Hello again,

How would a begginer fair up in a Noreaster at Kurnell - In front of the dunny block at the end?

When I say begginer, I can edge etc, but lose a fair bit of ground downwind.

Sick of the crowds at Brighton. And with my luck the wind is always a few degrees too North or the swell is wrong for Greenhills.

So could one play out of peoples way at Kurnell?

Thx

Kurnell may be a bit dangerous for beginners as you have rock groynes to deal with.Launching and landing kites is a pain in the ass as the beaches are narrow it can also get quiet crowded there as you have to deal with windsurfers sometimes.

Also their are power lines on the side of the road, and have seen a kiter get lofted from the road into the reserve, also seen kiters ditch their kites and swim in , there kites end up in the oyster leases or the mangroves.

But in saying all that there is a great bunch of guys their that kite, and will be more than willing to help you out.

Hey Monkey kiter,

If you drive around to Riverside Drive on the corner at the point of Mick Moylans ie the point downwind of Dolls and on the other side of the little bay where the GRSC is, you will find a sandy point where the gap across the river is at its narrowest and the tide runs strongly. The Nor Easter still gets in there nicely and NO ONE KITES THERE!

If you park in the car park near the public toilet block in front of the swimming baths and then walk down to the point you will find a veritable gold mine of empty water clean wind and empty beach, it generally rarely gets any beach users and even has a smooth water area just around the point a bit further downwind where it is shallow if you have issues staying upwind.

If a few people try riding there, you will find it very good, uncrowded and safe so long as you keep your kites away from the 100 foot Norfolk pines around to the side nearest the swim nets.

Maybe you can be the starter of the next Dolls, cause as soon as people cotton on, it'll get crowded too I'm sure.

Have fun and be safe,

Thanks for the info guys.

I wont bother with Kurnell for now. I sail cats out of there too and I know what you mean about kiters getting in the way.

Also, I was sailing the cat today and stopped off at Pelican Point and Carters Island. Sensational place to kite in a Noreaster. Just a matter of getting there I guess. Nice clear shallow water for a good 100m out

And Kitehard, I know exactly what you mean about the sandy area in front of the GRSC. At low tide today there was a good 50m of beach with hardly anyone around. And then there is that sandy point downwind in front of the SGSC in case its needed.

Today was the 1st time I have paid attention to that area. Not sure how it would fair up in a hight tide, but you'll definately see me there in the next Noreaster. Or possibly even a Southerly?

There just has to be a reason why no one kites there????

Just a little more info on that area between the 2 sailing clubs.
The wind does get in there if it is a true NE, but if if is swinging to the N or shifting N as it has been later in the day this year, then you will be in the poo down there.
When we applied to Waterways for our permit, they had issues with kiters using that area and restrictions were placed on us for teaching in that area, basically due to the amount of boat traffic in the area once you get 100+M offshore.

It can be done, if you are experienced, but there are good reasons why everyone stays up at Dolls, and everyone helps each other to manage the beach and rescues, lost boards, etc.

I would not recommend the area to begginers who are having difficulty saying upwind, not saying thats you Monkeykiter. I would definately not recommend people kite there on their own.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

Thanks,

I walked down the the sand flats between the sailing clubs this arvo.

The wind (at the airport) was 050 degrees which is just shy of a Noreaster. It was about 10 degress offshore. It would work fine in anything from 060 to about 220 degrees as you have shore downwind. However I agree with Steve that it doesnt look like an ideal place to kite alone.

Surely the boat traffic is similar to the boat traffic at dolls though?

As for the beaches between Brighton and Dolls it's just as bad as Kurnell with those rock groins! And some of the 'bays' have massive poles sticking out of them. There just doesnt seem to be much downwind saftey.