Kid in UK hurt by kite lines

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dazza5172
dazza5172
SA
311 posts
SA, 311 posts
2 Oct 2007 10:45pm
Some of you might know and most won't I can be a total ass on the beach when I witness unsafe kiting, why? because I want to keep the beach open and importantly I want to prevent things like this:

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2342478&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

This should not happen, ALLOW 100M FROM OTHER BEACH GOERS, ESPECIALLY KIDS, KITE IN THE WATER, DON'T SHOW PONY NEAR THE SHORE.

COULD YOU LIVE WITH SUCH AN INCIDENT?

We must be diligent and get onto self regulating, step out of your comfort zone and tell people off. Keep them away from other beach goers.
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
2 Oct 2007 9:46pm
the article mentioned that the family have asked the council for an explanation?

the kiter should be explaining and be liable unless they can prove it was an accident?



kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
2 Oct 2007 9:57pm
i showed signs of being a kook today (the pump i had grabbed was a dud so i was pulling it apart and stuff) so i was pleased to have some one ask me if i knew what i was doing(pleased cus its the right attitude). although i dont think they were concerned about my safety as they told me to go out again with out mentioning that he had spotted a shark in da water a minute b4 hand
as mustard
as mustard
WA
13 posts
WA, 13 posts
3 Oct 2007 11:38am
interesting that the paper specified that the kiter crashed "her" kite and not "their" kite. wonder what they were going for...?
dazza5172
dazza5172
SA
311 posts
SA, 311 posts
4 Oct 2007 4:06pm
We all make mistates, the trick is to reduce the risk of the mistake when it happens, the first golden rule of kiting is to have sufficient room down wind, this kiter did not and when the mistake occured a child nearly paid the ultimate price.

We can look like kooks at times and I appreciate this, that's why I keep away from other water users, in case I kook out, then I have time to recover or release safety etc.

The result of this could have been the worst, and can be prevented by a little safety zone down wind at all times, easy really I think.

I don't know if there was any bias in the report as mustard, I think probably not just non perfect PC reporting grammar.

Daz
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
5 Oct 2007 10:29am
Spot on - the trick is indeed to reduce the risks.

Last year i copped grief for mentioning the attitude of some folks doing downwinders through the Floreat kids beach area.

Totally unneccesary to go close into shore on this 50m stretch when the run downwind to Brighton is around 2-3 kms.

Some bods in fairness are only doing a 200m run then walking back upwind to the Sth end of flozzer (not the kiddies section). However instead of stopping a mere 30m shorter they cruise through the kids section then walk back through the fams and kiddies.

When I asked a bloke why he felt neccessary to fly his kite a matter of 2m above the heads of people on the sands (instead of over the water - the water line drops down steeply so a when flying over the beach the lines are very low) he essentially told me to go hide the sausage with myself... strange and selfish attitude and definately increasing the likelyhood of disaster???
manicskier
manicskier
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772 posts
VIC, 772 posts
5 Oct 2007 3:44pm
Totally agree with what has been said here. I think that it is important to approach other kiters with the right attitude. For example, the other day a guy self launched about 15m upwind of me (i was sitting next to my stuff having a smoke), nothing happened, but i went over there and explained that i was willing to launch him, he just had to ask, and that i don't appreciate self launching or landing immediately up wind of me. It went down OK, i think he had just forgotten basic rules:

KEEP DOWN WIND OF YOU CLEAR, ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY...

(this is not to mention many other kiters doing heaps of stupid stuff on the beach and close to shore with kids and familys around on the same day - but didn't get the chance to give them a piece of my mind. Lets not get it banned everywhere)
dazza5172
dazza5172
SA
311 posts
SA, 311 posts
5 Oct 2007 3:57pm
quote:
When I asked a bloke why he felt neccessary to fly his kite a matter of 2m above the heads of people on the sands (instead of over the water - the water line drops down steeply so a when flying over the beach the lines are very low) he essentially told me to go hide the sausage with myself... strange and selfish attitude and definately increasing the likelyhood of disaster???


This is when things have got ugly with us when people don't listen, everyone gets an opportunity to adjust their behaviour but attitutes like this? now,... well we just don't tollerate it anymore.

I had a beginner flying in very light winds at a local doing some really weird **** like hot launching the kite sitting downwind with the LE jack upright, I could see from the car park that he had no leash at all. I got up the courage and went down, and just said,
"hey bro you from around here?"
"no"
"I'm one of the local crew and just wondered about some of your techniques here?"
and so on, he was actually okay and I gave him a lesson and he said he was going to get some more lessons back in city beach. It was good, and great result, but I knew I was edgy at the start. of course my biggest question was what did he think the kite was going to do when he let it go?????

Daz
colinwill78
colinwill78
VIC
1395 posts
VIC, 1395 posts
5 Oct 2007 6:14pm
quote:
Originally posted by dazza5172

"hey bro you from around here?"
"no"
"I'm one of the local crew and just wondered about some of your techniques here?"
Daz



Great Stuff.

(although you don't sound like a total ass on this occassion...... that's why i like it!)
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
5 Oct 2007 8:48pm
approach situations cautiously and your more likely to a good result, starting a conversation about something else before bringing up the issue you want to raise is always a good start, other than that if they give you **** anyway tell them they are a disgusting waste of oxegen and you hope a great white does something worth wile for the greater good of the community.
if they get cut up there isnt much they can do while they have a kite attached to them
manicskier
manicskier
VIC
772 posts
VIC, 772 posts
6 Oct 2007 2:54am
I think that in the very near future we are going to all have to be much more willing to approach people, even our peers, about un-acceptable behavior when flying kite surfing kites. Additionally, we are (all) going to have to be much more receptive to receiving such comments/criticisms without becoming resentful or aggressive.

Essentially, we as a group of random strangers have to accept responsibility for each others behavior on the beach, otherwise our beaches will be taken away from us..... And i like kiting every night after work in the summer.

Night ladies and gentlemen.

SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
8 Oct 2007 8:40pm
Yes, allow plenty of room and make sure no one is in your killzone when you launch and land. That is 50m arc downwind of you from wind window. You often see experienced kiters think they know it all, launch and land right next to trees and people and sadly a lot of accidents are from them.
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