Ideal Kite for beginner that wants to boost

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Geeza
Geeza
WA
90 posts
WA, 90 posts
19 Oct 2005 9:27am
Ive got a mate who's just getting into kitesurfing. He wants a kite that's stable, easy to relauch that will shorten the learning curve, but will still allow him to boost massive airs when the time comes..

The boosting massive air is a essential criteria for him but so is ease of use and stability. I myself have only really ever ridden airush flows, i think they are awesome kites, but we are wanting opinions from others who have ridden other brands.

thanks in advance
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
19 Oct 2005 9:33am
Cabrinha cross bow would be my recommendation
Beautiful kite, great safety, big boost, easy depower wonderful machine, though some would disagree.
Windsurfing perth in Myaree have them.
freeflyfreak
freeflyfreak
WA
74 posts
WA, 74 posts
19 Oct 2005 10:19am
rhino 05 -06. much more user friendly than 04 models. 5th line relaunch. lots of depower. plenty of boost!
brooksy
brooksy
WA
498 posts
WA, 498 posts
19 Oct 2005 10:41am
Can I plug a kite I'm also selling 2nd hand? Spose it's better than a retailer plugging their particular line?
SS Diesel's are super stable, bloody easy to relaunch and no 5th line to mess around with. Boosting is good, but I'm not going to bull**, there are bigger booster's out there but with the downside of 5th line or being a new kid on the block (ie bows) and perhaps in need of a little refinement.
I know 5th lines are good, but if you get the same thing from 4??? And these kites are bomb proof.
But seriously, I loved my Diesel and I'm sure I learnt heaps quicker on it than I would have struggling with a higher aspect 4 line, that's more difficult to launch.
PaulG
PaulG
WA
92 posts
WA, 92 posts
19 Oct 2005 1:58pm
Airush Flows are great. 05 or 06 model. The Flow's shape was changed in 05.

I fly Lifts now but they are much harder to relaunch.

Crossbows are great in gusty conditions but I wouldn't pay $2000 for a kite.
richierich
richierich
NSW
226 posts
NSW, 226 posts
19 Oct 2005 4:22pm
See how the switchblades go...should be the perfect beginner package you won't grow out of.
Damo
Damo
WA
641 posts
WA, 641 posts
19 Oct 2005 3:50pm
Gaastra Vision 17 second boost says it all
its fast, its stable enough for a first kite, its relaunch friendly, it Fn rocks, and it boosts bigger than any other kite ever has before (that i know of anyway)

yes i am biased but 17 seconds is 17 seconds so if you want to boost then get a gaastra vision
dalestanton
dalestanton
WA
272 posts
WA, 272 posts
19 Oct 2005 4:40pm
Geeza, tell your mate to have a fly/or seriously look atthe cabrinha crossbow , one of the safest kites out there, the fastest relaunch capability.

Also she'll handle all the gusts, give you wicked hangtime and you cover a more wind ranges with the one kite than your standard c-shape kite.
They suit beginner to advanced.

thanks
dale
BrisKites
BrisKites
QLD
1293 posts
QLD, 1293 posts
19 Oct 2005 6:58pm
Check out the Globerider Sonic. I had a student on this kite today for his first crack at a board and he was getting 70m runs, just control the power with the bar, when you fall off simply let the bar go. No pulleys on the bar, simple set up. Five minutes later I was out getting great airs.

Jason
www.briskites.com.au/
paulio
paulio
QLD
890 posts
QLD, 890 posts
19 Oct 2005 7:47pm
yeah jason, but lofting aint jumping
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
19 Oct 2005 10:42pm
Hi Geeza,

Big boosting does not come down to the kite, it comes down to skill, timing and experience. Your friend should start on a kite that they can handle comfortably and learn to ride well first.

There are hundreds of people who were riding the Naish X2 when it first came out and very few could boost worth a damn. Many were out boosted on lesser kites. Even kites like the Airush Lift Pro of 03' didn't automatically make you jump huge, you had to be capable of extracting that level of performance with experience and skill.

My advice (for what it's worth) is to get a moderate aspect kite if they are still learning, and learn to ride it, practicing for a season, then get a lesson specifically on jumping big, for an hour with a skilled professional instructor who can really boost, and maybe after that get a high performance kite.

Technology will not replace ability.

Good winds
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
20 Oct 2005 2:15am
Sound measured advice from kitehard - yet again.
My 2c worth.
I reckon everyone should encourage all newbies to buy 2nd hand.
As I see it everyone is better off that way - its win win win all round.
Newby Wins - because the cost of the initial set up is much lower. He/she loses nothing really as there is no way a first season kiter will reap any major benefit from all the twitchy little advances the latest kites offer. Even if a newbie does buy new its almost certain that the kite chosen 1st will not be the kite he/she wants next season anyway. Newbies - go get a good 2nd hand kite, learn to fly it & decide what you really want/need when you know, & can take advantage of, what all the different styles & brands mean to you.
Kiters Win - because if all newbies were buying 2nd hand demand would keep the value of used kites higher. At the moment its totally ridiculous how much you have to be prepared to lose to upgrade from perfectly good 1, 2 or 3 season old kites to the latest & greatest. From talk on the beach I reckon up to 2/3 of all kiters would love to upgrade this year to all the exciting 06 gear but they wont because they simply cant justify the huge changeover cost.
Shops/Manufacturers Win - because if used prices were higher they could trade used gear more effectively. But mainly they would benefit from the increased total turnover & demand for new kites that would result if more kiters were more willing to trade up to new rather than sit on what they've got cause its just too costly to upgrade.
AND everyone wins if turnover is higher because manufacturers selling more kites means they can spend more making sure 07 season kites are advanced enough to have all the experienced guys wanting to upgrade again next year.
Win Win Win Win
Given the huge % increase in nos. each year this cycle could work for many years. But it will only work if used prices can be maintained at a relatively realistic level.
At the moment they most certainly are NOT.
Geeza
Geeza
WA
90 posts
WA, 90 posts
20 Oct 2005 8:49am
To late he's already bought a 10 m gaastra Stealth, apparently they boost big.

Buts thanks for all your suggestions. I do agree with kitehard boosting big is about good techniqiue.
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