Kitesurfing Endurance Run

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echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
6 Jun 2007 9:48am
Hey guys,

I am probing at the idea of attempting to cross Bass Strait this summer, or maybe next. If anyone knows of s1 with a big and fast boat that could work as support then I would be forever indebted. Nothing is formal yet I am just probing around to see what sort of obstacles I must face to get such an adventure underway and much it would cost to charter a boat. Has anyone done it before? what did they or should I do to seek sponsorship ect? Which Route did they take? I was thinking of maybe leaving Port Campbell tracking to King Is (77nm) Then King Is to Wiltshire (95nm). What are the condition similarities between Vic and North Tas? All advice is appreciated.
sunseeker
sunseeker
QLD
1203 posts
QLD, 1203 posts
6 Jun 2007 10:00am
Hey mate, sounds pretty hectic - I've seen footage of French guys crossing the English Channel with kites. You'll probably need an 8ft directional speed board that's pretty heavy to cut through the chop and some sort of brace other than your harness. You'll also need to be really fit especially in the legs department - as I recall you've done some long distance speed waterskiing before so you'll know what the deal is.
The bass straight can be a treacherous place so you'll have to pick your time of year well. Also, if you do the crossing and then straight after do the Coolum downwinder you'll have a good chance of winning that...
Some sort of sponsorship is probably the go.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
6 Jun 2007 8:47am
From http://www.nickmoloney.com/?s=1533

Guinness World Record holder for first and still the only person to Windsurf non-stop and un-assisted across Bass Strait from mainland Australia to the Island State Tasmania. 22 hours 11 minutes.

With a kite I'd imagine you'd be slower, so I'd think it would take more like 25-30 hours, depending on conditions of course. Can you kite for that long on the one tack?
JayP
JayP
QLD
249 posts
QLD, 249 posts
6 Jun 2007 10:49am
How bout crossing the Torres Straight. PNG to Australia, Daru to Thursday Island.

at least the water is warm and there are more islands to get to if you have problems.
Neill
Neill
VIC
484 posts
VIC, 484 posts
6 Jun 2007 11:02am
Your back leg will be stuffed after 20-30 hours on one tack. hope that helps.

some kind of lockable extension brace on the knee would be the go, the front leg should be okay but you might want the same as well.
Smedg
Smedg
NSW
836 posts
NSW, 836 posts
6 Jun 2007 12:25pm
Man i got no helpful advice. but... I reckon that no matter what you learn from others you gotta do it. sounds like a great idea. ofcoarse u should find out all you can and be as prepared as possible but i think that its a great idea and that you should definately do it. there comes a time when you just gotta go and Im sure it'll be something awsome to remember
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
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6 Jun 2007 12:29pm
get in touch with sailors/yacht clubs who have done the melbourne to devenport or sydney to hobart
BoDiddly
BoDiddly
VIC
622 posts
VIC, 622 posts
6 Jun 2007 12:31pm
That's awesome...
Wind would be a major factor, you would need to ensure you have some pretty exhaustive wind history for such an attempt.. Not sure how consistent the breeze is. Guess selecting the windiest time would be best and if it did die off then camp on a boat till it picks up again?

Good luck mate!
skeggs
skeggs
QLD
84 posts
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6 Jun 2007 1:52pm
Advice?!? See a shrink! Heck, he'll probably give ya a probe too!!!
brady
brady
TAS
455 posts
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6 Jun 2007 2:07pm
A couple of us here have been talking idly about it for a while. We reckon a South to North crossing would be better - more often get southerlies, and lets face it the mainland is a lot easier to find! We were thinking going via King Island would be the go.

When sea-kayakers attempt the straight, they travel at the eastern end, island hopping all the way.

A good steady nor-wester would be good for the reverse journey if that was your preference.

If you are seriously up for it, I'd be keen to join in, and I'm pretty sure my mate would be there too.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
6 Jun 2007 2:14pm
i dont think the nor-westers are as consistent or reliable as the sou-westers/southerlies. south to north is a much better idea.

we looked into doing it years ago on hobie cats, island hopping down the east side from the prom, but couldnt think of a support boat that would have enough range or be able to keep up in the windy stuff.
meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
6 Jun 2007 12:49pm
great idea and you could get that Tony bloke to be in the support vessel. Just don't let him sail anything.
bmac
bmac
VIC
40 posts
VIC, 40 posts
6 Jun 2007 5:56pm
Yeeehaaaaaa!!! you gotta do it.
Blownaway
Blownaway
QLD
776 posts
QLD, 776 posts
6 Jun 2007 6:04pm
quote:
Originally posted by skeggs

Advice?!? See a shrink! Heck, he'll probably give ya a probe too!!!



Go 4 it, sounds pretty psyco. I might settle for a DI to Noosa run myself, in summer!
rooey
rooey
QLD
498 posts
QLD, 498 posts
6 Jun 2007 6:21pm
beat ya to it Echo,I booked into the Syd to Hobart yacth race next year,been practicing my long distance skills across the river mouth,complete with my survival pack....1 slab of extra dry,6 premade egg and bacon roll's,sea sickness tablet's,change of boardshort's and an inflatable zodiac just incase of the unexpected
KiteDevil
KiteDevil
TAS
778 posts
TAS, 778 posts
6 Jun 2007 6:44pm
Great idea, but on a different note, do you remember the guy who tried to drive his VW Bettle (marine conversion) to Melb from NW Tassie? They said "Your mad!" so he tried, and got rescued. He tried again, and got rescued again... the third time they said "Don't do it, we wont rescue you again". He did it, and know one ever saw him again. He's down there with a few mad kyakers too.

Anyway I can get a cray or Ab boat and captain mad enough, he'd want money and lots of it thou. Also you'd want to leave from somewhere near Stanley in a good SW setup and aim at Wilson's Prom. Downwinder all the way and the shortest distance from Tas to Vic (I think )

Other things you'd need are;
* massive balls of steel
* legs like tree trunks
* fantastic big wave skills
* Insomnia
and Loads of cash among other things.

Perhaps a relay would be more the go? Tag team style...

Don't think i'm trying to put the mokers on you thou, if you pulled it off you might get on the news!!

PS: Nick Molloy may be the only guy who needed his ego stroked for doing it, but I know of another windsurfers who just rocked up at Boat Harbour. A mate is in the surf club there and in came this guy, mid life crisis kind of thing, he just told his wife he's going windsurfing and then decided he'd point south! Freaking MENTAL [}:)][}:)]
Intheozone
Intheozone
WA
247 posts
WA, 247 posts
6 Jun 2007 7:10pm
Try getting intough with this las. She crossed the irish sea and did a distance of 70nm by kite see the link news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/2238076.stm
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
6 Jun 2007 10:36pm
Thanks for all the advice. North to South is a good idea, I was steering away from it cause I gotta ride switch the whole way Guess itll be toeside instead. Might ring some trawlers tomorrow and do some pricing. Im sure s1 else will pay for it though... perhaps I can get a virgin logo on my kite
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
6 Jun 2007 10:40pm
Also Brady i am serious. It has been on my mind for a while. So I would be keen to meet up. At least then we can split the cost of a boat.
xtortya
xtortya
WA
322 posts
WA, 322 posts
6 Jun 2007 8:45pm
did ian young of perth end up getting the distance record??
quote:
Originally posted by ianyoung

Started enjoying myself at the start but had to tack a bit to get best speed - until becalmed @ Pinaroo :-( Had fun on the waves @ Alkimos then the wind really kicked in and the conditions got a lot worse - really gusty and choppy - I had to slow down to avoid big wipe outs when nose-diving into big chop. Biggest mistake I made was wear a waist harness - by the end the kite was very high and I was bearing off by no more than 20 degrees so it was difficult to keep the harness low enough to be comfortable. Graham Currie, Mary and my son Scott were my land-based support crew - Graham and I went out for a wave ride @ South Passage for an hour - after changing down to my 5m Pulse

The furtherest offshore I went was 500-700m. I had a mobile phone, GPS, EPIRB and Camelbak with water, food & money. Apart from the harness I was pretty comfortable and enjoyed myself - love a challenge - besides it was training for a possible world record distance attempt: 300km+ Perth or Lano out to the Abroholos Islands - keen to secure sponsors as we'll need a cray boat as Guinness official observer & safety and the fuel bill won't be cheap

manicskier
manicskier
VIC
772 posts
VIC, 772 posts
6 Jun 2007 10:45pm
122 nautical miles, 225 kms, wilsons prom to george town (down the river) or other way around, only difference is there are no islands to hop along the way.

The chick that Intheozone is talking about...

A Pembrokeshire extreme sports enthusiast has become the first person to kitesurf 70 miles across the Irish Sea.

Kirsty Jones, 24 from Marloes arrived at Martin's Haven, a short distance from her home, just over five hours after leaving Rosslare in the Irish Republic.

.....70 miles in 5 hours should only take you 10 hours or so, in the right wind of course.
wdric
wdric
NSW
1625 posts
NSW, 1625 posts
6 Jun 2007 10:57pm
You haven't mentioned how you intend to cross the straight
But I highly recommend one of these two routes
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=4640


You could even take your kite gear and get some time on the water while you are over there
ric
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
7 Jun 2007 8:09pm
quote:
Originally posted by KiteDevil

I know of another windsurfers who just rocked up at Boat Harbour. A mate is in the surf club there and in came this guy, mid life crisis kind of thing, he just told his wife he's going windsurfing and then decided he'd point south! Freaking MENTAL [}:)][}:)][/size=1]



That is a deadset classic.

Its just finding wind averages, perhaps I could source out a lighthouse keeper on one of the islands in the strait. They do daily observations and are pretty in tune to the local conditions. The suggestion of having a trawler as a backup boat is a good idea. Its all about timing though (finding a day when the wind starts blowing at sunrise and continues to blow all day until sunset). Syncing that up with hiring a boat will be the difficult part, unless we can get one for a week, but getting that and a skipper for that much time will be expensive. Plus it will be windy so conditions for many boats will be treacherous. My idea maybe would be to go at the time the Sydney to Hobart is on. There will be lots of traffic in the water hence more rescue craft both air and waterborn. Safety wise it shouldnt cost too much money and most stuff can either be resold or brought second hand. Fluro helmets with beacons, lifejackets, serious wetties, a camel sack and an EPIRB. Plus where the board handle is I'd insert containers for a few mars bars and extra water to reduce body weight and save the legs. I think mixing it up between toeside and heelside would be a saviour. Possibly going half an hour at a time on each. My number 1 concern is if I can do it in daylight hours cause I dont wanna be in Bass Strait in the dark. I know Nick Moloney took 22hrs but I can average a solid 20knots and if you can get the line right the distance is only 170nm.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
7 Jun 2007 11:42pm
double up on all your lines, or at least the front ones
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
7 Jun 2007 11:59pm
MAD, must be an entertaining thought though.
joespencer
joespencer
QLD
167 posts
QLD, 167 posts
8 Jun 2007 9:15am
Don't know if it is viable, with wind speeds, but what about the carafino hydrofoil boards? It would be much easier on the knees (not banging through chop), and apparently they go more upwind than conventional boards.

Downside is that the upper limit of windrange is lower than a normal board.
joespencer
joespencer
QLD
167 posts
QLD, 167 posts
8 Jun 2007 9:28am
also.... saw an article on a guy who did a long distance crossing in europe and he used 3 "boards"- a small board, a long (9 foot) windsurfer board, and then an inflatable zodiac tender. he used the boat tender to sit down for rest, and also to eat and rehydrate, while still flying the kite. he had a support boat carry the boards, (towed the tender), he wasn't using.
KiteDevil
KiteDevil
TAS
778 posts
TAS, 778 posts
8 Jun 2007 3:52pm
Echo echo echo...

If you want wind from dawn to dusk over 25knots continuously you'll want to hitch a lift on the back of a low pressure system that crosses across or below Tas. (Checkout the chart archive on BOM)You'll have to go south to north in a SW blow. It'll be around 200nm or less from Stanley to Wilsons Prom in that wind. If you can sit on 20knots you'll be there in 10 hours.

Only issue is it'll be a huge following sea that a support boat most likely will not enjoy, but the surfing would be MAD!! [}:)]

bananaboy
bananaboy
QLD
118 posts
QLD, 118 posts
11 Jun 2007 9:56pm
Another warm up would be Freo to Rottnest Island in WA, probably a little shorter than the bass strait, and when the freo doctor kicks in it wouldn't be all that that bad. I haven't heard of anyone doing it on a kiteboard. Plenty of windsurfers have done it, but the WA boys could correct me on that !!
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