point, with the bar in your front hand.



You see how there are no rules, Stamp. ^^^

lol.


Still looks like about 6m plus of "cutback" along the wave

Surfer or windsurfer would be 1/3 that distance in the top turn.

Maybe you are right Mr 'slave - it is all about how you have your hand on it. The bar, that is.


sir ROWDY
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15 Oct 2012 3:47pm
Slave you made me think a bit about frontside, backside, the positives/ negatives and the general aesthetics involved in doing so. And I came to a mini-realisation;
Although surfers prefer to ride front-side and most people enjoy seeing frontside surfing more than backside, I think skating is possibly the opposite. Backside is harder on rails and in bowl and the holy grail of bowl and handrail tricks is the backside smith or backside nose-blunt... and they are the pictures people want to see... Makes me wonder, now with the obvious direction of surfing following skating, will surfing backside airs and punts be the new "in-thing"????

There ya go, more rabble added to the rabble-fest.

BS smith in ramp.


BS smith in street.


BS nose-blunt in ramp.


nose-blunt in street.


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16 Oct 2012 8:59am
Im with Rowdy.. I actually prefer to watch someone who goes off on their backhand. Its generally more difficult to do, therefore I appreciate more and when someone manages to do it with style, thats just sweet.

And even for you old folk out there. Think back to Occy at Bells, Jbay or Sunset.. how awesome was that to watch!
SugarQube
SugarQube
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16 Oct 2012 10:14am
default said...
Im with Rowdy.. I actually prefer to watch someone who goes off on their backhand. Its generally more difficult to do, therefore I appreciate more and when someone manages to do it with style, thats just sweet.

And even for you old folk out there. Think back to Occy at Bells, Jbay or Sunset.. how awesome was that to watch!



Ahh I get it, its like strapless, its harder to do and you appreciate it more. Even though it looks crap and you keep on falling off
rangamatang
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16 Oct 2012 11:23am
Morning Mr Slave, There has been no mention of the wind direction in this senario. If it is pure cross or cross off and Dude is downwinding I can accept the right hand bar hold. If the wind is on or cross on & Dude is downwinding, Dude would have to left hand the bar. Dude's body position def lends itself to being unhooked. Something to aspire to eh ?
LouD
LouD
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16 Oct 2012 1:30pm
sir ROWDY said...
Slave you made me think a bit about frontside, backside, the positives/ negatives and the general aesthetics involved in doing so. And I came to a mini-realisation;
Although surfers prefer to ride front-side and most people enjoy seeing frontside surfing more than backside, I think skating is possibly the opposite. Backside is harder on rails and in bowl and the holy grail of bowl and handrail tricks is the backside smith or backside nose-blunt... and they are the pictures people want to see... Makes me wonder, now with the obvious direction of surfing following skating, will surfing backside airs and punts be the new "in-thing"????

There ya go, more rabble added to the rabble-fest.

BS smith in ramp.


BS smith in street.


BS nose-blunt in ramp.


nose-blunt in street.





Dont know much about skateboarding but that first shot with the moon in the background is awesome.
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WA
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16 Oct 2012 2:12pm
SugarQube said...
default said...
Im with Rowdy.. I actually prefer to watch someone who goes off on their backhand. Its generally more difficult to do, therefore I appreciate more and when someone manages to do it with style, thats just sweet.

And even for you old folk out there. Think back to Occy at Bells, Jbay or Sunset.. how awesome was that to watch!



Ahh I get it, its like strapless, its harder to do and you appreciate it more. Even though it looks crap and you keep on falling off


Ha, yeah kinda right, for the first part anyways.. not what I was trying to convey but I guess I do appreciate strapless more and it does look better. Cant remember the last time I watched a strapped kite-surfing vid.. but strapped vs unstrapped vs falling off - whatevs ;)
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