well brezzo you're pretty scarce on details . are you fat . how many years kiting. where do you kite . what is your favourite drink .


once we know these questions we can give you a better answer

Yo, do your research a big kite strange as it seems is not a lightwind kite they are just a bigger version , a true lightwind kite is completely different, ozone zephyr, blade fat lady, north dyno,etc, sure a bigger kite will give you more time on the water, but not as much as one of the above, it'll b difficult to find a light kite for your budget but shouldn't be a problem for a big kite, good luck

cauncy said...
Yo, do your research a big kite strange as it seems is not a lightwind kite they are just a bigger version , a true lightwind kite is completely different, ozone zephyr, blade fat lady, north dyno,etc, sure a bigger kite will give you more time on the water, but not as much as one of the above, it'll b difficult to find a light kite for your budget but shouldn't be a problem for a big kite, good luck

... very true!

I've used and owned some of the older big kites in the list and they are indeed a bigger persons kite and not very efficient. They and not so good in light winds, not like the current kites but having said that, the Sector has a way of getting much more out of the older big kites.

What I found is, the Sector 'slips' through the water better than the boards being used back then when kites were being designed and makes the older kites very useable. Sort of makes up for some of the inefficiency.

A little while ago I had to bring out my old spare 16m Rebel while my current kite was being repaired. Jumped on the Sector and was suprized at the old girls performance. Then in my excitement, jumped on my TT and realized how much better my current kite was!! Back to the Sector and it was ok and had fun.

So, if your going to use the Sector, an older kite isn't such a compromise as you would think. The Sector is easy upwind, handles all sorts of water conditions, stable on all angles to the wind so therefore 'soaks' up the mis-givings of the older big kites.

Mind you, when you have the money, get something new and you'll be really happy.

Goodluck,

Robbie

Goodtime In Brisbane have a couple of 17 m 07 contra bows going cheap!

I wouldn't expect much more power from a 2008 North rebel 16m compared to a powerful 2013, 13m kite. The size to power ratio is not as linear as most people think once you get above about 12m kites. With a powerful 10m current year kite I'm able to kite (82kg) on my sector 60 v.2 in as little as 10-12 knots. Sure I'm moving the kite like a maniac and downlooping a lot, but it can be done. Whatever minimum wind your current kite is allowing you to kite in on your twin tip, you should be able to use your sector in as little as 4-5 knots below that. If not, then it's more about building up your skills than changing kite size. Make sure you can jibe the sector comfortably in lighter winds as well. With great skills on the sector at your body weight you should be able to kite in as little as 10 knots with a powerful 13m current year kite. A current year 17m light wind kite might get you out on your sector in as little as 7 knots with line extensions, but then you have to make sure your kite doesn't touch the water...
So the bottom line is I would recommend you focus on improving your light wind skills with your current gear with the goal of getting out in less and less wind, then maybe consider getting a larger kite.

brezzo said...
ie will an 08 16m get me out in less breeze than a 13m 2013 kite?
yes, i compared a 05 15m and 12 13m and the 15 wins..........

SaveTheWhales said...
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I have the 2011 model which is actually a 15m and can vouch for its allrounder performance and ...... RELAUNCH.. dont forget

Relaunch is sort of a non-issue. If you are truly riding in light winds then the absolute number one requirement is to never crash your kite. Nothing will relaunch when the wind as at the lower limit of riding.

If you do crash your kite the best you can hope for is to have a nice relaxing float and wait until a gust comes along. It's actually quite pleasant, especially if you have a buoyancy vest.

Alternatively, self rescue with a raceboard is loads of fun. You lie in your kite and use the board and fins as dagger board. You can sail quite close to the the wind at about the same speed and angle as one of those tiny sailing dinghies.

BTW In my experience the bottom end of the North Rebel is not so good. That is supported by reviews I have read. On numerous occasions I have been out riding and going upwind when guys with Rebels of similar size could not get off the beach.

Gorgo said...

SaveTheWhales said...
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I have the 2011 model which is actually a 15m and can vouch for its allrounder performance and ...... RELAUNCH.. dont forget

Relaunch is sort of a non-issue. If you are truly riding in light winds then the absolute number one requirement is to never crash your kite. Nothing will relaunch when the wind as at the lower limit of riding.

Fair enough Coment - but Please - dont believe me at all even though my one relaunches in 6 knots according to the hand held windmeter :)

Just look up the video launching at 4.5 knots and read the reviews Kiteworld/SBC

That gives me the confidence to trick & crash and make mistakes on my twin tip then relaunch again.
Before I bought it, Id say Fk off to light wind relaunches

Why would you want to Self Rescue if you could relaunch that low ??
Unless you dont know any better

Kites are Evolving but perhaps not the Kiters

Just bought a 2012 Zephyr - will post a propper review when I get a chance to use it!

dusta said...
are you fat .

hahahahaha