I was not there so I don't know what really happened, BUT because someone possibly didn't know you were there it is their fault for not catching your kite? I take it you signalled by patting your head you alerted them to help you out? As I said I wasn't there so don't really know.

Before being critical of the person in question and calling them names, ask yourself how many times have you actually dropped everything you were doing on the spot to help someone land, or how many times you actually finish what you are doing and then help them - I'm willing to bet 99% of the time its the latter. Often its easier to finish something than to have to restart again, for example, when you are walking up your lines, and you see someone come in to land there kite, do you stop where you are, or do you finish walking up to the top and then help them?

On the day in question, everyone I saw was looking overpowered when they launched and landed so it was hardly evident when people where landing more overpowered than before. I saw a decent rider get overpowered, get lofted onto land and go straight out again at a point I thought he would be coming in again. It was gusty and the only thing consistent about the day was that fact that it was gusty and going over 30 most of the day. I saw a girl on a Cab go out when I thought she was too overpowered and would land again and she headed out and stayed out. I'm not condoning the behavior, I'm just saying the day in question was not a good day and to call out a person would be tough. For all I know it could have been me.

...and incidentally, the whistling on that day wouldn't help. People couldn't hear me 10m away when I tried to call them.

I 100% agree with Hyzakite.
You always can put on hold what you are doing when you are on the beach (except if your kite is already in the air of course) while it is not true for the guy willing to land his kite.
It should be always the case and I have to say that I faced similar situations as the one described. That really is a shame.
Why is the golf etiquette so well respected and the kitesurf etiquette not that much ???

Geez N8,

Purely for safety sake, of course. I don't want to drag anyones' name into this, I just wanna be safe on my next kite trip to QLD.

What kite brand do we need to be flying to get assisted landings in QLD?

Always ready to assist,
AzzA

Won't mention.
He knows who he is. Part man part woman.

I Agree with JB. I am always prepared to self launch & land my kite even if there are others on the beach. All kiters should know how to self launch and land their kites - I've heard of people not going out or staying out until someone else turns up at the beach so they can get an assisted launch or land.

It is nice to be asked if you need a launch though, and an assisted land is appreciated when it is really windy. But there's no way I'm missing out on a kite because no one else is around. I have enough trouble missing out with work & family!!!

Can't comment on Hyza's situation, but if he made it clear the guy should have helped - maybe he didn't realise how overpowered you were and was finishing up attaching lines or something...???

****, wish I was at Altona now

Maybe he just doesn't like you !

user said...

Maybe he just doesn't like you !

Always arrive at the beach with ATTITUDE!

that's the attitude of " I can cope with these conditions and safely"

If the conditions mean you cannot self land or launch then have a think about whether you can cope out on the water in traffic etc.

Take Responsibility for yourself and not be forced to rely on others.

having someone assist you is a privilege not an obligation.

and use this simple guide to coping with conditions.
"If you can tap your would be assister with your kite to get their attention, then you can cope."

regards
Biggus Dickus

Nill illigitimi carborundum

azza said...

Geez N8,

Purely for safety sake, of course. I don't want to drag anyones' name into this, I just wanna be safe on my next kite trip to QLD.

What kite brand do we need to be flying to get assisted landings in QLD?

Always ready to assist,
AzzA

Peter Lynn

RAL INN said...

Always arrive at the beach with ATTITUDE!

that's the attitude of " I can cope with these conditions and safely"

If the conditions mean you cannot self land or launch then have a think about whether you can cope out on the water in traffic etc.

Take Responsibility for yourself and not be forced to rely on others.

having someone assist you is a privilege not an obligation.

and use this simple guide to coping with conditions.
"If you can tap your would be assister with your kite to get their attention, then you can cope."

regards
Biggus Dickus

Nill illigitimi carborundum

Next time I will try the kite tap method.

I beleive that it IS an obligation to assist fellow kiters. As was demonstrated at Altona yesrerday, no ignoramus' to be seen.

Stkilda and Altona, aren't probably beaches I wouldn't expect to much from. Busy people, city people, etc. i agree with what your saying, but if I get down the beach after work, the last thing I want to do is talk to someone while I struggle to get out for a half hour sess after a **** day, I would not kite at Altona or Stkilda if you payed me, way to much ego. I will always help out someone in trouble. Anyone that can't launch themselve is a retard. Landing in 30knt sucks, at the best of times, scetchy. I guess it's a sign of the times, but selfsufficiency is the name of the game, sad but true.

I agree!!!!!!!

RAL INN said...



regards
Biggus Dickus

Nill illigitimi carborundum

Dad

It's me Brian

Mum's been missing you

pclarky said...

Stkilda and Altona, aren't probably beaches I wouldn't expect to much from. Busy people, city people, etc. i agree with what your saying, but if I get down the beach after work, the last thing I want to do is talk to someone while I struggle to get out for a half hour sess after a **** day, I would not kite at Altona or Stkilda if you payed me, way to much ego. I will always help out someone in trouble. Anyone that can't launch themselve is a retard. Landing in 30knt sucks, at the best of times, scetchy. I guess it's a sign of the times, but selfsufficiency is the name of the game, sad but true.

Excellent -one less kiter at Altona.

The only time we have attitude issues at Altona is when the wind direction contains easterly and the kiters from Brighton & St Kilda come over.

The rest of the time it is kited by the best group of kiters you could want to meet.

I catch more than my fair share of kites at Altona & believe that whats goes around comes around. All it would take is one kitemare that injures a passer by to have the sport critically looked at by local council.

Dont be a tool - catch the goddamn kite