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snoochieboochies
snoochieboochies
WA
13 posts
WA, 13 posts
25 Nov 2005 2:13pm
Ok so i'm gonna get a helmet, getting a sonic (with 100% depower (apprently) and getting an underground FLX board.

So i really dont want to lose my $900 board and being the absolute noob of all noobs am sure to have is come off and have trouble dragging up to it.

So should i get a leash? one of them coil leashed aren't dangerous are they?

Snoochie Boochies!
Ben De Jonge
Ben De Jonge
WA
819 posts
WA, 819 posts
25 Nov 2005 2:34pm
No.

Search this forum on 'Leashes' to find out why.
Leashes make a fairly dangerous sport seriously life threatening.

Body dragging to your board is easy and rarely takes more than a couple of minutes.
Blondie
Blondie
VIC
38 posts
VIC, 38 posts
25 Nov 2005 5:39pm
a coil leash is just like a spring, when you pull a spring then let go, the spring comes back.
they can also drag your board under water (so ive heard and is my experience from surfing) you board will try to surface possibly getting plenty of speed to hurl it out of th water straigh at you.
freeflyfreak
freeflyfreak
WA
74 posts
WA, 74 posts
25 Nov 2005 2:54pm
NO LEASH.

suck it up private.

learn to body drag. the incentive of possibly loosing your board will make you learn quickly. just dont drag too far one way cos u can possibly lose sight of the board sometimes.

smoochies

sarmyles
sarmyles
WA
20 posts
WA, 20 posts
25 Nov 2005 2:55pm
I had a leash then I had six stiches in my head when board went over my head.
I have wife but no kids so got a helmet.

I then split my ankle open to the bone and had to get it stiched up and missed two weeks of valuable seabreeze waiting for it to heal enough to be watertight

Keep the leash for dog walking, put your name and mobile no. on the board and practice your bodydragging

bondo
bondo
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
25 Nov 2005 5:34pm
just try inflating your kite with helium and you will have no trouble getting back to your board.
Rod
Rod
WA
102 posts
Rod Rod
WA, 102 posts
25 Nov 2005 3:49pm
If you get a leash get a retractable leash, is made of webbing, ie no rubber to spring back at you like a gidgee. Try to only use it in light winds if you must or clip it on when relaunching so you can focus on getting your kite back in the air rather than worrying about your board floating away. In a decent wind you should be able to body drag easily enough back to your board.
LookUp
LookUp
WA
124 posts
WA, 124 posts
25 Nov 2005 4:09pm
Rod mate, it doesn't matter what your leash is made from, it will still submarine and then get flung at you like a missile with a hard-on for the back of your head It has nothing to do with elastication (made-up word). Once that leash extends to full capacity, it could be made of chain-link, it is still coming looking for you.

All leashes are dangerous.[}:)]

Learning to body drag has other advantages other than board retrieval. It serves as a great way to get back to your spot on the beach should the wind drop(direction permitting) and you don't have enough puff to actually ride your board. Same could be said if the wind picks up that much, you can't hold an edge - just put your anchor-like body in the water and put your kite to the edge of the window - hey presto.
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
25 Nov 2005 9:03pm
look up the word your looking for is elasticity, what if you made a leash that breaks if a certain amount of pressure is placed on it?
LookUp
LookUp
WA
124 posts
WA, 124 posts
25 Nov 2005 9:14pm
Thanks for that. Now you know why I'm just a kitesurf instructor. A strain-break leash is a fine idea, although, as with kites, we'd be paying for r&d for years to come!
the duke of dork
the duke of dork
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
25 Nov 2005 9:26pm
quote:
Originally posted by LookUp

Thanks for that. Now you know why I'm just a kitesurf instructor. A strain-break leash is a fine idea, although, as with kites, we'd be paying for r&d for years to come!

the duke of dork
the duke of dork
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
25 Nov 2005 9:33pm
**** you stooge head leashes rule if you want something zinging back in your head how bout my fist cock smoker
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
25 Nov 2005 9:35pm
wtf does r&d stand for, Velcro and a short elastic with a tracking devise to locate the board then sending a team out to fetch it for you-may b I'm thinking to grand or up to a million
LookUp
LookUp
WA
124 posts
WA, 124 posts
25 Nov 2005 9:53pm
Dukey, that is no way for Royalty to talk. And if you payed more royal attention, you would see just above that I think leashes and the devil were spawned from the same vile murk.

r&d - research and development. Kites cost less than $200 to make. The excuse for the ridiculously high prices they charge for them is supposed to be the r&d that goes into them. If that means kitesurfing on prototypes for a living, I'm in the wrong job. Just the humble opinion of a cock smoking stooge head. lowly bow.
NSW, 4382 posts
27 Nov 2005 8:56am
R&D is very important, there is an immense amount of it to be done, and we should all be contributing as much as possible, by communication with..............
Actually it stands for Riding & Drinking, thats what Mambo is for!

Leashes can save a begginer a lot of frustration and time wasting.
All they need to do is wear a helemt and a vest, and make sure there is a weak link, that will break with a light load.

BUT all begginers need to know how to body drag.
LookUp
LookUp
WA
124 posts
WA, 124 posts
28 Nov 2005 8:24pm
KPA - I used to think wearing the flack gear was all cool and happily taught my students with leashes. 2 years ago, while teaching in Egypt, the unthinkable happened to another school that operated in the same resort, when a board hit a student in the neck, crushing vertebrae and almost severing nerves. He was flown back to France to undergo surgery - and thankfully he is OK and, if you can believe it, is kitesurfing today - without a leash. The school no longer exists, and the legal stuff is still going on. I know how much easier it is to get back to the board etc - but is just isn't worth the risk, even with the weak link. Peace and wind.
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
28 Nov 2005 8:45pm
Hey Snoochies. I learned with a leash, and so did my daughter...wish I had not done so, but it did save us lots of time. We wore helmets. Once I witnessed my daughter get hit in the head by her board....you should have seen the dent in the helmet... thank God it wasn't anywhere else! From that day on we did not use our leashes while learning. She had 45 min. with "Dan the Man" on getting the board..and now it is a very quick thing for her.

However, we still both carry the real leash for certain situations. Us e it to flag the board when down in bad crash...like broken line. I have also used it to pull in a guy. The real leash is a great accessory. For my purpose now I would want something much stronger and with a sort of handle, for those special occations when I might be able to put it to good use.

I would think for serious wave riding, carrying a hook knife would also be useful...in addition to the gloves and thick vest Broken lines are rare, but it is amazing how fast the free line can wrap around you
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
28 Nov 2005 10:56pm
in the land before time existed,
before instructors,
everyone wore leashes even those who were eventually to become instructors.
a lot of us were just cautious.
leashes still have their place for those who wish to use them.
e.g. those who feel uncomfortable away from their board.
admittedly they are not necessary these days,
but correctly used and understood they are no big deal!
Fitzy
Fitzy
QLD
617 posts
QLD, 617 posts
29 Nov 2005 12:29am
I second that Greenleader

Fitzy Gold Coast OZ
demus
demus
WA
42 posts
WA, 42 posts
10 Dec 2005 11:42am
Hi

No leash

Even the $120 retractible ones are still dangerous.

Used it a few times when I was learning until I ended up with a gash on my head. Body dragging upwind is easy or if you must wear a leash then put on a helmet.

Demus
jan
jan
WA
1119 posts
jan jan
WA, 1119 posts
10 Dec 2005 12:25pm
leashes = danger

they are great for us who like to say i told you so :)
bronzewing
bronzewing
WA
16 posts
WA, 16 posts
10 Dec 2005 1:16pm
as a newby ,it gives me a great sense of comfort that my board will stay with me as i,m learning,i do attatch it to a loop of cable tie
that is attatched on my harness,it will break if the tention loads up too much,everybody says dont use a leash but it would be pretty slow learning with out one
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
10 Dec 2005 2:32pm
quote:
Originally posted by bronzewing

as a newby ,it gives me a great sense of comfort that my board will stay with me as i,m learning,i do attatch it to a loop of cable tie
that is attatched on my harness,it will break if the tention loads up too much,everybody says dont use a leash but it would be pretty slow learning with out one



I used the board with a leash attached when learning, but didnt attach the leash to my self. Just incase I dropped the kite I could attach it, or when getting ready I could hold the leash.

I dont see how it would be slow learning without a leash. If you havent got the skills to body drag upwind your probably not read for the board.
Thomo
Thomo
WA
204 posts
WA, 204 posts
11 Dec 2005 7:18am
Snoochie

I learned with a leash, but wore the helmet and impact vest. I did manage to get hit a couple of time. I was put on to a system that you could keep your leash for ease of learning but very safe.

Get a small ring sewn on to your harness and attach severel small light type cable ties(X5), thats where you attach your leash. If you has a small board off no probs board will be there behind you. If you have a big stack where the board loads enough to shoot at you the small cable tie will break releasing your board, body drag to the board and attach it back to a spare cable tie. That way you you are not always chasing your board.......easy!!!!!!

Have fun!!!!
JEFFERSON
JEFFERSON
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
11 Dec 2005 8:26am
I learnt with a relatively short webbing leash and was lucky to have no serious encounters with my board as a result. I did however get pulled under water by my board submarining on one occassion.

I tell my friends these days to just get good footstraps and learn how to keep your feet in them when you fall. It is quite rare that you lose your board even in a big stack if you have good quality straps and contoured pads. Don't use straps that are too wide for your feet. If you can't hook all your toes up on the other side of the straps then the straps are too wide.

So, no leash, quality, correctly fitting straps and contoured foot pads are what I beleive to be the best and safest option. (And learn to body drag.... and don't think about all the shark stories you have just read on this forum whilst you are learning to body drag/trawl.)

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