ewan kite said...

just watchin bondi rescue and there was two kiters at bondi beach pretty close to shore, i know i dont live in sydney but why would u do it, u will just get it banned?
does anyone know who it was.
ewan

just saw it too and wondered the same thing

HowieD said...

Never kited there myself but have spoken to various kiters who have. Lifeguards are pretty cool with it providing the beach isn't crowded (e.g. middle of summer). Also important to keep to the north side as all the surfers keep to the south side where the swell is better.

Important to check on the day and get the ok from the lifeguards if you're going to kite there. Agree that random kiters taking over the waters will just get it banned there.

It IS banned there!!
Only a total FU**wit would kite there. I was at a Council meeting last night where the discussion was to extend the ban to all of the Randwick Council controlled beaches (maroubra, coogee, little bay etc).
When we left it was still to be decided whether Council was going to implement a full ban. One of us made a speach to Council and then there was a recess after which Council would eventually vote on the issue amongst the dozens of other matters listed for the meeting.
I'll get back to the forum on how it went, later.

One of the points raised as an argument for the ban was the Waverly Council By-Law which came into force several years ago banning dual line kites from all Waverly Council beaches. This is the By-law used by Waverly Council Lifeguards to get rid of kitesurfers from Bondi Beach.

If anyone is kitesurfing there they are seriously risking access to all NSW beaches, all it will take is one serious incident (there have already been several minor ones, including one involving a fist fight on the beach, a broken arm in another, lifeguards and surfers being sworn at by kitesurfers, kitesurfers kiting in amongst swimmers and surfers and the flags)

It is incredibly selfish actions by the same few kitesurfers that has the potentila to create a wave of ba againast kitersurfing acrsoss NSW beaches, and even possibly in other States.

If you see or hear of people kitesurfing at Bondi, let me know who it is, or write to NSWKBA, then they can be named and shamed here and NSWKBA can inform Waverly Council so that this selfish and irresponsible crap can stop.

After the Opera House Bondi Beach is the most visited place in Australia by tourists, even on a cold day there will still be people from colder climates having a swim there. Bondi is an incredibly densely populated area it is not a suitable kitesurfing location.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

If no-one else will say it I will.

Was it Grant up to his old tricks again? lol

Kitepower Australia said...... banning dual line kites from all Waverly Council beaches.

Lucky most of us fly 4 or 5 line kites

fiketto said...

Can i say one thing...Kitepower Australia is talking for interest.
If kite surfing will be banded he will lose a lot of money
I'm one of the guy that does kite surf in bondi. One of the best spot in the world, been in Tarifa, Spain, Cape town, South Africa...but nothing is equal bondi!!!
Summer after 7pm and winter after 5pm best condition: wind 20-25 S-SSE
Lifeguard are really cool...
What I'm saying is... If you are a good kiter why not!!!
The only thing...Safe always...and go with a mate!!!

WHY NOT? how about the fact that as stated before, it is banned. Seeing as your english isn't so good, let me help you there, that means "ILLEGAL" seeing as it's a law passed by council.

It doesn't matter how good of a kitesurfer you are, or when you do it. Even if no accidents happen, you could p*** the councils off enough to widen the bans. Also, what happens if some newbie sees you doing it, thinks it's ok, goes out and plows through someone?

It's up to all guys who are experienced to lead by example and relay a message to newer guys of what is and isn't acceptable. Not to be selfish and inconsiderate of everyone else.

Rant over........ for now,

D

fiketto said...

Can i say one thing...Kitepower Australia is talking for interest.
If kite surfing will be banded he will lose a lot of money
I'm one of the guy that does kite surf in bondi. One of the best spot in the world, been in Tarifa, Spain, Cape town, South Africa...but nothing is equal bondi!!!
Summer after 7pm and winter after 5pm best condition: wind 20-25 S-SSE
Lifeguard are really cool...
What I'm saying is... If you are a good kiter why not!!!
The only thing...Safe always...and go with a mate!!!

Ah-so it is a tourist wannabee d$ckhead doing this-all suspicions confirmed.

fiketto said...

Can i say one thing...Kitepower Australia is talking for interest.
If kite surfing will be banded he will lose a lot of money
I'm one of the guy that does kite surf in bondi. One of the best spot in the world, been in Tarifa, Spain, Cape town, South Africa...but nothing is equal bondi!!!
Summer after 7pm and winter after 5pm best condition: wind 20-25 S-SSE
Lifeguard are really cool...
What I'm saying is... If you are a good kiter why not!!!
The only thing...Safe always...and go with a mate!!!

Who's got that extra big can of troll spray.
Troll no more you Troll.

Kitepower Australia said...

HowieD said...

Never kited there myself but have spoken to various kiters who have. Lifeguards are pretty cool with it providing the beach isn't crowded (e.g. middle of summer). Also important to keep to the north side as all the surfers keep to the south side where the swell is better.

Important to check on the day and get the ok from the lifeguards if you're going to kite there. Agree that random kiters taking over the waters will just get it banned there.

It IS banned there!!
Only a total FU**wit would kite there. I was at a Council meeting last night where the discussion was to extend the ban to all of the Randwick Council controlled beaches (maroubra, coogee, little bay etc).
When we left it was still to be decided whether Council was going to implement a full ban. One of us made a speach to Council and then there was a recess after which Council would eventually vote on the issue amongst the dozens of other matters listed for the meeting.
I'll get back to the forum on how it went, later.

One of the points raised as an argument for the ban was the Waverly Council By-Law which came into force several years ago banning dual line kites from all Waverly Council beaches. This is the By-law used by Waverly Council Lifeguards to get rid of kitesurfers from Bondi Beach.

If anyone is kitesurfing there they are seriously risking access to all NSW beaches, all it will take is one serious incident (there have already been several minor ones, including one involving a fist fight on the beach, a broken arm in another, lifeguards and surfers being sworn at by kitesurfers, kitesurfers kiting in amongst swimmers and surfers and the flags)

It is incredibly selfish actions by the same few kitesurfers that has the potentila to create a wave of ba againast kitersurfing acrsoss NSW beaches, and even possibly in other States.

If you see or hear of people kitesurfing at Bondi, let me know who it is, or write to NSWKBA, then they can be named and shamed here and NSWKBA can inform Waverly Council so that this selfish and irresponsible crap can stop.

After the Opera House Bondi Beach is the most visited place in Australia by tourists, even on a cold day there will still be people from colder climates having a swim there. Bondi is an incredibly densely populated area it is not a suitable kitesurfing location.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Gotta say that I agree with dachopper on this one. As I mentioned - I've not personally kited at Bondi. But there are no warnings/notices visible anywhere and lifeguards are actually telling kiters that it's ok to kite there. So unless someone is familiar with the ban in place how are they to know any better? An individual may see the beach very empty during a cold, windy day and seek advice from the lifeguards whom the assume, in good faith, will know the rules of the local beach. If the lifeguards say it's all ok then why would the individual assume it's not?

I agree with everyone that kiters should use common sense and not kite anywhere where there are lots of beach users and the risk of damaging the sports fragile reputation. Unfortunately this happens all the time at Botany and is a constant worry for those of us watching.

Not disagreeing about Bondi here but just making the point that it's easy to go calling people FU**wits without considering the circumstances. If someone knows it is banned and still kites there then yes - call him/her a FU**wit 100 times over.

Last time I got invloved in this issue was as VP of AKSA and was told not so nicely by NSWKBA that the matter was in hand by the said association. INterseting that it is still such an escallating issue. Lucky the local shops have it in hand.

Good luck

Glen

Kitepower Australia said...

HowieD said...
Not disagreeing about Bondi here but just making the point that it's easy to go calling people FU**wits without considering the circumstances. If someone knows it is banned and still kites there then yes - call him/her a FU**wit 100 times over.

I was referring to some unnamed but repeat offenders.
Sent a PM to "fiketto", he was very polite and said he would not kite there anymore.

The Randwick Council did pas the By-Law, so kiting is now banned at all Randwick Council beaches.
There are signs at all their beaches.

The council has promised to conduct a "risk asessment". The last thing we need right now is for kitesurfers to screw up at any of the Waverly or Randwick beaches, regardless of whether a lifeguard has said its ok, at that time.

A busload of tourists can arrive at any of those beaches and all of a sudden the beach can become crowded. These are not suitable beaches for kitesurfing. Newbie touro's will see it and think its fine to kitesurf there, one bad incident and this ban will never get lifted and poses a very serious threat to kitesurfing at any metro beach anywhere in Oz, wake up guys!!

Don't kite at Bondi or Maroubra, please.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

or Yarra Bay as well this means....

dikc haed

fiketto said...

Well guys, I've been kitesurfing in bondi beach for many time,few times with full moon... that was unreal, I know all the lifeguard and they are really cool till the time that you work with them...
In summer after 7pm and in winter after 5pm wind S-SE and it must be more than 20 knots.

What I'm say here is... if you wanna kitesurf in bondi do it...but not by your self but with a mate... and please be carfull, as always. No one want to breack an arm or even worst ingure someone.

There are sign on the beach saying that you can't drink, fly kites, and many more things that you can't do ... so I do belive that it is not really legal.
Accident can always upend especially when you fly a low kite near to the beach... That is really dangerous.

For the Concilum F...K them... they really mind only their business. I actually think and I do believe that a tourist would love to see someone kitesurfing in Bondi.
Every time many people stop me to talk about this sport... and they look interested and amazed, especially Japanese...
And... in this way we are selling the spirit of Australia!

I'm not someone that goes against the rules... I'm someone that think some time you can enjoy your life.
We even kitesurf somewhere else inside the harbor and that it is illegal... but turning around and look the opera House and the harbor bridge is priceless.

As long you are really careful and your behavior will not affect anyone... that's fine...
It is more illegal drinking and after driving...
I don't drink.... so let me kite in Bondi!!!

Irrespective of whether the lifeguards say its okay, its illegal. Can you understand I L L E G A L! I don't drink and drive either, does that mean I can go out and rob people? What a stupid excuse to break the law. A bit like saying "I'm not one to break the laws, but on the odd occasion I like to rob people to help fund my drug habit." You either break the law or you don't. There is no middle ground where you do but don't at the same time.

Fiketto is havin you blokes on in a big way and you have bought it hook line and sinker. Cant you spot TROLL.
BUT just in case me and the chick will come to Bondi and check it out.
We a happy to deal with the issue for you. Lifeguards love us,we're their kind of people. Just incase you dont know who we are,here is picture again.
Wish you were real Fiketto , you are my kind of guy.

Not to take fiketto's side (bear with me kiddies), but what's the fine / penalty for kiting at Bondi? I'm pretty sure that if the council says you can't do it then they can fine you sure, but I'm pretty sure that does not make it illegal. I wonder if the cops can even do anything about it...

Assuming the cops can do anything about it then everyone who has access to seebreeze can watch the Bondi webcams and all we need to do is call the local police to go for a drive to pinch the perp. Simple fix eh? [}:)]

So back to fiketto and anyone else who chooses to kite where there are local bans, especially after you know full well there are bans. You may find out the penalty for kiting there is a trip to hospital. Either as a result of meeting one of the locals (especially at the Bra), or other gnarliness from kiting at any of the previously mention spots. There is a good reason that Bondi and Maroubra have kiting bans, so good luck with that buddy...

I've heard of a guy who kite at Bondi and Coogee. And he is not a touro's, just plain show offs - F**kwit.

What I can say is that if those bans start getting widespread to regular kite beaches around Sydney, I will pay the c**t a visit.