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waveslave
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7 Jul 2005 2:14pm
Just when I thought it was safe to re-enter the forum.....it's back!
The Jaws of BEST are thrashing again.
The latest introduction of the new super-kite, the 2006/2010 Nemesis Nonsense will make the Hellfish hype pale in comparison.

More blah blah blah about a non-existing kite that's only a concept floating around in some designers headspace.
Yeah, they have an idea, I saw the CAD drawing, the seed has been sown (sewn).
An oak tree grows from an acorn.

You could never accuse BEST of being the quiet achiever.
More like that blabber-mouth Foghorn-Leghorn chicken in the cartoon.
Ahhhh, that's all folks.
TimothyLeary
TimothyLeary
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142 posts
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7 Jul 2005 2:56pm
quote:
Originally posted by waveslave

Just when I thought it was safe to re-enter the forum.....it's back!
The Jaws of BEST are thrashing again.
The latest introduction of the new super-kite, the 2006/2010 Nemesis Nonsense will make the Hellfish hype pale in comparison.

More blah blah blah about a non-existing kite that's only a concept floating around in some designers headspace.
Yeah, they have an idea, I saw the CAD drawing, the seed has been planted.
An oak tree grows from an acorn.

You could never accuse BEST of being the quiet achiever.
More like that blabber-mouth Foghorn-Leghorn chicken in the cartoon.
Ahhhh, that's all folks.



I know,just drags the whole Forum down !

But the truth is,the Crossbow is blowing minds ! The Hellfish isn't even out yet and its obsolete !

They are really desperate over at Hellfish headquarters,so they quickly came up with the sketch of something the exact same shape as the Crossbow,and then dreamt up the next big hype. Bladderless!!!!

Oh yeah?? We'll see in about a year,IF they even make anything resembling it. It will probably just have major leak problems !!
pfreeland
pfreeland
WA
2 posts
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7 Jul 2005 3:09pm
Personally, I thought BEST would have learnt from the whole Hellfish drama. Seems like they have, in fact, got worse.

Showing what they have in development is fine, it's great in fact, but then having their staff, or at least people with a vested interest in seeing BEST sell, post provocative comments on forums, is just stupid.

It's clear they have a "crossbow" style kite now in development, which is cool, and the bladerless thing would be great, but I think the BEST hype will make me sick.
cliffor123
cliffor123
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7 Jul 2005 3:13pm
also the hype about the crossbow is coming from kiters, whereas the hype about the best sh1t is coming from salesmen
Ryland
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7 Jul 2005 3:23pm
well said cliffor.
airhead
airhead
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7 Jul 2005 3:33pm
quote:
Originally posted by Ryland

well said cliffor.



i second that!

feel like vomiting every time i see a HL or KP post these days...
HungLong
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859 posts
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7 Jul 2005 3:53pm
dont read them then...

"just drags the whole Forum down !", "feel like vomiting every time i see a HL or KP post these days...", "hype about the crossbow is coming from kiters, whereas the hype about the best sh1t is coming from salesmen", "really desperate over at Hellfish headquarters"

Please...

Your all a bunch of gosipy old women... We all jump on here to see whats what, check out the gossip and low down...

Yeah there are those who are open about their affiliation with a brand... and then there are those who are not... We all know who you are !

Just remember one point. If you are affiliated with a brand, be it sponsored to ride or in my case, sale's, customer support and running a demo center. If you make a reply to someones request for info or you make a review on a product. You are representing that brand...

regards browneee
poor relative
poor relative
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7 Jul 2005 3:58pm
I represent Breasts, big bouncy beautiful ones
anyone care to demo...???
waveslave
waveslave
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7 Jul 2005 3:58pm
Have BEST really thought this Nemesis nonsense out?

If the leading edge is bladderless, a punture will require patching of the LE sock.
But the sock is cuben fibre cloth which is exclusive to BEST.
So a repairer will need to patch with something else that's airtight...rubber, plastic, not dacron?

And there are no struts, so the kite will be less rigid and tend to fold in the gusts.
And what about the floating ability that struts provide?
The kite will sink from the trailing edge.

I guess all these shortcomings will be sorted during the prototype process.
TimothyLeary
TimothyLeary
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142 posts
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7 Jul 2005 5:10pm
quote:
Originally posted by waveslave

Have BEST really thought this Nemesis nonsense out?

If the leading edge is bladderless, a punture will require patching of the LE sock.
But the sock is cuben fibre cloth which is exclusive to BEST.
So a repairer will need to patch with something else that's airtight...rubber, plastic, not dacron?

And there are no struts, so the kite will be less rigid and tend to fold in the gusts.
And what about the floating ability that struts provide?
The kite will sink from the trailing edge.

I guess all these shortcomings will be sorted during the prototype process.



Of course they haven't thought it out !

All they have is a cad drawing copied from the Crossbow !

It's not even in development! Just a drawing,and an idea for being bladderless. What the benefit of that is ,anyones guess !
HungLong
HungLong
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859 posts
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7 Jul 2005 5:19pm
the more you carry on Tim, the more you sound like you have an invested interest within the industry...

threatend are we ?. I'm curious ?, as you attack and respond with passion !, yet I think your new to the sport/industry ?

regards browneee
Bo
Bo
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Bo Bo
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7 Jul 2005 5:25pm
quote:
Originally posted by cliffor123

also the hype about the crossbow is coming from kiters, whereas the hype about the best sh1t is coming from salesmen


Ah....more Bestial Angst from the team riders of various brands?

I'm still quite new to this but have to say that this sport *has* to be the most brand-concious sport there is. In a very effiminate way!? Nothing is ever taken on merit, its all about brand and fashion, appearance and surface gloss.

I don't agree at all with the kiters vs salesmen claim, in fact its pure projection. The entire Best team are fanatical kiters. Shannon is not a kiter? Alex not a kiter? Go check out the video section on the site. Steve and Brownee are not kiters? Sheat! Kiting IS their life! One doesn't have to win the Nationals or feature in FireWA to be a kiter.

Bo
TimothyLeary
TimothyLeary
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142 posts
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7 Jul 2005 5:27pm
quote:
Originally posted by HungLong

the more you carry on Tim, the more you sound like you have an invested interest within the industry...

threatend are we ?. I'm curious ?, as you attack and respond with passion !, yet I think your new to the sport/industry ?

regards browneee



Why do you feel the need to respond to my every post ??

I am not in the industry at all.

I looked at the Hellfish to see if it was the wonder kite that you all claimed. What did I find? An interesting experiment,but a poor kite !
I find the advertising and Forum pimping from Best to be offensive. They set themselves up with all their outrageous claims ,now they must reap the seeds they have sown !!
poor relative
poor relative
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7 Jul 2005 5:43pm
quote:
this sport *has* to be the most brand-concious sport there is. In a very effiminate way!?


Tim bleary wears best knickers and naish garters....
Hung like a horse has slingshot high heels
i just walk funny
windangoesoff
windangoesoff
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280 posts
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7 Jul 2005 8:14pm
i feel like vomiting at the jealousy towards best. As hung long said ... at least they are being honest with their affiliatiton. If there are others associated with other brands .. i would like to hear their opinions on all aspects of kiting (whether it is about their own kites or not). These people are in the industry and surely know alot more than myself and the many others new to this great sport called kitesurfing.
waveslave
waveslave
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7 Jul 2005 6:20pm
Hey Bo,
'slave is no team rider.
'slave is a soul-kiter.
I'm not into corporate. Just waves.
HungLong
HungLong
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859 posts
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7 Jul 2005 6:32pm
Hey slave, was that you and your wife I was talking to on the Sat arvo of the Mal comp at Avalon ?

regards browneee
waveslave
waveslave
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7 Jul 2005 6:40pm
Hey Chine,
That's a roger.
gruezi
gruezi
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7 Jul 2005 9:17pm
Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...ya'll are just kiters....more man love. Y'all just need wind and waves, always.
hey_te89
hey_te89
QLD
79 posts
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8 Jul 2005 6:43pm
half the **** in this site is about complaining about Best... Even if they are wat you claim, stop freaken repeating yourself! Talk about something else that's actually interesting to a noobie like me......
TimothyLeary
TimothyLeary
WA
142 posts
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8 Jul 2005 5:15pm
Actually there are very few posts about Best.

You must be looking for them.

Or you are really Brownie trying a desperate ploy as a last resort to stop the momentum of public opinion of how ridiculas Best and their outrageous claims are !
HungLong
HungLong
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859 posts
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8 Jul 2005 5:31pm
Tim, you realy are going to far with this stuff mate... Now you are accusing other readers of being me... Get a grip mate, no-one is out to get you or the forum... Ask Laurie if you wish, he will tell you that I have only one user account... Like I said in another post Tim, I have nothing to hide, what do you ?... You seem to be adopting "MoFo's" persona from "kiteforum"...

regards browneee
TimothyLeary
TimothyLeary
WA
142 posts
WA, 142 posts
8 Jul 2005 6:00pm
quote:
Originally posted by HungLong

Tim, you realy are going to far with this stuff mate... Now you are accusing other readers of being me... Get a grip mate, no-one is out to get you or the forum... Ask Laurie if you wish, he will tell you that I have only one user account... Like I said in another post Tim, I have nothing to hide, what do you ?... You seem to be adopting "MoFo's" persona from "kiteforum"...

regards browneee



Heaven forbid !

Or should that be Fo bid !
lurch
lurch
WA
312 posts
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8 Jul 2005 7:08pm
Heres an idea, for all you kite fashion police out there. Why not bring every *ucken kite you've got and spend a week in Shark Bay when the wind blows 30-40 kts for a week and then we'll see whose kite holds up. You want flat water, you want coral lined points and death beachies. you want 50 km down winders, you want a place where you could set up the worlds biggest slider park, then bring the *uckers up. This place is the ultimate proving ground and I'm sick to death of reading your crap, so bring ém up and lets see who wins. I reckon everyone will be soooo stoked by the level of kiting and the comparison of ideas between every brand that by the end of the week we'll be hugging each other in a beer soaked environment and swearing to do it again the next year.
Why not turn it into a grassroots comp.
I leave my thoughts with you.
Lurch.
Ps. Monkey Mia's on in the morning, cars packed and its gonna be 20kts east YAY.
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