How to unwrap your Peter Lynn kite from a tree...

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sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
3 Jan 2007 8:25pm
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...is my 4 week old Peter Lynn Venom II adorning a 12M tree near Mandurah in WA.

I had finally reached Kiteboarding Nirvana on New Years Eve (the ability to go upwind) at a secret remote location. As I was coming down from the pinnacle of kiting ecstasy (ie the wind dropped & I was heading downwind again to shore) and while meditating deeply on my having discovered "the meaning of life, death, the universe, and kiting" - it happened.

I could see I was close to the shore and lifted my Venom-II over the first tree. The next tree looked far enough away from the shore to miss. I didnt notice the smallest of branches - a mere twig it was, a toothpick lurching out with all its wooden might over the water at my kite - and it snagged a line.

The front of the kite stopped dead and the rest neatly wrapped itself around the 12 meter tree. I thought it was a write-off.

I decided not to try to bring it down until the wind had dropped. It took 24 hours for the SW wind to drop enough to peel it off. I had to use a 6 metre extending ladder, a 6 metre pole, and one spare brother. I was right to wait. It had just 3 holes - $20 to fix (thanks Neil). I got out light.

Moral: dont try to get your kite out of a tree while the wind is blowing. Wait. If the SW wind had only once changed direction back to the SE the kite would have just fallen off the tree by itself. So dont panic.
CJW
CJW
NSW
1731 posts
CJW CJW
NSW, 1731 posts
3 Jan 2007 10:53pm
I guess the more important moral is don't kite near trees?
Kite -Kid
Kite -Kid
WA
84 posts
WA, 84 posts
3 Jan 2007 9:50pm
its a peter lynn kite!!

thats where it should be..it shouldnt b in the sky thats for shor!!
Samb0
Samb0
270 posts
270 posts
3 Jan 2007 11:38pm
What size Venom is it? I would like to have a fly of one. Good that you rescued it with little damage. I think PL kites are great. I have a couple of Bombas and I love to fly them...
Macca Wollongong
Macca Wollongong
NSW
295 posts
NSW, 295 posts
4 Jan 2007 1:51am
i once had a peter lynne kite go between my front and rear lines.

thankfully quick thinking got us sepereated with out pulling a safty!
bigmark100
bigmark100
NSW
584 posts
NSW, 584 posts
4 Jan 2007 12:38pm
sorry to say this but kiting that close to trees , down wind of you when you can only just go up wind is nuts.
you mentioned in another post you never had lessons, and clearly this is something you are missing.
no kiting tutorial dvd would tell you not to kite that close to trees cause i think they would have expected you to have had lessons and your kite instructor to have told you something along these lines.
i realise you are too far along now to get lessons, but seriously my friend, think about things that are down wind of you. they should be as far as possible. not just skimming by your kite. one big gust and it would have been you in the tree. and dont fool yourself. gusts happen.
i learnt on peter lynns too - and had one nearly bad accident, and saw a mate lofted on one. he hurt himself quite badly. i know they are super stable, but things can turn nasty very quickly.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
4 Jan 2007 11:02am
found this from sandgroper (does that mean 'head-in-the-sand) elsewhere.
nb: the big bold color in the quote is his/her emphasis - ha ha ha
quote:
Originally posted by sandgroper
Oh and BTW, I'm from a waterskiing background and I never had a lesson (just watched videos & listened carefully to good advice from others).


Of course you dont need lessons .
Who needs lessons .
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Tip : if you did "listen carefully to GOOD advice" you would get lessons.
DERRRR
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318 posts
4 Jan 2007 11:27am
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puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
4 Jan 2007 6:25pm
quote:
Originally posted by bigmark100
i realise you are too far along now to get lessons,


C'mon bigmark
The rest of your post was great advice but being upwind for the first time is no where near "too far along to get lessons"
Not even vaguely close to anywhere at all near it.
Especially when this particular newby (to keep it polite) has so little appreciation and/or understanding of kiting that all he learnt from what could have been a major disaster was that next time he ends up in a tree he wont panic; he will just leave it there till it blows down by itself. WOT THE !
Too late for lessons - I dont think so.
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
4 Jan 2007 8:16pm
quote:
Originally posted by puppetonastring

quote:
Originally posted by bigmark100
i realise you are too far along now to get lessons,


Especially when this particular newby (to keep it polite) has so little appreciation and/or understanding of kiting that all he learnt from what could have been a major disaster was that next time he ends up in a tree he wont panic; he will just leave it there till it blows down by itself. WOT THE !
Too late for lessons - I dont think so.



Major disaster... oh come on now, gimme a break!

I already said the wind was TOO LIGHT!!! Thats how I ended up too close to the tree. Whaddaya take me for - a complete moron? (Dont answer that). Credit me with some intelligence will ya

Ok, so how about one of you ultra serious smarty pants give me your lesson on how to stay away from trees? Come on. Lemme have it! Teach me!
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
4 Jan 2007 8:24pm
kite in an easterly at Scarborough and look out 4 rotto, should b able to stay a safe distance away from trees for a good amount of time
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
4 Jan 2007 8:26pm
kite in an easterly at Scarborough and look out 4 rotto, should b able to stay a safe distance away from trees for a good amount of time
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
4 Jan 2007 8:37pm
hey there sandgroper
My apology is on the other post.
As for the wind being too light so no disaster likely WRONG
From memory (Ian Young could verify this) the guy who was killed a couple of years back in Safety Bay was standing on the beach having come in because the wind had died.
Twas the calm before the storm.
He was hit with the gust from hell coming from nothing while standing with his kite parked 'safely' overhead.
They explain this sorta stuff in lesson one at any reputable school.

As for your intelligence - thats a taken. Your original story was thoughtful, entertaining & very well written
9 an a 1/2 outta 10 - from an ex-english teacher.
(who now loves spellin stuff wrong )
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
4 Jan 2007 8:43pm
quote:
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Originally posted by puppetonastring
GOOD LAD - way to go.
Sorry sandgroper - Ive been taken the p!ss out of you all over the place today but nothing personal. Its just that you showed a classic 2 posts which highlight the need for all to learn properly.
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I can see now that not having lessons is not something I should boast about. Its reckless for me to carry on like that. You're quite right. I've forgotten that the average person wont have my background.
It reminds me of when I nearly killed 2 friends in sperate incidents: 1 who tried to keep up with me in a car, the other who tried to keep up with me on a motorcycle. Both came to grief trying to imitate things I was already very experienced at. The latter had mild concussion and 2000km still to ride.

Since then I've always discouraged any kind of recklessness in motor vehicles. Obvioulsy I need to consider kiting in that league too.

Thanks for bringing me "back down to the ground".
Josh K
Josh K
QLD
318 posts
QLD, 318 posts
4 Jan 2007 9:53pm
i never had a lesson
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
4 Jan 2007 9:25pm
quote:
Originally posted by Josh K

i never had a lesson



Yeah, but you wouldnt recommend to newbies, particularly naive ones, not to get lessons, would you ?

I think thats the point, and its a fair one.
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
4 Jan 2007 9:44pm
quote:
Originally posted by Macca Wollongong

i once had a peter lynne kite go between my front and rear lines.

thankfully quick thinking got us sepereated with out pulling a safty!



Well done, both of you (sincerely). There's always that tendency to want to "do the right thing" and pull safety but which is not always necessary. It takes a cool head from both parties to get out of a situation like that.

Cant emphasise enough the need not to panic, but think your way out instead. If you have to pull safety, pull it. But you dont always have to.
bigmark100
bigmark100
NSW
584 posts
NSW, 584 posts
5 Jan 2007 1:26pm
in a perfect world you are correct puppetonastring. but i seriously doubt anyone who is on the water, riding, and just getting upwind is going to pay up for lessons....

sandgroper - still dont fool yourself.
a world champion kiter has died because of not being able to release from being caught between 2 kites.
read this.
http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1243

you are a fool if you think you will be able to have time to think in some situations.
clearly you dont have enough respect for your equipment.
im pretty sure you will experience a lesson sometime - hopefully it wont be a painful one.

kite as far upwind from anything hard as you can, and if its 100m away from you then its probably too close.



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