Is my board too big??

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rescueme
rescueme
WA
79 posts
WA, 79 posts
22 Jan 2007 1:23am
I'm 6'2" 95 kg and an ex-wakeboarder. I bought a 12m Airush Flow (hybrid) and my instructor recommended me a 138cm Airush Switch. However at the shop I was convinced to get a 144cm. I have no problem at all getting up and going along on this however I feel like I have no weight in the water when it comes to trying to cut hard or deal with chop.

(Thinking about this, perhaps I need more backfoot - I am used to wakeboarding where even when cutting your weight is even between the feet)

I see a lot of people riding very short boards for their weight comparied to what I have. Is my board too big?
Hurley
Hurley
ACT
98 posts
ACT, 98 posts
22 Jan 2007 11:12am
Your board in my opinion is on the larger size - most boards people are riding aren't much bigger than 140. I'm about the same size (a little lighter) and probably would have gone for the 138 or even a 135 as these lengths will last you forever. I've found that people with a pretty strong boarding background progress very rapidly and the extra length doesn't help - so its almost always best to buy one board that you will use in the future.

Hope that helps

Cheers
Al
KiteSurfDirect
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
SA, 2898 posts
22 Jan 2007 11:02am
Your board is at the top end of size and you will have fun.

don't worry too much about length and focus on width.

boards are slowly going back in length, to being a little longer.
Before this new wave of high depower kites board length was getting shorter to facilitate holding an edge. this was great and fun but meant some compromise, and spray in face.
the new boards combined with high depower kites have brought back the fun of nice flowing carves, on flat water and waves, smoother ride over chop and better flex control.

Having just ridden a 125, 131, and 141 version of the same board(M8), I think it will be a long time before you will be noticing the difference.

144cm - 138cm = 60mm that's 30mm per end. About the height of a Postage stamp.

The main criteria for board size maybe the size of your car boot.
bondo
bondo
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
22 Jan 2007 11:40am
Technically, your board is only too big if you are often overpowered and getting pulled off your edge a lot. Length is also not the only factor to consider, board width and rocker line are also important. A 144 that is 42cm wide with wide tips and a very flat rocker will ride like a much bigger board than a 144 that is 38cm wide with more tapered tips and a deep rocker.
smegma
smegma
2 posts
2 posts
22 Jan 2007 11:51am
95KG is a fair chunk of man meat the bigger boards were designed for guys like you, holding an edge might have more to do with where your kite is ie fly it lower
enjoy the boad, there are some advantages to shorter boards but they are harder to get going in light winds and 12 metres not a big kite for you.
borrow a short board in lighter winds before you get too much buyers remorse
rescueme
rescueme
WA
79 posts
WA, 79 posts
22 Jan 2007 12:00pm
quote:
Originally posted by RAL INN
don't worry too much about length and focus on width.


Thats what the wife says, think she thinks if I concentrate on it I'll be able to improve it but I don't think its working...

Cheers for all the responses, buyers remorse not existant now! Kite lower is the g-o.
Andris
Andris
WA
102 posts
WA, 102 posts
22 Jan 2007 12:42pm
Although it might be possible to get away with one board and one kite there are advantages to have the whole range;

* short TT for overpowered flat water tricks
* larger TT for carving on waves with a shallow reef or heavy beach beach
* surfboard (with or without straps) for ultimate clean wave riding when u have enough clearnace for ur fins


c kites for flat water shear power boosting
c kites for "powered" wave kiting
bow kites for gusty s**t
bow kites for "surfing the wave" kiting

IMHO you just can't have enough toys.
congo abrezio
congo abrezio
NT
285 posts
NT, 285 posts
22 Jan 2007 2:33pm
144 is alright it u ride boots and ur a bit of a bigger lad.

boots will help u move it round. would probly suck in straps unless ur just lerning
jan
jan
WA
1119 posts
jan jan
WA, 1119 posts
22 Jan 2007 2:30pm
is it a newer switch?

some of the olders ones had a horrible edge
rescueme
rescueme
WA
79 posts
WA, 79 posts
22 Jan 2007 3:58pm
quote:
is it a newer switch?
some of the olders ones had a horrible edge

Its a 2007 switch, I have compared it to someone's older one (2006 I think) and the rail on the 2007 is *much* sharper.

I ride footstraps which do tend to come out, specially when I unintentionally launch when trying slide transitions

quote:
boots will help u move it round. would probly suck in straps unless ur just lerning

I have some wakeboard boots on my wakeboard (1998 Flux 142), but they are a two hand job to get on, I've got no idea how that would go with a kite, don't think I could do it. Maybe I could rig up some kind of heel strap for my straps?
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
22 Jan 2007 5:04pm
you have the perfect board for your weight and skill level.

small boards and big wind is **** anyway. Unless you have poor board skills and need to dump the power through using an inefficient board rather then having correct technique.

high winds generally means lots of chop, small boards suck in chop.


i myself am a one board person, for all wind strengths and all conditions (apart from waves). Why? I have lots of kites, which allows me to be perfectly powered on one board for all wind strengths. The other is that a board is very intimate, feel and familiriaty are critical. Having something that is predictable and reliable under my feet is important to me .
jan
jan
WA
1119 posts
jan jan
WA, 1119 posts
22 Jan 2007 5:39pm
the 07 switch has a much nicer rail, and the board seems to be around the right sorta size.

you should be pushing almost all of your weight on your backfoot to hold your edge, and rolling your weight forward slighty only when your trying to edge hard upwind
sc
sc
VIC
16 posts
sc sc
VIC, 16 posts
22 Jan 2007 8:06pm
I had similar troubles coming over to kiteing with a wakeboarders stance. Once i sorted out flying the kite properly i concentrated on pushing the front foot out and sorta squating a little on the back foot and and laying out on the harness hard, it made a hell of a diff to me. Riding CO2's on a 141 slingy (doyle)
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
SA, 2898 posts
24 Jan 2007 6:39pm
Good positive vibes.......to be put above Galah thread.
azza
azza
1338 posts
1338 posts
24 Jan 2007 8:43pm
quote:
Originally posted by rescueme


I ride footstraps which do tend to come out, specially when I unintentionally launch when trying slide transitions



This is something that I noticed with the Airush boards, I could never get the straps sorted on the demo's that I tried, the boards themselves are great but the standard pads and straps could be much better (IMHO). Get your screwdriver out and play with the footstraps, get the dang things to adjust down tight enough so as your feet do not rattle around.

You need tight fitting yet comfortable footing, especially on a big board. Big boards tend to slap the water harder and they will skip in the chop when you start to get overpowered, if your feet aren't secure you will lose your edge too easily and end up on your arse. A sharper rail is going to be a little less forgiving in the rough. It's not just a matter of applying more back foot, you also have to use the edge and the fins in unison. The way you ride a big board (when powered-overpowered) will vary along the board as the rocker and tail width varies. Just play around with a few speed runs when you have the room for wipe-outs.

The Airush Flow (and other SLE's like the Waroo etc) are particularly adaptable at being ridden powered or underpowered, something that doesn't just depend on wind strength, you will learn how to do both with practice. Your particular kite and board combination is going to give you a huge usable wind range.

Personally, given your wakeboarding history, your instructor was correct. The 138 would have been a more enduring choice. On the upside , something to consider for next season maybe, a two board quiver is good and the purchase of a 130-133 would see you set for just about everything short of the purist surfboard experience.

Just for the comparison, our weight is similar. I ride a 125, a 138, and a 167 without fins (for when it just isn't blowing hard enough yet). Kites are 9, 13, 17, and 20... yeah yeah, I need a garage sale.
rescueme
rescueme
WA
79 posts
WA, 79 posts
25 Jan 2007 1:00am
Great advice mate nice one.
Turns out my board wasn't big enought still in the crap wind we had here yesterday! Now I know how much is too little wind... that 167 sounds like it woulda been about right
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
SA, 2898 posts
26 Jan 2007 4:17pm
Good positive vibes.......to be put above Galah thread.
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