KITE SURFING BYRON SHIRE NSW

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pearl
pearl
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4 Dec 2008 4:29pm
This advertisement appears in this weeks Byron shire council news. It follows on from the interim ban. Feel free to make a submission to council. Please respect all minimum distances in the meantime.


"Council has resolved to prohibit recreational kite surfing at Main beach Byron Bay, between the Pass and the Byron Bay public swimming pool. Any person is entitled to make a submission with respect to the proposed prohibition. Written submissions should be addressed to the General Manager, Byron Shire council PO box 219 Mullumbimby 2482 and endorsed 'recreational kite surfing'.
SUBMISSIONS MUST BE RECEIVED BY 4.00PM 5 JANUARY 2009
enquiries: Nigel Greenup 0266849347
Submissions will be made in accordance with section 12 of the local govt. act including the substance of the objection and the identity of the objector."
Smedg
Smedg
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4 Dec 2008 7:50pm
What's your views on this Topic pearl? These beaches do get very, very busy sometimes. Have you written a submission? I'd hate to think kiting got allowed there then someone got hurt and the ban got worse than it is now? I don't actually kite there but am just down the road a bit a Cabarita and so am keen as most to see kiting enjoyed safely and accepted by authorities.
lotofwind
lotofwind
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4 Dec 2008 8:05pm
Kited there in a NE wind about 100m down from the pass boat ramp and had a ball.
Have only kited there once,never thought it would be much good,but is actually really good.
That part of the beach isnt crowded when the wind is 20kn onshore.Only a few people doing the fitness walk thing.

Fair enough not kiteing near the main beach and surf club,packed full of tourists,but thats just common sense.isnt it?????





Smedg
Smedg
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4 Dec 2008 9:54pm
lotsowind.. yeah. it should be common sense, but some people lack that trait. Yes, i got one person especially in mind. Hope all goes smooth and common sense prevails.. Is anyone out there writing letters?
pearl
pearl
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5 Dec 2008 8:39am
My view is there needs to be a no kiting zone that families can safely use. The ban results from legitimate complaints. A group of local kiters met during winter to formulate a submission for council. We would like to keep the pass open for kiting. It is a sand point with waves that can run for 1km. Enough said. Our resoluion from memory were
-no go area main beach to clarks
-small defined launch area down from pass
-All users to have AKSA or equivalent public liability insurance
-All riders to adhere to NSW waterways kiters regulations
-No lessons in this area, no flying kite on beach,
-Advanced kiting area only; must be able to go upwind, do not go out in light winds

While appreciating the need for a safe usage zone there are problems with the ban. The pass is a boat launching area. There is far more danger there from boats, surf boats and out of control mals; than kiters when the wind is up. It's hard to sign post every track to the beach re kiting bans &/or usage zones. Does the council have the right/jurisdiction to ban/police activities below the high tide mark? The viewing platform from the pass is an amazing place to watch kiting as you are at kite level with a view of the whole point. The local cafes say it's great for business on a windy day. The ban would see everyone launch at the wreck. This is a far more dangerous area with a carpark, barb wire fence and power lines downwind & probably more people on a narrower beach.
pm for any more info re submissions.
NSW, 4382 posts
5 Dec 2008 8:45am
Sent you a PM Pearl.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
loco4olas
loco4olas
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5 Dec 2008 11:02am
pearl said...

My view is there needs to be a no kiting zone that families can safely use. The ban results from legitimate complaints. A group of local kiters met during winter to formulate a submission for council. We would like to keep the pass open for kiting. It is a sand point with waves that can run for 1km. Enough said. Our resoluion from memory were
-no go area main beach to clarks
-small defined launch area down from pass
-All users to have AKSA or equivalent public liability insurance
-All riders to adhere to NSW waterways kiters regulations
-No lessons in this area, no flying kite on beach,
-Advanced kiting area only; must be able to go upwind, do not go out in light winds

While appreciating the need for a safe usage zone there are problems with the ban. The pass is a boat launching area. There is far more danger there from boats, surf boats and out of control mals; than kiters when the wind is up. It's hard to sign post every track to the beach re kiting bans &/or usage zones. Does the council have the right/jurisdiction to ban/police activities below the high tide mark? The viewing platform from the pass is an amazing place to watch kiting as you are at kite level with a view of the whole point. The local cafes say it's great for business on a windy day. The ban would see everyone launch at the wreck. This is a far more dangerous area with a carpark, barb wire fence and power lines downwind & probably more people on a narrower beach.
pm for any more info re submissions.


I have kited there a number of times while visiting family in the area-it's a GREAT place to kite in the right conditions.

Not a local, but I've been a regular 'visitor' to the area since the late 60's and have family in the area-Byron has obviously exploded in the number of beach users-it makes sense to have some limitations on the activity of kiters there on the beach-however, a total ban doesn't make sense and it is the thin edge of the wedge-I think the local kiters' suggested approach to the issue are sensible and worth supporting-policing will be the difficult issue-PARTICULARLY with regard to overseas kiters who visit Byron as part of the 'must see' backpacking route.

Good idea if we send away a submission based upon the points in Pearl's post.

Council should ban sharks-caused far more injuries in the Byron area than kiters ever will.....
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
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5 Dec 2008 12:05pm
loco4olas said...
Council should ban sharks-caused far more injuries in the Byron area than kiters ever will.....


You got that wrong, stock more sharks in the area to keep the swimmers and surfers out of the water, there fore less chances of incidences
pearl
pearl
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6 Dec 2008 9:47am
Have received quite a few pms, so will answer here (unfortunately am busy at work.) Your submissions would be welcome and helpful. You can reiterate any of my points; but I think submissions are more effective in your own words. I also think the fact that we use the beach when it is pretty horrible conditions, (the rip increases with the wind & bluebottles) and have performed kite based rescues is worthy of mention.
Is there a way of putting a template up with the submission and getting supporting signatures. This could be an effective quick way of gathering support for your local area if you face the same scenario.
loco4 you are right. The only people who will respect the ban are the locals who didn't cause it in the first place.
Hausey
Hausey
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6 Dec 2008 3:01pm
Unfortunately there might be a few people who possibly might still be pressuring council into trying to 'ban' kiting at Main Beach to 'The Pass'. We (kiters) as a group need to educate and inform the council and those ('fun police') who are out to discriminate against us - the minority.

We need to be consistent and agree on what we submit to council - and it might be worth catching up for another meeting before Xmas to go through what we need to do. It is really important that all of us who care about the sport and the location make a decent submission to the council.

We need to keep 'The Pass' open for kiting as it is a unique break! Main Beach is just another 'on-shore' beach and the kiters who are down in this area are the ones going close to the surf club and flags and are generally learners and tourist kiters who are causing the problems. Having A.S.(S) aka jackASs around showing off his kiting skills on the beach and giving lessons doesn't help - so first step would be to eradicate anyone giving lessons / and learners from Main Beach to 'The Pass".

I think it is important to all agree on a designated rigging and launching area. Once we are on the water it is probably OK to kite up and down as long as we stay well away from the clubbies flags (x metres) and keep a distance from people swimming (x metres).

Perhaps this designated rigging and launching area should be further down from the more frequently used beach area directly in front of The Pass as there is a wind shadow anyway. What about the suggestion of 100m either side of the rocky outcrop between Captain Cook lookout and The Pass is our designated rigging / launching / landing area? Any one who is good with putting an aerial image / Google earth shot with this area showing?

It is obvious that other activities at 'The Pass' are far more dangerous. Surfing - hundreds of riders of all levels causes frequent collisions with a real risk of serious injury. Motor boats coming in and out through packs of surfers and swimmers. SUP's, surf skis, windsurfers....... Where kitesurfing differs is that we have to launch and land our kites on the beach. If we can prove that we are organised to have a dedicated area for this, that this can be done safely, and that we are willing to implement the measures / points that 'pearl' has outlined and that we are responsible members of the community we should be allowed to enjoy ourselves not to the detriment of others.










Smedg
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6 Dec 2008 5:35pm
peal, hausey, all sounds worth while to me. I'll come to the meeting and encourage others to do the same. Agree on main points to include in our submissions and perhaps arrange some kind of ASs/ JackASa ban. maybe kiters known to the council liaise with the council and catch trouble making strong man/ men in the act. Can council confiscate gear? I've heard they have banned certain retail outlet vehicles from parking in certain parking lots in shires near me. It possibly all gets pretty tricky if it ever gets to the point of needing an authority to confiscate gear but in the mean time, we will have established a relationship with council demonstrating the majority of kiters are out to do the right thing by other beach users. Keep me informed.
vader
vader
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7 Dec 2008 9:03am
i had a kite up at the boat launch area at clarks about a month ago and i have to say that it was one of the best sessions ive had .it would be a shame if it was taken away.
i wasn`t shore if the ban was in place when i arrived there so i checked with the surf club and they gave me the thumbs up. it was a sunday and there was a few walkers and spectators about. common sense will hopfully prevail
good luck
pearl
pearl
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12 Dec 2008 9:01pm
Have formulated a 4 page submission for council. If any kiters would like to endorse the cause, let me know your email (you cam pm me) and I'll send you a copy of the submission.
cheers
Smedg
Smedg
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12 Dec 2008 11:38pm
pearl said...

Have formulated a 4 page submission for council. If any kiters would like to endorse the cause, let me know your email (you cam pm me) and I'll send you a copy of the submission.
cheers


Just read the submission. I think its the way to go. I think pearl has done a great job. Very well thought out. On ya Pearl. Lets get some other kiters endorsements.
GregS
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13 Dec 2008 10:54pm
NOW is the time to send in a submission to the Council. If you have kited at the Pass at Byron Bay or want to do so in the future, please PM Pearl for a submission. He has written a really good one that can be used as a template.
The more submissions that the Council gets, ESPECIALLY from travelling kitesurfers, the better chance we have of retaining access to this beach. If we lose access to one beach, there is a precedent to ban it from others.
If you can, spend the next few moments helping out your fellow kiters. Thanks all.
Greg
Mars Attacks
Mars Attacks
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14 Dec 2008 4:35am
GREATINGS EARTHLINGS! Byron Shire Council, we have had reports that they are quite a formidable force and get no greater satisfaction from knocking or banning everything and anything unless there are certain interests (if you know what I mean). We have located these councilors from our radar on numerous occassions in the location of your concern and observed an extremely odd behavior of them putting there heads into what you eathlings call sand, burying it up to the neckline with their asses pointing skyward. I and my kind intend to Kite Surf there in the future and if they ban us we will send in our supreme invasion on them. Ha! [}:)]
Hausey
Hausey
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23 Dec 2008 11:49pm
Another epic day at The Pass today!

For all those who might be travelling through and see it going off and want to get out there one day ..... and all the local kiters, it would be good for everyone concerned to get their fingers out and prepare submissions due early January.

Pearl has prepared an excellent one - either email him for a copy to send on, or email GregS to get your name on on the group one. Take a few minutes to make a difference!



loco4olas
loco4olas
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24 Dec 2008 2:04am
Hausey said...

Another epic day at The Pass today!

For all those who might be travelling through and see it going off and want to get out there one day ..... and all the local kiters, it would be good for everyone concerned to get their fingers out and prepare submissions due early January.

Pearl has prepared an excellent one - either email him for a copy to send on, or email GregS to get your name on on the group one. Take a few minutes to make a difference!



Guess this means you're back from the LH sojourn?

Great?

Agree-best we all put pen to paper-even if we never kite Byron-thin edge of the wedge, tip of the iceberg, floodgates etc. etc. and all that.

Smedg
Smedg
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24 Dec 2008 9:37am
Hausey said...

Another epic day at The Pass today!

For all those who might be travelling through and see it going off and want to get out there one day ..... and all the local kiters, it would be good for everyone concerned to get their fingers out and prepare submissions due early January.

Pearl has prepared an excellent one - either email him for a copy to send on, or email GregS to get your name on on the group one. Take a few minutes to make a difference!






Just wanted to bump this as all kiters can very quickly help out by adding their name to the group submission just by pm'ing GregS. Or submitting their own as outlined by Pearl.
Hausey
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2 Jan 2009 4:19pm
For those concerned with the possibility of kitesurfing bans in Byron Shire or possibly coming to Your Shire soon? - you could email this or your version with your contact details .... to Nigel Greenup before this Monday 5th January 4:00pm .....

[email protected]


I strongly oppose the proposed ban of kite surfing in Byron Shire.

Grounds for objection:


The following are some factors that the Council need to consider in relation to the proposed ban:

1. Kite surfing is a “small, slowing growing” sport, that isn’t going to disappear with a ban.
2. This issue is about managing the sport – and the best people to do that are the local kiters.
3. Kite surfers can share the ocean with swimmers and other surf craft. We are very safety conscious and considerate of others. Kite surfing is a relatively new sport and the equipment is becoming easier to manage and much safer to use.
4. People learning to kite surf are most of the problem – learning and practicing flying kites on the beach has potential dangers, can be intimidating to people on the beach, and is not considered appropriate behaviour by those of us who only want to be out on the water. The restriction of learners, lessons, and those being reckless and inconsiderate on the water, could be enforced by local and experienced kite surfers, and if that fails we would welcome either the surf club or rangers to remove people and equipment causing problems.
5. Kite surfers need weather conditions to ride that most people would consider to be unpleasant on the beach or in the water. Around 12 knots of wind for most kites and preferably 15 – 20+ knots of wind. This is when the regular beach goers pack up and go.
6. Kite surfers can help and rescue swimmers and other water users. As it is usually choppy when the wind is up – it is hard for clubbies to see a swimmer in danger. It seems that members of the surf club are ‘anti kite surfing’ when probably they don’t understand the sport at all – because it is something new.
7. Is banning such a recreational sport part of what council stands for? Byron Bay was known as a relaxed place where pretty much anything goes. Far more dangerous activities at ‘The Pass’ such as dive boats powering through swimmers and surfing – up to a hundred board riders sometimes on top of each other in the wave impact zone. Why should rate-payers fund a ban when it isn’t necessary, and expensive and difficult to enforce. Surfing, surf skis and kayaks cause far many more injuries in the same area.
8. If council tried to ban kite surfing from ‘The Pass’ to the Main Beach car park, kite surfers would then launch from Wategos or Belongil where it would be far more dangerous to the kite surfer, beachgoer, or private property. In the worse case scenario if people were required to launch from Belongil northwards there is the potential for a rider to end up caught up in ‘The Wreck’ which could potentially cause a fatality.
9. The local newspapers have allowed a ‘’beat-up’ of the negative side of kite boarding with ridiculous claims of “our lines being stainless steel wires that could decapitate….” When in reality they are lightweight nylon material. This has given some locals the impression that we are “going to cut their heads off” which of course creates a false impression. When they have sat down to watch us – often I have complete strangers come up and say “that looks fantastic …you’ve made my day, I wish I could try; I wish I was younger…etc”
10. Tourist kite surfers from Australia are usually experienced and choose to spend their holiday money in Byron Bay because the kitesurfing can be so good – by banning kitesurfing you will drive away valuable tourist dollars.

Conclusions:

The more practical approach is for council to allow self regulation. As a group of local kitesurfers we will be available to educate visiting kiters, as it is in our interest to keep the beach safe and accessible., we agree that;

• No learners should be allowed in this area on land, or in the temporary lagoon, and must be able to stay upwind on the water.
• No commercial lessons with kiting on land or water.
• We use a small designated kite launch / set up area on either side of the rocky outcrop between Captain Cook Lookout and ‘The Pass’, where there are no beach access paths.
• No kites permitted on the beach between the Main Beach Car park at the swimming pool, to the track at Captain Cook Lookout.
• Kitesurfers give way to all other water users.
• Kitesurfers follow NSW Maritime rules (500m out from flags. 60m either side of flags. 60m from designated swimming area. 30m from other water users.)
• Safety leash to be worn at all times
• AKSA (Australian Kite Surf Association) or IKO membership which gives public liability insurance






Craig66
Craig66
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2 Jan 2009 4:31pm
Can any one put up a map (google earth) of the area?
Smedg
Smedg
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2 Jan 2009 4:48pm
Awesome job Hausey, Pearl etal.

I can't label pics on my mac. Someone else may want to label the area clearly now and then again after councils decision.


Read Hausey's post above, send an email. Quick and easy and hopefully powerful enough to help the cause..


Maximum
Maximum
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2 Jan 2009 4:44pm
I love kiting in Byron and was sent this proposal submission thing so just fill in your own name and edit the bits that don't apply to you should not be much its almost word for word what I sent them.

I don't live in te area but I go there regular to see friends and kite or surf.

Imax


(Your full name)
(Your full address)
(Date)

GENERAL MANAGER
BYRON SHIRE COUNCIL
PO Box 219 Mullumbimby
NSW 2482

RE: RECREATIONAL KITE SURFING


SECTION 1- LETTER OF OPPOSITION
SECTION 2- PROPOSED USAGE ZONES

SECTION 1- LETTER OF OPPOSITION

I am opposed to the proposed ban of recreational kite surfing between the pass and the main beach swimming pool for the following reasons listed in section 1 of this letter. I support the establishment of a no kiting zone; this is covered is section 2.

I live in Byron bay Shire at (address) or
I visit Byron Bay Shire regularly, and really enjoy being able to kite at The Pass, I never kite at the main beach unless it is deserted and I would never kite anywhere near lifesaving flags.

I participate in the sport of kite surfing as often as I can when the conditions are appropriate. Please feel free to contact me for any technical information on the sport.
Incorrect information regarding the sport of Kite Surfing is common, please let me help you to understand the needs of this sport, and in particular how they might impact on the beaches in the Shire.

SECTION 1

REASONS FOR OPPOSITION

1/ COUNCIL JURISDICTION:
NSW Maritime officers amongst others have voiced their concern over council seeking to regulate water based activities. The Australian Kite Surfing Association (AKSA) and the New South Wales Kite Boarding Association (NSWKBA) are aware of the issues in Byron Bay. I am a fully paid up member of AKSA, via my membership of NSWKBA.

2/ INEFFECTIVE BAN:
Kite surfers could simply launch elsewhere and sail into the area. It would be difficult to sign post every track. Once a kitesurfer is underway on the water, they are no longer operating on lands controlled by Byron Shire Council.
NSW Maritime, and other Maritime Authorities around Australia have declared that a kitesurfer is a “vessel”, and subject to controls and rules developed for the purpose of promoting safe use of waterways, with some specific allowances.

3/ POORLY WORDED:
The wording of the proposed By-Law is vague and inaccurate. By saying “banning kite surfing only”, the proposed By-Law does not address all the other forms of power kite flying. It means you could still fly a power kite on the beach, as technically you are not ‘kite surfing’. These beach based activities are the most intrusive, and historically have been the cause of the most conflict with other beach users.

4/ BAN DOES NOT ADDRESS PUBLIC LIABILITY:
See section 2 for details regarding reduction of Public Liability to council

5/ PREVAILING CONDITIONS:
Kiting here requires more than 13 knots of north west to north easterly wind. In these conditions there will be white caps, blue bottles and sand blowing. It is not a pleasant environment for most beach users and there are usually few other water users.

6/ SAFETY:
Kiters would still launch from the wreck. This is a narrow beach with a car park, spiked fence and electricity lines down wind. In the prevailing north winds required to kite here, it is less safe for all. At the pass you tack into deep water, yet here you would tack along the beach.


7/ PURPOSE OF BAN:
While appreciating council must react to complaints, the stick is being pointed at the wrong user group. It is the beach based flying that is the most intrusive. Many complaints originated from a single individual who was operating illegal lessons from his mobile home/truck. This person, Mr Alex Sanz, is well known along the east Coast of Australia and has caused much trouble where he has operated his illegal and dangerous, attention seeking activities.
Apparently many people contacted the INTERNATIONAL KITING ORGANISATION (IKO) and he has been removed as an instructor following these numerous complaints. We, as concerned kiters, have also lodged complaints with council about this individual. These possibly would just tick the box of “another kiting complaint” when in fact it is fellow pro active kiters wanting to do the right thing by all beach user groups. This person is currently not residing or located in the area. Other councils have faced the same problems with this individual.

8/ REASONS FOR BAN:
A study of hospital admissions would reveal injuries or accidents are far more prevalent in surfing, skate parks, netball, football and a host of other water and land based activities. It’s unrealistic to suggest a surf boat catching a wave at the pass doesn’t present more danger to other water users, than a kitesurfer. The incidence if injuries and conflict with other water and beach users, by kitesurfers, is very low, compared to most other activities commonly enjoyed at beachside locations.

9/ RESCUES/ ASSISTANCE:
Strong wind increases currents. This increases the danger to swimmers. Surf clubs operate to seasons and timetables, and surfers usually aren’t out in the onshore winds required to kite. Numerous rescues have been preformed by kiters. A kiter in WA recently received a bravery award for saving lives. I personally, have pulled 2 children out of a rip whilst kiting. There are numerous other stories around this area and Australia of kite based rescues.
A kite surfing kite in the hands of an experienced kiter is a very effective rescue device, and kitersurfers are by nature, generally, very co-operative towards all other beach and water users

10/ ECONOMY:
A café proprietor said to me how great it was on an otherwise horrible day for patrons to watch the kites.
It is well know around the coastline of Australia, that kitesurfing is creating a valuable tourism benefit. People love to watch kitesurfers in action, in the same way that people love to observe sailboats, and whales. Many Councils have renovated or improved public viewing facilities to enhance observation, tourism and small business income in local areas where kitesurfing is popular.

11/ FAIR USE:
I support the establishment of a no kiting, family friendly zone. ( see section 2). The pass however is unique sand point with a boat launching facility. I have never had a collision. I respect all other beach users, and give way to everyone. I am pro-active in promoting safe kiting. My opinion is that it is unjust to target our local, ratepaying, and tourist kitersurfers. Kitesurfers are the ones that will suffer the most negative impact of the proposed By-Law Kitesurfers have done nothing to conflict with other beach users (or water users) and it is my opinion they are not a cause of the proposed By-Law, and should be excluded from the By-Law.


SECTION 2

PROPOSED KITE USAGE ZONES

• I support the establishment of a family friendly no kiting zone between the main beach and Clarks beach. (see map)
• No power kites of any description to operate in this area.
• No kiting in lagoons or dunes.
• As per N.S.W. Maritime Authority minimum distance off requirements in all other areas. (500m out from flags. 60m either side flags. 60m designated swimming area. 30m from other water users and other vessels.)
• Small designated kite launch/set up area at Thomos rock. - between The Pass and Clarks Beach. There are no beach access paths in this area.
• AKSA ( Australian Kite Surfing Association) membership would be compulsory to kite at the pass. AKSA Membership Tag must be displayed on kitesurfers harness. This membership carries a $10,000,000 public liability insurance cover for land and water. AKSA code of conduct rules apply. (see www.aksa.com.au or www.nswkba.com.au )
• Give way and safe passage to ALL other water users including dive boats & surfers
• No lessons or beach flying of kites between The Pass and Main Beach.
• Kitesurfing gear to be packed up when not in use and not be obtrusive to any beach users.
• Safety leash to be worn whilst kiting. (depowers and renders the kite inoperative and safe)
• Advanced kiters only to use this area. Must be able to stay upwind. (local branch of NSWKBA to be formed and will pro actively police the area and these conditions)

BENEFITS OF THIS PROPOSAL:
• Clear defined area usage zones. (will be published on AKSA and NSWKBA website and networked across the world with all our fellow kiting organisations)
• Fair and safe usage for all.
• Creation of family safe zone.
• reduction Public liability risk to Byron Shire council.
• The most intrusive, and hazardous, flying of power kites on beach, is totally removed from this area. (between the main beach and clarks beach - see map)
• Minimum distances clearly defined.
• Code of conduct applies for kiters to use this area.
• Local kiters (will form sub branch of NSWKBA) will seek to educate visiting kiters.

IN CONCLUSION
Please contact me for any other information. I am happy to assist with Byron SLSA Surf Club and Byron Shire Council, NSW Maritime local office, etc, on any issues to do with Kitesurfing and the responsible use of power kites within the Byron Shire Council boundaries.

Yours sincerely

(Your full name)
Smedg
Smedg
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3 Jan 2009 12:59pm
Bump.

Too late to use the post office now. SO Email it to Nigel Greenup before this Monday 5th January 4:00pm .....

[email protected]

(as Hausey suggested)

Takes 1 min... So support the cause.
Hausey
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4 Jan 2009 10:33am
Bump

Bumps are bad - ****ty roads here - doing untold damage to vehicles......

council should get their priorities right - been three and a half years and still half road closed to drive to The Pass.... lol.
fry86
fry86
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4 Jan 2009 9:08pm
just emailed the council, maximum thanks for putting up the template.
Smedg
Smedg
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4 Jan 2009 10:06pm
yep very 'bump' ie
Hausey
Hausey
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5 Jan 2009 8:49am
Hopefully the last bump on the road.....

......bump........
loco4olas
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5 Jan 2009 3:53pm
Sent off my e-mail also-here's hoping.
option158
option158
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16 Jan 2009 1:55pm
hi m im up from melbourne just wondering if you can kite at the main beach or what the out come was from the council on kiting there , I have been traveling and kiting for 3 years so i dont have my "leaner plates " nor am i offering lessons , just want to have some wave action!.

so if someone can tell me if im going to get in trouble if kiteing on the main beach.. cheers
loco4olas
loco4olas
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16 Jan 2009 2:49pm
option158 said...

hi m im up from melbourne just wondering if you can kite at the main beach or what the out come was from the council on kiting there , I have been traveling and kiting for 3 years so i dont have my "leaner plates " nor am i offering lessons , just want to have some wave action!.

so if someone can tell me if im going to get in trouble if kiteing on the main beach.. cheers


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