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damon
damon
WA
3 posts
WA, 3 posts
10 Sep 2005 9:40pm
Hi all. I'm new to the community, and currently doing lessons with Dan Anderson - who rocks - and I'm chafing at the bit to get my gear, get out there and get funky.

I am 115kg and 6'4" or 195cm tall. As far as gear goes I adapt really quickly, so I prefer selling my internal organs to get top shelf equipment that is perhaps harder to learn with but suits me a lot better in the long run, so I don't end up stuck with something I'm bored with.

Any ideas which are the most awesome 14 or 16 kites for my weight range? I hear that underground make pretty loose boards, but I am unsure as to style and size. When does the 06 gear arrive and should I wait around to take a look at that?

Any ideas are warmly welcomed.
Hardcarve1
Hardcarve1
QLD
550 posts
QLD, 550 posts
11 Sep 2005 12:00am
Hi Damon
I'm heaveir than you and this is what I can reccomend.
As for boards hands down go for the Cardboard 138x41 I use a UG wave tray and have tried the UG FLX and many more and the Cardboard is a my choice as the best board and Ozzie made, go to this site www.cardboarding.com.
Kites, you have plenty of options but it depends on were you live. If your west coast then 10 12 16 or east coast could be 12 14 20. If money is no object then go the new North 06.
Just my opinoin.
Alex
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
10 Sep 2005 10:26pm
Best advice possible is right on hand.
Everyone here can give you lots of alternative opinions - any no. of which may be perfectly valid even if they are conflicting.
IMO 'whats right for you' depends on 'you'. By the time 'you' are finished with Dan he will know which right info is the right info for 'you'.
Just ask & take his advice - guaranteed 'you' won't go wrong.
Johnt
Johnt
WA
108 posts
WA, 108 posts
11 Sep 2005 4:40pm
Hi Damon
I am same height as you and a bit lighter. I prefer a bit more planing area on the board - I have a 155x39 and a 139x41. I find that unless the wind is really humping, or really solid, with the smaller board (Slingshot SX) and with any type of lull,I spend more time under the water than on top and battle to get upwind. My longer board (Stubbs made) also has less rocker which is quicker to get on a plane, but not so nice for quick turns. My next board will be wide - about 145xabout 44. It also looks like the footstarps aren't set for tall guys either. My long boards' footstraps are so close togtehr, that quick turing to pop jumps etc is quite difficut.
My opinion - maybe others disagree.
Johnt
Johnt
WA
108 posts
WA, 108 posts
11 Sep 2005 5:34pm
I have a few fuel slingshots and a cabrinha contra. Altho' the fuels have done me well, the cabrinha is light and easy to relaunch and has excellent hang-time. Have a look at the cabrinha crossbow - two guys were out on 12's while I was on a 17 fuel. Seems really light and responsive. I might give one of these a try.
NeilT
NeilT
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
11 Sep 2005 6:34pm
Welcome to the new world Damon!! Your question opens a potpourri of possibilities. Be aware that the responses will only be personal opinions and not facts so take your time before you make a decision on gear.
You will find many excellent kitesurfers who will recommend exactly what they currently fly with yet they didn't start with this equipment. If you buy advanced gear then you may well spend more time IN the water than on it. With all due respect to Hardcarve, I doubt if a 138 was his first board! You DO need a fairly large kite due to your build. You can't drive a Formula 1 car until you have a fair bit of time on a Holden and you are not the first person here to be a "fast learner". Actually....come to think of it.....you could start on the F1 car but the odds are that you will soon be a dead F1 driver instead of a very alive Holden driver with a grin from ear to ear!!

Most of the current kites are excellent with little difference between them where a new flier is concerned. Personally, I would recommend a 16m kite and a board around 150. The shorter you go the higher wind you will need to use it. Longer term you can get a shorter board and keep the long board for light winds.

Kites can be either inflatable, multi-bridled parafoil or 'hybrid' parafoil. They all have their advantages. You can't go wrong with any of them but you should check'em all out first anyway.

Brands of kites and boards are very much like the brands of beer that guys drink. They all taste pretty good after the first few but, after lots more sampling, you learn how to judge the ones that you prefer. It all comes down to "taste". Otherwise, we would all be driving Hyundais......arrrkkkkk...!!@@@$$#!.... (I can say this while Johnny Guyer is on holiday... :)) )

Once again, welcome to the fold!

all the best

Neil Taylor

www.kite.net.au








sprouse
sprouse
WA
78 posts
WA, 78 posts
11 Sep 2005 9:13pm
i am about the same as you. don't bother with a 16, you won't learn the right technique on a larger kite, your jumping and timing will be slow and you won't be getting that much height as you would on a 12 or 14. for a one kite kit anything from 12-14m would be perfect.

i ride a 12m bronco with 20m lines and a delta 122 x 40 TT ( this does me through the whole summer), since your a bit bigger then most other kiters, go for the little extra width. most boards are 36-38 wide, i'd go 40. I'd recommend a board from 130- 145. but you need that little extra width it will make a big difference in you riding progression.

If you decide to go custom talk to the shaper about getting a board with a wider stance as most boards are design for the average kiter, trust me it will make a huge difference, you will land jumps easier because your legs will bend down easier.


I'd personally recommend a 12m, dan should set you up pretty well.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
11 Sep 2005 11:18pm
a 12 is 'da bomb' if your board is big enough.
it's the kite most kiters would prefer to fly.
thominator
thominator
WA
35 posts
WA, 35 posts
11 Sep 2005 10:01pm
My advice as I am 100+ KG is to invest in a heavy duty set of lines as the excess strain from your weight you will find that you go through a couple of sets in a season. Also if your body shape is like a pear I would recomend a seat harness over a waist one as they tend to ride up under your arm pits causing a lot of discomfort and frustration.
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
12 Sep 2005 9:45am
Dude,

its like I have a double, only I'm 118 kg. My usual kite is my 20m X4, but my favorite is my 16m X4. I used to have a Thorn 129 but I lost it, now I use and Underground FLX 132, which does me in most conditions. I use the 20m up to 20 knots then I go to my 16m and if its around 25 to 30 knots I go to my 12m X4. So, depending on where you live and the winds you get, 20 16 12 should cover most winds. I tend to use my 20 when everyone else is on 16, if I change down, they are on 12's and if I'm on my 12, they are on their 10's or 8's. Don't be scared to use bigger, you'll have fun and boost big.

Cheers for now,

Robert.
tWp
tWp
VIC
53 posts
tWp tWp
VIC, 53 posts
12 Sep 2005 12:56pm
Dude. Another Double.
That was me 12 months ago!

I've lost 7 or 8 kilo's since then...

110 kg / 192cm

Cheers for now,

Another Rob
Mini Mal
Mini Mal
WA
298 posts
WA, 298 posts
12 Sep 2005 3:21pm
The wind around here hauls 105kgs around quite easy on a 12 & 16m LP giving the body a good slaming when you **** it up. It has more power and pickup than any V8 skiboat I have been behind and no fumes. Cheers
richo
richo
QLD
337 posts
QLD, 337 posts
13 Sep 2005 8:24am
moti put me on to the liquid force WLF 140 it rocks. It is very wide with deep concave and soft rails. Very good at cutting chop and very stable. What ever you do test ride this puppy before you buy. I am 97kg and this board really helped me. Give moti a call and south tweed wake and surf to get a test ride.

I have a 12m crossbow and it is the only kite i need with this board. I can get upwind in 13 knots and have riden with paulio (another haeavy rider) while he has been using his 20m.

Good luck and remember this is all just info from our personal experiences. Go with what your instructor says and you can not go wrong
damon
damon
WA
3 posts
WA, 3 posts
13 Sep 2005 9:42pm
wow, thanks to everyone for their welcoming and advice so far. I've never seen such a vibrant and alive forum with so many interested crew, and I'm glad I'm a part of it.

Damon
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