Kiting lessons and swimming proficiency

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kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
WA, 680 posts
3 May 2007 4:27pm
Just out of curiosity, how many kiting schools look at swimming ability before giving lessons?

I've seen a huge number of people who can't swim get their scuba tickets. They do need to complete a 200m 'swim' but I don't think dog paddle or old granny breaststroke counts. It seems that no one really cares too much as long as the money keeps rolling in. When I was 14 and getting my diving license, my old man wouldn't pay for my ticket unless I could swim at least 2km.

I can't see the difference between the two. If you lost your gear 2km out (not that you should be that far out if you're a law abiding citizen) could you swim in or would you need help?

Seeing that everyone is getting 'safe gear'...depowerable kites, 5th lines, quick releases etc., I wonder how important the kiting industry deems swimming proficiency to be.

Faaaaaark where's the wind and swell!?
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
3 May 2007 4:55pm
Hi Kiterdan,

As part of our Medical health assessment form, all of our students must attest to being able to swim 200m as well as 13 other "conditions" like recent surgery, asthma, diabetes, seizures and allergies etc. The students then sign to say it is a truthful statement. If they acknowledge any of the conditions we then modify the lesson or take additional precautions to reduce aggrevating the condition.


We do not individually test each students ability to swim although they often get the chance to demonstrate their swimming ablity during the course of a lesson. We have had a couple of students who were unfit and probably relied on the life jackets more than they should have. Usually "chronologically" and "circumferentialy challenged" gents, but with close supervision, the right safety gear and carefully assessing your students condition throughout the lesson, it's easy to keep em safe.

We have never had a student who couldn't swim, although I've witnessed the Japanese tourists in Hawaii often unable to swim but were determined to paddle an unstable sea kayak 2km out to sea to visit the Mokoluas (twin islands).

Hope this answers your question. Good winds,

rooey
rooey
QLD
498 posts
QLD, 498 posts
3 May 2007 6:58pm
yea kiterdan, heeps of dudes that don't know what surfing without a leg rope was like in the old day's could'nt swim if there life depended on it ,literally. Guess its the same with kiteing,yes compentancy in the water should be a mandate before attempting to do any kind of water sport,even muff diving without a snorkel could be fatal
meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
3 May 2007 5:14pm
fark swimming, i have every conceivable bit of safety equipment known to man tied around my waist and i will NEVER need to swim.... and as i sink to the bottom i will press the quick release on each of them so they can wash up on the beach for you guys.

that aside, i would hope most kiters can swim 2km in a pool session without any dramas. its also a great way to keep fit and meet burds.
cwamit
cwamit
WA
1194 posts
WA, 1194 posts
3 May 2007 5:37pm
quote:
Originally posted by meerkat

fark swimming, i have every conceivable bit of safety equipment known to man tied around my waist and i will NEVER need to swim.... and as i sink to the bottom i will press the quick release on each of them so they can wash up on the beach for you guys.





How thoughtful of you!

I swim in winter at the pool lap lanes and can honestly say I couldn’t swim 2k's –maybe if my life dependent on it - 10 laps of a 25 meter pool and I am F….
silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
3 May 2007 9:42pm
My longest swim was about 2km, pushing all the gear stacked on top of the board, after a catastrophic failure of my harness.

It wasn't funny at all, as it wasn't funny when 50 m from the beach line, the life savers came to ask me if I need help.

Knowing to swim and learning self rescue techniques, all must be part of the "curriculum" of all kitesurfing schools.

I know, responsible kiting schools have self rescue techniques in their program. But they are the "doggy operators" which are worrying me
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
3 May 2007 10:13pm
50m swimtest before water session at our school. They also sign an indemnity form before lessons start and in there there's a declaration to state they can swim 50m.
spot1
spot1
WA
1588 posts
WA, 1588 posts
3 May 2007 8:28pm
quote:
Originally posted by cwamit

Originally posted by meerkat

fark swimming, i have every conceivable bit of safety equipment known to man tied around my waist and i will NEVER need to swim.... and as i sink to the bottom i will press the quick release on each of them so they can wash up on the beach for you guys.






BETTER HARDEN UP MY GIRL SWIMS 3 KM 4 TIMES A WEEK
if your kids can do that we shoud at least do 2k
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
3 May 2007 11:16pm
quote:
Originally posted by silviu

My longest swim was about 2km, pushing all the gear stacked on top of the board, after a catastrophic failure of my harness.

It wasn't funny at all, as it wasn't funny when 50 m from the beach line, the life savers came to ask me if I need help.


Lucky for you, I had my centre trim rope give out out the back at Scarbs the other day, directly in front of the lifesavers tower, and they didn't come out at all.

Probably because I had my lines wrapped up and was halfway through a self rescue by the time they noticed...
manicskier
manicskier
VIC
772 posts
VIC, 772 posts
4 May 2007 5:31am
agree with meerkat, why the fk do i need to swin, i have a bloody kite
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
4 May 2007 3:02pm
quote:
Originally posted by silviu

My longest swim was about 2km


not sure if it counts as a swim when you are wearing a PFD, more like a 2km drift
did you miss me silviu?
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