Kite Safety More Apparent than ever

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Caelah
Caelah
WA
319 posts
WA, 319 posts
20 Jan 2008 12:57pm
Hi Everyone

A lot of you know I'm always harping on about kite safety and you're probably fed up of hearing it, but in the 5 years I've been kiting I've never heard of so many incidents so soon in the season.

This is an extreme sport, if you are a safe kiter this sport will have a future. The more careless riding and accidents that happen, the more likely bans are going to become frequent. Whether you're in a local spot or a visitor please care for that area as if it were your own.

PLEASE for the continuing of this fantastic sport and to keep everyone safe:

1. SHOPS - please ensure if you sell someone a kite, they know where their safety should go and ensure they buy a safety leash. One guy I know at the beach bought a new kite 2 weeks ago, and had no idea where the safety was meant to go. This is poor service and inexcusable when it's one of the most important things. Putting the safety in the wrong place will not depower the kite if you pull the quick release. I have a friend who this happened to recently and his kite kept looping and dragging him under, it is not a position anyone should be in no matter how good you think you are.

2. EVERYONE

PLEASE approach people who aren't local at your spot and make sure they know the danger areas, check they are using a leash and please don't launch them without their chicken loop and safety all properly in place. Yeah you might think they'll tell you to get lost but for a few seconds of embarrassment your time could possibly save problems. Who knows you might make great new friends from it!

PLEASE give the beginners room, don't jump close to shore or where they are learning....we were all there once and they have the right to some space to learn. Go out deeper, you can still be seen by onlookers if all you want to do is show off.

PLEASE ensure you all know the right of way rules, if you don't know ask someone, no-one is going to think any less of you.

PLEASE wear a safety leash. I was at the beach this week and a guy didn't have one, I was gobsmacked that someone could consider going out without one.

PLEASE don't try and land your kite over a public walkway. I heard of this happening recently in one of my old kite spots.

PLEASE don't overestimate your ability.....yes you might be a great kiter and been doing it years, but it may not be you who messes up on the water that puts you in a difficult situation. Look before you turn, turn before the person infront of you if you are behind them on the same tack, assess where other kiters are before doing tricks/jumps so you don't make them have to do a manouvre to get out of your way.

REMEMBER we are considered the same as small boating craft on the water.

PLEASE be safe and responsible so we can keep kiting!

Thanks
mintaro
mintaro
VIC
32 posts
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21 Jan 2008 2:50am
I saw someone that looked in a bit of trouble a couple of days ago when they went to launch. The kite circled a few times and then stopped in the middle of the power zone.

<rant>
I had just come in to help a friend with their 5m kite in the 18-23Knot wind. I raced over and asked if they needed a hand. They said that they really had no idea about what they were doing. That they had done 3 lessons. Bought a second hand kite and thought that they'd give it a go.

I gave them a hand to launch and told them to give me a thumbs up when they were ready for me to let go.

The kite didn't lift up and seemed to want to drift straight back to the power zone. I grabbed the kite, parked it, and said that we should walk out in the water onto a sand bar and launch from there. That way if something went horribly wrong, they'd have time to drag through the water whilst reaching for their safety.

I was about to launch again when I looked and saw something not quite right. One of the inside lines looked twisted.

So I again parked the kite and went to check the lines. That is when I noticed that the safety was hooked up incorrectly. No depower if it was pulled!!

Then, checking the lines revealed that one of the bridle lines had detached from the kite!!

I told them that if they had any questions or ANYTHING -- to not hesitate to ask someone over there -- where the we all were.

So. Lines twisted. Safety set up incorrectly, and bridle line not attached. 3 lessons. First time out with second hand kite.

50Kg person with 9m kite in 18-23knot winds.

And I am fairly new to this too, but sheesh! The wind has SO much power -- I ended up launching the kite and it was lifting me (100Kg) off the sand.

Oh, and then there was the time that I was packing up my kite and a kite whacked the ground literally 3 foot from where I was standing!!! Right in the middle of the power zone!! 5 seconds earlier and I would have been standing there and who knows what would have resulted?

I was about to grab the kite when I saw that the guy was going to launch it again, and it was turning straight at me. I was watching carefully and totally prepared to duck, but the guy got it going straight back up.

I looked over and there were two dudes at the bar -- one guy teaching his mate. I waited to hear what they were going to say. But nothing!!

I walked up to them to say, Hey! At least a "sorry mate" would have wouldn't have done any harm.

It turned out that they didn't even see me there! Ok, you didn't see me there. Your kite crashed right in the middle of where everybody sets up and you didn't see a guy that you nearly killed!! That's pretty f_cked!

So yeah. I suppose if these sort of things keep happening it won't be long until you need to kite with a visible tag which represents that you are competent and safe; and face a hefty fine if you don't have one!!

If I hurt myself, that's one thing. If I hurt someone else because of my actions -- that could simply have been avoided, well, that would be a very bad thing.
</rant>

The more I learn, the more I realise I don't know. Soon I'll know next to nothing and be the most cautious kiter out there!!
Blownaway
Blownaway
QLD
776 posts
QLD, 776 posts
21 Jan 2008 8:44am
mintaro said...


The more I learn, the more I realise I don't know. Soon I'll know next to nothing and be the most cautious kiter out there!!


The older I get the better I was!
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
WA, 1991 posts
21 Jan 2008 9:10am
Its not us that need to be told. Most of us are fine. Its the unlessoned/taught learners we need to tell who have no idea the website even exists.
Direct them hear for info and nonwind fun.
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
21 Jan 2008 10:43am
I did my bit yesterday .

I sent out a sitewide email on friday to the mine I'm working on at the moment promoting WAKSA's Big Air comp on Sunday. After a couple of enquiries as to whether people would be able to try kiteboarding at it I sent a followup in the negative. I went on to say:

Kiteboarding is inherently hazardous and should only be learnt through professional instruction. If you are interested in learning please contact an IKO accredited instructor (International Kiteboarding Organization) who has the proper training and insurances to teach kiteboarding. We have a list of those around the Perth area here: http://waksa.org.au.86.aspwebhosting.com.au/links.aspx. Be warned, just last Wednesday at Rockingham someone tried to learn on his own and has now got a broken neck. I do not know if he's out of hospital yet. For those who don't know, 500m away from where this happened last week a man was killed kiteboarding in September 2003.

While I've still got your attention, please be aware that at no time should anyone touch the lines of an unsecured power kite (even if you think you're saving it from running away). Experienced kiters know this, the general public often do not. The lines have a breaking strain of 200-300kg each (and there are generally 4 or 5 on a kite) and will cut through to bone if handled incorrectly.


Shock value is good. I had people coming up to me all afternoon jokingly warning me to watch out for kite lines. I don't care if I get paid out, but it obviously stuck in their minds, which is the important thing. I also added that they should tell friends and family.

I wonder if any widely read newspaper would like to carry a warning one day for something to do?

That was my good deed done for yesterday, what to do today, hmmm....
Caelah
Caelah
WA
319 posts
WA, 319 posts
21 Jan 2008 10:00am
Hey Dawn Patrol,

I think you'll find it isn't the learners that are the most dangerous on the water, its more often than not those who have gained confidence who have some experience on the water and think they know it all...so my post includes everyone including you!

Yes there are idiots out there teaching mates/girlfriends who aren't qualified but its the experienced riders who need to take the lead here and offer assistance/guidance.

Trust me I've seen it first hand and those beginners who have had lessons via qualified schools more often than not just need some space which a lot of experienced riders don't give them.....we all know some riders believe it's far cooler to jump close to shore to impress the onlookers!!!

I've no idea how you can regulate lessons to ensure everyone gets to a certain competence before they go out on their own. Plenty of people I've met here have had just one lesson before going it alone...more often than not they are men and they think they are invincible.

Thanks everyone for doing your bit
trevor1
trevor1
WA
598 posts
WA, 598 posts
21 Jan 2008 1:45pm
GreenPat said...

I did my bit yesterday .

I sent out a sitewide email on friday to the mine I'm working on at the moment promoting WAKSA's Big Air comp on Sunday. After a couple of enquiries as to whether people would be able to try kiteboarding at it I sent a followup in the negative. I went on to say:

Kiteboarding is inherently hazardous and should only be learnt through professional instruction. If you are interested in learning please contact an IKO accredited instructor (International Kiteboarding Organization) who has the proper training and insurances to teach kiteboarding. We have a list of those around the Perth area here: http://waksa.org.au.86.aspwebhosting.com.au/links.aspx. Be warned, just last Wednesday at Rockingham someone tried to learn on his own and has now got a broken neck. I do not know if he's out of hospital yet. For those who don't know, 500m away from where this happened last week a man was killed kiteboarding in September 2003.

While I've still got your attention, please be aware that at no time should anyone touch the lines of an unsecured power kite (even if you think you're saving it from running away). Experienced kiters know this, the general public often do not. The lines have a breaking strain of 200-300kg each (and there are generally 4 or 5 on a kite) and will cut through to bone if handled incorrectly.


Shock value is good. I had people coming up to me all afternoon jokingly warning me to watch out for kite lines. I don't care if I get paid out, but it obviously stuck in their minds, which is the important thing. I also added that they should tell friends and family.

I wonder if any widely read newspaper would like to carry a warning one day for something to do?

That was my good deed done for yesterday, what to do today, hmmm....


You should probably add for the mine workers that kiting under the influence of amphetamines is not a good idea either
lrg
lrg
VIC
32 posts
lrg lrg
VIC, 32 posts
21 Jan 2008 11:04pm
"Kite safety" I wish more people had spoken up (on the beach). Therefor I may have not have had an accident (14 march 2006). But the kite I was riding was a 2003 Slingshot GTO 11m and it has NO safety on the chiken loop (solid). I see now ALL kites are equiped with quick releases. I think all training should focus on using your quick releases habitually. I hope I hear of no more accidents happening (pigs might fly). Its going to happen, so we should all know CPR, some basic levels of care and just keeping a level head (like the people involved with my incident). Play safe
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
21 Jan 2008 9:22pm
Caelah said...

PLEASE wear a safety leash. I was at the beach this week and a guy didn't have one, I was gobsmacked that someone could consider going out without one.



By the way, the term is kite leash......
'safety' leash is a misnomer.
If a kite leash was totally 'safe', you wouldn't need a pull-release on it at the harness.
Some folks I know refuse to wear one.
*wink.

dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
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21 Jan 2008 9:56pm
LOL
sillsymark
sillsymark
VIC
63 posts
VIC, 63 posts
22 Jan 2008 12:03am
No way I'm wearing a kite leash...I dont reakon they are safe at all!...More incidents with the thing getting tangled around the bar etc. (I am on switchblades)

If it really gets that Bad let the kite go ! I've only had to dump mine twice in my life and both times it just fell onto the beach/water and rolled over into the rest position anyway. (And just don't let yourself be upwind of anyone when you do.)

Speaking of dangerous...Has anyone else ever had a bridle line snap on a Bow kite! (That was one time I dumped the lot.) Full power - Kiteloop downwind until you or the kite hits something. Scary. I saw it happened to a mate in about 30knts (he was overpowered on a 12m) His bridle line snapped - His kite started looping flat out. I saw him do about 200 metres across the water in 3 seconds before he took off over the beach and his kite smashed into a tree (Lucky for him). He had that much speed up that he ended up sitting under the tree by the time he stopped skidding.
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
21 Jan 2008 11:17pm
yea be safe... otherwise you will end up like me



Riding wakestyle in the surf is NOT recommended... too many variables i.e. waves that can hinder your landing and send the energy through your legs.

I hear the saying "you only live once" all the time. People tend to relate this to going to the utmost extreme and risking your life, yet... shouldnt only living once mean you should try and preserve/prolong the experience as much as possible??
SamS
SamS
QLD
20 posts
QLD, 20 posts
21 Jan 2008 11:58pm
sillsymark said...Speaking of dangerous...Has anyone else ever had a bridle line snap on a Bow kite! (That was one time I dumped the lot.) Full power - Kiteloop downwind until you or the kite hits something. Scary.



Yea sorta the same thing happened to me, on a switchblade one of the pulleys on the bridal had siezed and pulled through just after riding out into the surf. Began the looping, pulled me out of the water, up the beach, i pulled the release but that didn't really change anything because i had the leash above the chicken loop. Was saved by a guy on the beach who grabed the kite the second it just hit the ground before a fence Hardly had time to reach back to the release on the kite leash. These days I feel a lot safer on a 5th line kite
Hayman
Hayman
QLD
99 posts
QLD, 99 posts
22 Jan 2008 12:20am
Yeah; but if you had the choice to go out in a boring way, or have a spectacular ending, id choose to go out with a bang!
rastazungu
rastazungu
QLD
42 posts
QLD, 42 posts
22 Jan 2008 3:27am
Well finally got news of the injured kiter at Rockingham, whose family member came to pick up the gear from WA Surf school at safety- 0h yeah " Your Welcome mate!!!!". 3 fractured vertebrae . Not worth it really, is it?
On a second note about the safety issues involved with leashes and safety systems- The common safety system seen on Cabrinha and a few other brands, where one line is pulled through a ring as the other 4 lines go slack, can fail and put the kite into a perpetual spin quite easily. If you are just starting to jump and do back or forward rolls, you'll find that the center lines start twisting a lot because of your preferred riding bias. If you initiate this safety system with 5+ twists in those lines it has all the possibility in the world to not pull through, but lock on the twists, giving the kite a perpetual kiteloop action which is really what you don't want when self landing near hard things. Keep the twists free as often as possible so it will work.

echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
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22 Jan 2008 9:46am
Hayman said...

Yeah; but if you had the choice to go out in a boring way, or have a spectacular ending, id choose to go out with a bang!


When in your entire life have you ever been given that choice?? When your dead your dead, whats going out with a bang gunna do for you anyway

In regards to Sams post... man as soon as your kite gets locked up like that hit the release, if its not completely instilled in your brain as a reflex to go to each release instantly then you are not practising proper safety. Before every session I go over my releases at least 5 times. Like I said in another topic, you need to practice something 6,000 times before its a reflex.
Hayman
Hayman
QLD
99 posts
QLD, 99 posts
22 Jan 2008 11:59am
Hey Echo, theres a time when i would have liked to have the choice. A "do not resucitate" tattooed on my chest may have helped.

I do agree safety is a major concern, especially with kiting as there are usually other people around when things get funky.
Theres always things ppl can do to prevent injury to themselves or others. Those that say it was an accident are just unaware or ignorant of the many things they could/ should have done to minimise or prevent something bad happening. Its times like these that you really dont want to be in the situation to "learn from your mistakes"...
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
23 Jan 2008 12:06am
Will people learning the sport PLEASE do their homework
learn to fly a kite properly before adding the added tasks of managing board ,strong winds,crowded spots
Please make the most of light days ,just beacause there isn't enough wind to get up on a board doesn't mean you can't go do and really hone your kite skills ,even add the board and get used to multi tasking in a less stressful environment .For years now there are countless light days that go wasted by beginners who wait for the perfect 18 kt side shore wind but haven't done their homework and developed the kite skills to make the most of it .
Caelah
Caelah
WA
319 posts
WA, 319 posts
22 Jan 2008 10:19pm
Sillsymark....how irresponsible of you to not wear a leash, please do not come to our local areas without one. It's not just you on the water and other kiters who you are endangering. If you had to let everything go, there is no guarnatee that kite will sit down like an obedient dog. I have seen someone's kite break loose and head towards the road / cars and the public. I doubt if an insurance company would even look at your case if you actually hurt someone....maybe you should consider looking into some public liability insurances.

SamS - wearing the safety/kite leash in the CORRECT position it was designed to go may have helped your situation. I am continually bemused by people riding with the safety there and thinking it's OK...it's not. Safety on kites are in a certain place for a reason, if you chose to go out and put yourself at risk and not use the gear correctly then you only have yourself to blame....lets just hope you don't hurt someone when you're on the water if this happens again. Out of interest, were you told when sold the kite where to put your leash?

Rastazungu - when you were doing your 5+ rotations one way, when exactly did you realise that you couldn't keep doing it? Common sense would prevail surely that you either go to shore and rotate the opposite way to untangle the leash or even better you start doing the tricks the other way!! When I started using the Crossbow and Switchblade 1's I realised this pretty quickly, do tricks in both directions and become a more rounded and skilled rider.

This is so frustrating and disappointing to hear of people using their gear incorrectly or making excuses for not being safe. Funnily enough it is again the male riders who are making all the comments ( and yes I know plenty of girls who read this forum that ride!). I had a conversation with two female riders today on this subject and they have a very different approach and attitude to safety compared to the guys I talk to on a daily basis. It's sad and true.
Caelah
Caelah
WA
319 posts
WA, 319 posts
22 Jan 2008 10:23pm
Hey Mr Float,

It's not just the beginners, it's those kiters who are just starting to turn, go upwind and jump that become over confident and careless, this is one of the most dangerous stages in kiting....when they think they're invincible and no matter how much you try to advise them to be careful it's like watching tumbleweeds roll across the desert!

Light wind days are good for all kiters no matter what their level, just grab a skimboard and play with your kite...any time flying a kite is more experience and you learn something new each day.

mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
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22 Jan 2008 10:30pm
Kite crew, after today's unfortunate accident of a chap and his out of control kite plowing through Mullaloo SLSC training squad on the beach front in front of club house.
Would recommend strongly, that kites stay well clear of this area for some time.
The club members are not at all happy with kites in the area when training SLSC squads, and even more so when a few are knocked down with out of control kites.
The chap discreetly bolted when a few SLSC members approached him (probably a good idea at the time)
However, the members then took the aggro out on a bunch of windsurfers who just happened to be in the area.
Apparently the kiter indicated when approached by the training squad he plowed into, that he was with this group of windsurfers further up the beach
SamS
SamS
QLD
20 posts
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22 Jan 2008 11:44pm
Caelah said...


SamS - wearing the safety/kite leash in the CORRECT position it was designed to go may have helped your situation. I am continually bemused by people riding with the safety there and thinking it's OK...it's not. Safety on kites are in a certain place for a reason, if you chose to go out and put yourself at risk and not use the gear correctly then you only have yourself to blame....lets just hope you don't hurt someone when you're on the water if this happens again. Out of interest, were you told when sold the kite where to put your leash?


Whoa. Everybody I know that kites on the gold coast with any bow kite rides with the safety above the chicken loop. It is where i was told to put it when i bought my leash, when i had my lessons, and from everybody on beaches.

And you might also be interested to know that when i bought my first kite i was told 'the switchblade 1's are made so that you dont ride with a kite leash AT ALL' It also says this in the manual dispite the ring on the front lines where it could be attached. I didn't ride with a leash for some time until i decided to try unhooked stuff.
porka
porka
WA
160 posts
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22 Jan 2008 10:50pm
Good on you guys for a serious discussion about safety.

Unfortunately I had an incident with a kiter today also. This was at Peli Pt.

He had worked upwind to where the windsurfers were, and dropped his kite right in the middle of the lane where about 15 guys were running back and forth. I had to deviate about 15m downwind to avoid colliding with his lines. As I passed he thought it was the perfect time to re-launch... The kite swung around into the window then tore down LE first missing me by a matter of inches. I hate to think what would have happened if I didn't manage to avoid it. At best a shredded kite, at worst someone would have ended up in hospital.

I've only ever had a problem involving a kiter once before at Peli Pt. Today was chaos. Things appear to be getting worse.

You guys have to remember the amount of space you take up out there! Kiting has it's place, but if more people are going to go out as kooks and cause dangerous situations, I think you are in danger of losing your privelages as water users.
aido
aido
WA
50 posts
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23 Jan 2008 12:02am
kite safety whats that is there such a thing any more just go down to leighton watch poeple looping kites out of control on the beach dumping there kites & seeing it take out a few people or the ****ers who launch there kites & go straight out dont worry about the blokes tring to have fun with the chop on the shory just cut them of its alright or even better knock there kites out of the sky thats more fun dont worry kite bans are comming talked to the ranger kittings goin to be banned at leighton cant blame them though go down there in arvos & watch the stupid s87t people do but go for it awsome
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
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23 Jan 2008 10:17am
definitely

Caelah said...

Hey Mr Float,

It's not just the beginners, it's those kiters who are just starting to turn, go upwind and jump that become over confident and careless, this is one of the most dangerous stages in kiting....when they think they're invincible and no matter how much you try to advise them to be careful it's like watching tumbleweeds roll across the desert!

Light wind days are good for all kiters no matter what their level, just grab a skimboard and play with your kite...any time flying a kite is more experience and you learn something new each day.




Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
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23 Jan 2008 11:25am
aido said...

kite safety whats that is there such a thing any more just go down to leighton watch poeple looping kites out of control on the beach dumping there kites & seeing it take out a few people or the ****ers who launch there kites & go straight out dont worry about the blokes tring to have fun with the chop on the shory just cut them of its alright or even better knock there kites out of the sky thats more fun dont worry kite bans are comming talked to the ranger kittings goin to be banned at leighton cant blame them though go down there in arvos & watch the stupid s87t people do but go for it awsome


punctuation?
Pugwash
Pugwash
WA
7733 posts
WA, 7733 posts
23 Jan 2008 11:29am
mineral1 said...

Kite crew, after today's unfortunate accident of a chap and his out of control kite plowing through Mullaloo SLSC training squad on the beach front in front of club house.
Would recommend strongly, that kites stay well clear of this area for some time.
The club members are not at all happy with kites in the area when training SLSC squads, and even more so when a few are knocked down with out of control kites.
The chap discreetly bolted when a few SLSC members approached him (probably a good idea at the time)
However, the members then took the aggro out on a bunch of windsurfers who just happened to be in the area.
Apparently the kiter indicated when approached by the training squad he plowed into, that he was with this group of windsurfers further up the beach


12 years ago, before my wind abusing days, I was fined (twice on the same day) for “being in control of a wheeled contrivance” At the time, skating was pretty popular in Tassie, and this was how it was controlled in ALL public places. Skating was only permitted on designated paths and skate parks The police had power to confiscate and issue fines for the use of such “wheeled contrivances”

Now, WA may not be Tassie, but why tempt fate There would be carnage if wind abusing was restricted to designated areas, particularly if poling and knitting are bundled and restricted to the same designated place

The simple thing to do is respect others use of public space. Otherwise, kiters, please don’t take poling down with you…

BTW, I rescued a kiter once, he was in cross-offshore conditions, kite down, paddled my board for about 500 m to get to him, there was no "thanks mate", just a stupid giggle and "you're a windsurfer" Not sure if I'd do that again...
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
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23 Jan 2008 11:31am
the common denominator is beginners... i would blame the structure of IKO lessons, 2 or 3 lessons and they are let loose, many have no idea what to do without someone in their ear all the time.

common faults: going out at crowded swimming beaches, too big kites, no respect or idea of right of way, jumping near other kiters.

its easy to spot a beginner, there the ones who make you feel at risk when near them... good riders are fun to kite around as you know they dont put you at risk

its easy to say its hypocritical but the stakes are raised and more people are doing it so its something that needs to be adjusted.
NR
NR
WA
517 posts
NR NR
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23 Jan 2008 12:23pm
It was real unfortunate what happened at Mullaloo as the kite was crashing down and repeatly crashing as it was all tangled up. It went straight through the nippers and squids training area taking out one of the parents.

The windsurfers who were 100m upwind was on the end of a lot of verbal as the kitersurfer had said he was with them before bolting it. He literally rolled it up and was gone. The Mullaloo SLSC were obviously not impressed and some parents where agro'd. Luckily one of the coaches could calm the parent down trying to point out a few of the few differences between the windsurfers and kiter. We had never even seen this guy before.

This was very uncool of the kiter. It could effect kiting in that area, and any agro with the Mullaloo SLSC could effect people like Darren who are trying hard to do all they can it that area.

Very unfortunate place to be getting dragged along by an uncontrallable kite, right through the kids training area.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
23 Jan 2008 12:28pm
Why do you need a safety leash if a kite has 100% depower?
Pheebobafet
Pheebobafet
NSW
124 posts
NSW, 124 posts
23 Jan 2008 2:41pm
it seems another common denominator is a combo of inexperience and winds over 20 kts

kitecrazzzy said...

the common denominator is beginners... i would blame the structure of IKO lessons, 2 or 3 lessons and they are let loose, many have no idea what to do without someone in their ear all the time.

common faults: going out at crowded swimming beaches, too big kites, no respect or idea of right of way, jumping near other kiters.

its easy to spot a beginner, there the ones who make you feel at risk when near them... good riders are fun to kite around as you know they dont put you at risk

its easy to say its hypocritical but the stakes are raised and more people are doing it so its something that needs to be adjusted.


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