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daggy
daggy
WA
528 posts
WA, 528 posts
12 Jan 2012 5:29pm
I can boost huge, but wanna go bigger!!
What's the deal with looping the kite multiple times while jumping,? Saw it on a vid on seabreeze and want to try it. But it looks like the kind of thing you don't want to get wrong!!
My kites a slingshot Rally which is classed as a pivot turning kite. ie turns almost on its own axis without really producing any more power. So would this be the right or wrong kind of kite to try this move on??
(I've gotten kite loops wrong before and I dont bounce so well !)
Any one who's tried this move before got any tips???????????
yeehaa
yeehaa
QLD
123 posts
QLD, 123 posts
12 Jan 2012 7:44pm
Wanna go big?

Buy a 9M Ozone Edge and send it in plus 25kts. Not sure about the loop thingy
BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
12 Jan 2012 8:11pm
just pull down hard on one side of the bar at the apex of your jump... trial and error will sort out the rest... an impact vest will help with the error bit...
moons
moons
WA
349 posts
WA, 349 posts
12 Jan 2012 6:23pm
Nice avatar Benny,
That would probably do the trick
youngbull
youngbull
QLD
826 posts
QLD, 826 posts
12 Jan 2012 8:38pm
moons said...

Nice avatar Benny,
That would probably do the trick


Agree

(Benny - what was said was only comedy, it was fun - no hard feelings )
Gfresh
Gfresh
QLD
37 posts
QLD, 37 posts
12 Jan 2012 9:04pm
What do you classify as huge?
mitch88
mitch88
NSW
271 posts
NSW, 271 posts
12 Jan 2012 11:06pm
its not all the kite but comes down to the rider aswell. i had rallys all last year and just went over to a north rebel. had a 10m rebel out in 25 to 30 knots the other day and i was boosting way higher than i would on my rally and it had better hang time.

Just my 2 cents worth
Evan Chia
Evan Chia
QLD
41 posts
QLD, 41 posts
13 Jan 2012 9:14am
Looping the kite will not make you go bigger, it'll just keep you up there longer - but only if you are looping the kite above you. In order to loop the kite above you, you need to take off the water with the kite as close to the wind as possible (not downwind) and then keep the kite directly above you (not to the side). You also need to jump big enough that you swing under the kite so the kite is a little bit behind you when you start looping it (otherwise you'll just head downwind, not keep your float).

I may be wrong, but with normal wind conditions you could probably only complete 2 loops before landing even with a small kite. I would assume that to do multiple loops (e.g. Jesse Richman's 30 second jump) you would need to jump during a crazy gust of wind with some sort of updraft. Either that or you've jumped kite high which we all dream of but very few get there (even though it feels like it!)

BTW Don't try it with an Edge. Those things jump big and hang long, but they turn too slow for anything more than a downloop on landing. The Rally should be fine.
campatrol
campatrol
VIC
76 posts
VIC, 76 posts
13 Jan 2012 10:51am
daggy said...

I can boost huge, but wanna go bigger!!
What's the deal with looping the kite multiple times while jumping,? Saw it on a vid on seabreeze and want to try it. But it looks like the kind of thing you don't want to get wrong!!
My kites a slingshot Rally which is classed as a pivot turning kite. ie turns almost on its own axis without really producing any more power. So would this be the right or wrong kind of kite to try this move on??
(I've gotten kite loops wrong before and I dont bounce so well !)
Any one who's tried this move before got any tips???????????


Any Vids?
Keen to have a gander
campatrol
campatrol
VIC
76 posts
VIC, 76 posts
13 Jan 2012 10:52am
Evan Chia said...

Either that or you've jumped kite high which we all dream of but very few get there (even though it feels like it!)


What does that mean?
cheers cam
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
13 Jan 2012 6:03pm
^^^^^^ it means jumping to the height of the kite ie: 20 -25m high
It often feels like we are going that high but when you truly compare most of the time we are not.

Evan is right looping the kite will not make you go any higher at all. THe best way to get max height is to practice your pop ( as in wakestyle pop ) then combine this and the timing with your boost ie: load up begin sending kite pop hard boost etc...... it is all in the timing.

Smaller kites boost higher but have less hang time.

It also depends on what style of kite you are using ...C kites require a bit of pendulum effect ie : really send the kite
. bow/ hybrids can be boosted maily just by sheeting in and sending the kite to just 12 or 1

a combination of both methods and the pop timing will see you going larger than before.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
13 Jan 2012 6:57pm
jump off a mountain on a really thermally day .You will go really huge ,loop like there is no tomorrow(watch some snowkite vids for some ideas) ,there is a good chance that you will die but your epitaph will read "he/she died doing what he /she loved " (it's what i'm hoping will be my epitaph, even if it is a result of a good sesh with my wife)
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
13 Jan 2012 4:06pm
daggy said...

I can boost huge, but wanna go bigger!!



Want Bigness ? ...
then jump off the pitching lip of a steep sizey wave.
Do kiters still do this ?
lol.

Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
13 Jan 2012 7:12pm
waveslave said...

daggy said...

I can boost huge, but wanna go bigger!!



Want Bigness ? ...
then jump off the pitching lip of a steep sizey wave.
Do kiters still do this ?
lol.




I,m with you on this one slave.to answer your question slave .It seems that it is a once popular pursuit since long ababndoned by the majority for whatever strange reason .For me and a few others there is something in nailing that perfectly lined up peak for a decent jump (at the expennse of nailinig a perfectly timed toe side smashing of lip) There are still a few old salts that still go for the big jumps off that lovely peaking lip) .it looks particularly good when they land on the face of the next wave and then nail a lovely down the line wave ride
BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
13 Jan 2012 7:10pm
Gfresh said...

What do you classify as huge?


anything over 12 inches...
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
NSW, 527 posts
13 Jan 2012 8:21pm
This is the only reason i ride strapped in a nor easter
Check feathering lip....
Check landing zone...
Yeeew......

waveslave said...

daggy said...

I can boost huge, but wanna go bigger!!



Want Bigness ? ...
then jump off the pitching lip of a steep sizey wave.
Do kiters still do this ?
lol.




James
James
WA
549 posts
WA, 549 posts
13 Jan 2012 5:43pm
yeehaa said...

Wanna go big?

Buy a 9M Ozone Edge and send it in plus 25kts. Not sure about the loop thingy


70ish kg, have a 9 & 7 mtr Edge, get much bigger jumps on the 7 in that wind range, maybe I have to work on my technique on the 9, cheers, J
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
13 Jan 2012 9:22pm
James said...

yeehaa said...

Wanna go big?

Buy a 9M Ozone Edge and send it in plus 25kts. Not sure about the loop thingy


70ish kg, have a 9 & 7 mtr Edge, get much bigger jumps on the 7 in that wind range, maybe I have to work on my technique on the 9, cheers, J


blatant pimping.booo hiss (anyone pushing the brand barrow deserves a thorough spanking on this one .Any kite that size should do the job in strong conditions for jockey), its a technique ting
Gfresh
Gfresh
QLD
37 posts
QLD, 37 posts
13 Jan 2012 10:13pm
BennyB12 said...

Gfresh said...

What do you classify as huge?


anything over 12 inches...


That's decent
fver
fver
WA
453 posts
WA, 453 posts
14 Jan 2012 1:04am
Mr float said...
It seems that it is a once popular pursuit since long ababndoned by the majority for whatever strange reason .For me and a few others there is something in nailing that perfectly lined up peak for a decent jump (at the expennse of nailinig a perfectly timed toe side smashing of lip) There are still a few old salts that still go for the big jumps off that lovely peaking lip)


You know when the timing is right: the satisfaction is as huge as the jump!!!

Fred
yeehaa
yeehaa
QLD
123 posts
QLD, 123 posts
14 Jan 2012 8:35am
Mr float said...

James said...

yeehaa said...

Wanna go big?

Buy a 9M Ozone Edge and send it in plus 25kts. Not sure about the loop thingy


70ish kg, have a 9 & 7 mtr Edge, get much bigger jumps on the 7 in that wind range, maybe I have to work on my technique on the 9, cheers, J


blatant pimping.booo hiss (anyone pushing the brand barrow deserves a thorough spanking on this one .Any kite that size should do the job in strong conditions for jockey), its a technique ting


Nah dude I don't ride Ozone I can't afford them!! I have good technique for boosting high and my kites boost just fine, I test rode one the other day and they do go just that bit higher then other brands. I wasn't promoting Ozone, the guy was just asking how to go bigger and the edge is an obvious answer.
James
James
WA
549 posts
WA, 549 posts
14 Jan 2012 12:37pm
yeehaa said...

Mr float said...

James said...

yeehaa said...

Wanna go big?

Buy a 9M Ozone Edge and send it in plus 25kts. Not sure about the loop thingy


70ish kg, have a 9 & 7 mtr Edge, get much bigger jumps on the 7 in that wind range, maybe I have to work on my technique on the 9, cheers, J


blatant pimping.booo hiss (anyone pushing the brand barrow deserves a thorough spanking on this one .Any kite that size should do the job in strong conditions for jockey), its a technique ting


Nah dude I don't ride Ozone I can't afford them!! I have good technique for boosting high and my kites boost just fine, I test rode one the other day and they do go just that bit higher then other brands. I wasn't promoting Ozone, the guy was just asking how to go bigger and the edge is an obvious answer.


Ouch !, first time I've been accused of pimping anything in my 8 years of membership here. Has someone knocked off your wheels again Lachie ? . Stating the boosting abilities of the Edge is not pimping, I thought it was common knowledge. I used to think your posts were really cool, be advised, your coolness rating is now under review. You could swing it in your favour by organising to have a carton of 5seeds dropped off at my door Having been wrongfully accused , I now reserve the right to credit myself with a pimp, I promise to be really subtle.

Yeehah , you can afford Ozone tarps mate, you just have to know where and when to buy.


Cya and good winds, J





daggy
daggy
WA
528 posts
WA, 528 posts
14 Jan 2012 4:11pm
lotta guys fly them Ozones at my spot, I often look down and see one passing by...
kyteryder
kyteryder
NSW
692 posts
NSW, 692 posts
20 Jan 2012 12:36am
Im jumping as high as i can, but the trampoline might bust soon

gesper
gesper
NSW
518 posts
NSW, 518 posts
20 Jan 2012 12:47am
My trampoline has already broken. I had to buy another one
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