Kite bridle line

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Glennno
Glennno
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19 May 2008 7:27pm
Hi all,

I'm relatively new to kiting - have been at it for a year now. I fly a 07 naish boxer 12 and break the bridle lines pretty regularly - seems to be sand stopping the pulleys working when I'm in the surf etc. I've already bought 1 full bridle kit for the boxer and they're pretty exxy - does anyone have links to anyone that sells bridle line and sewing/sleeving kits? Those two bits of cord aren't worth 100 bucks that's for sure!

I've tried a few kite shops but all they want to do is sell me whole bridle kits..

I'd like to make a a few spares so it's not a show stopper next time I break one. I've snapped 4 bridles since I bought the kite - maybe I'm a bit rough? I won't be buying another kite with pulleys that's for sure - my other kite is an Ozone with no pulleys and nothing's broken on it.

Thanks in advance!
Cheers
lancekenny
lancekenny
SA
402 posts
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19 May 2008 7:21pm
Hey Glenno go into any yatch shop or similar and get some dyneema (check spelling there) at the same thickness as your bridle lines. Use the sticky sail cloth repair tape to fold the ends over and then stitch with a sewing machine (you don treally need the sleeves) - will do the job a treat - done it a few times for some of my kites and saves you an absolute fortune.
manicskier
manicskier
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19 May 2008 7:55pm
what he^ said, i think they call them a boat chandler, they have all different types and sizes, pulley's and all the other rubbish for yachts, youll find what you need near the harbour...
Glennno
Glennno
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124 posts
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19 May 2008 8:02pm
Thanks fellas,

Silly question - I haven't got a sewing machine but is it too rough to sew by hand? At the moment I've got yacht chandler stuff with knots in the end - they haven't let go yet but I've heard that knots aren't as good as sewn ends?

lancekenny
lancekenny
SA
402 posts
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19 May 2008 9:07pm
sewing is a much better option... but if knots are your only choice then look up the boy scouts online book of knots... I am crapola at knots and its saved me several times...

If you dont have a sewing machine head to the local nursing home and befriend some of the oldies... they will love the challenge and go out of their way to assist - guaranteed to be lots of Janomies there - plus they will give you tea and scones
stoked
stoked
WA
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19 May 2008 9:34pm
Hi Glenno,

Do you wash your kite with fresh water after putting it in the ocean ? Also, do you use or can you use ronstan pulleys ?

I learnt to kite with Airush Halo's which have pulleys and bridles etc. The only problem I ever had with these was the squeak from the pulleys when the kites hadn't been uesd for a while, this would go away after a few minutes. I always washed my kites down with the hose if I put them in the water and then would stand them up (using screwdrivers through the front line attachments ) to dry them before putting them away. Probably sounds like a lot of hard work but it doesn't take long and your kites are always like new.

There was a thread somewhere here in this forum about pulleys, how they are fitted is very important. Basically, make sure that the pulley runs straight in line with the bridle. This is more so to protect the pulley but if the bridle isn't running straight through it might rub and cause premature wear.

Braking 4 bridles in less than a year sounds pretty rough, hope this helps ?

Mike
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
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19 May 2008 11:45pm
Hi Glennno,

We had a few bridles wearingdue to Pulley misalignment on some of the Airush Flows and DNA's last year.

I bought a roll of bridle line (25m) in a dinghy racing chandlery shop and we just replace the bridle on customers kites as they wear out for what it cost us in the line.

We don't bother to sew the ends, just tie a bowline and then tie a half hitch on the shank of the knot and use a little bit of electrical heat shrink spaghetti to "sleeve" the tail against the line proper.

It should only cost a few bucks a metre. The Airush SLE's have replaceable sections in their bridle and it is easy to replace the worn parts.

I hope this helps,


Glennno
Glennno
QLD
124 posts
QLD, 124 posts
20 May 2008 8:01am
Thanks for the replies,

Yep I do wash my kite as much as I can - the pulley's block pretty easily though - one or two landings in the sand - especially if I'm launching/landing alone is enough and they don't work properly. The pulleys are ronstan but the plastic variety - I've replaced them too as one had a flat spot on it! I'll look around for some better quality ones...

Good to know you tie bowlines - I'll see how long these one's hold up - I usually break the bridles on light days trying to get going believe it or not!

Karve
Karve
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20 May 2008 8:50am
Why don't you just cut out the wearing section and replace it with a thicker line. There have not been any bridle wear problems with the Flexifoils but all the pulleys run on 4mm amsteel rope. This amsteel section is also replaceable if you need to, to save having to replace the whole bridle

Adrenalin Rush
Adrenalin Rush
QLD
876 posts
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20 May 2008 4:51pm
Yeh same as Best kites.. You can do this mod to most SLE's. Just make sure you mark how far the pulley travels when sheeting in and out. Fly the kite at the edge of the window and get a black nikko and mark the distance. Cut that section out and replace with 4mm amsteel. Keep some spare ones and then you can replace as soon as it looks like it is wearing to much.



metalmongrel
metalmongrel
SA
118 posts
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21 May 2008 8:42am
I had the same problem. It's a fault withn the way the pulleys are set up. I have spoken to Ronstan and if the pulleys are connected with a cow hitch they misalign and wear the bridles out. If you want to fix it look at the way the pulleys are attached to the cults and change the ones on the boxer. Hope it helps. If you message me I can send the report from Ronstan with pictues.
Firiejason
Firiejason
SA
69 posts
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9 Jul 2008 11:09am
I'm replacing the rear leader lines on a XBOW2. I've found a shop that sells Dyneema, $3.30/m for straight dyneema or $1.90/m for dyneema core with a polyester sheath. Without seeing it I'm assuming I need the straight dyneema.

Question is bow lines or sewn? For those of you that have sewn on a machine, have you just used normal cotton? Won't that perish over time?

edit

I just found out I can get a new set for $30. Bugger making em for that... I'm still interested to know if you've used normal cotton to sew them...
Karve
Karve
VIC
197 posts
VIC, 197 posts
9 Jul 2008 12:06pm
Cotton rots in sea water! you need to use a polyester thread ideally
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