Just get the KKK to send over Mcbridle once these guys realise he can't tell if your going towards him or away from him they will keep out of his way or suffer the consequences .

Doesn't matter what happens it's always your fault and he soughts you out.

Remember the quote in kiteboarder mag ,At KKK beware of the groynes the sea urchins and Mcbridle!

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Originally posted by ricardo

Just get the KKK to send over Mcbridle once these guys realise he can't tell if your going towards him or away from him they will keep out of his way or suffer the consequences .

Doesn't matter what happens it's always your fault and he soughts you out.

Remember the quote in kiteboarder mag ,At KKK beware of the groynes the sea urchins and Mcbridle!

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Oi know Ric, oi know aye. Vese cuuns don know oo vere dealin wif aye. Wha vey dunno is Oi can get over vere in unda 18 minutes on my professional racing push boik... an vats wif me, bruised ribs, sore black n blue bollocks an one eye tied behind me crook back... faster if va chicks see me abs an star chasin me. In my younger days when oi were a black belt, oi cood take noin at once but now oi reckon free or four might be me limit. What was we takin about again ?

PS: can we talk abou me some more ?

PS 2: oi know

In regard to the reckless kiter, is he breaking the law?
Certainly he needs to be made aware that what he is doing is dangerous if he isnt already aware, but until he breaks a law, then there is little anyone can do. I'm not sure the kite mafia idea is such a good one. The beach is public domain.

Yes WB, 110% he is breaking the law.
NSW maritime has classified kitesurfers as vessels.
There are "distance off" laws.
There are negligent navigation laws.

Those 2 are plenty for him to be prosecuted by the authorities, there were several witnesses. There are other laws too.

All it takes is for someone to press for chargeds to be laid. If the student were injured......................

Think about it, a total ban on kiting in Botany Bay.

Because of the selfish attitude and carelessness of two individuals, and one in particular in this case.

Something needs to be done about these two.

Cya and

Goodwinds

steve

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In regard to the reckless kiter, is he breaking the law?
Certainly he needs to be made aware that what he is doing is dangerous if he isnt already aware, but until he breaks a law, then there is little anyone can do. I'm not sure the kite mafia idea is such a good one. The beach is public domain.

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Yes WB, 110% he is breaking the law.

All it takes is for someone to press for charges to be laid.

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Well Steve,
If it was your student at risk and you say you've got witnesses,
why don't you lay charges ?

I wonder how Judge Judy would rule on this matter ?

If he broke the laws, then report it to the police, and trust that the powers that be will recognize the offenders actions as the actions of one individual, and not the general trend of a whole community.

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I wonder how Judge Judy would rule on this matter ?

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LOL

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If he broke the laws, then report it to the police, and trust that the powers that be will recognize the offenders actions as the actions of one individual, and not the general trend of a whole community.

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I agree. There appear to be genuine laws to prevent this sort of thing so why not use them. I'm not going to go up to someone breaking into a car and ask them to please stop hahaha.

What will naming and shaming someone do? They will just tell you to get ****ed. Thats if they even read this forum.

I don't see any harm in making it clear to everyone who these two people are.....that way we can all avoid them if they're on the water, which I personally would prefer to have the knowledge for. I also agree that the appropriate action with the law is good way to put a fire cracker up their backsides.

Why are people so keen to withold their names......is it because when you're caught out you don't want to be highlighted as being careless and dangerous?

There is absolutely NO excuse for any kiter to be behaving in this manner and I would happily say that to their faces as I've done with many people on the beach before.

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MMMMMMMM-DDDDDDDD I wonder who it could be

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THINKING,THINKING,THINKING

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Been flying over noobs on the bay?

only Galah's and kn Flies

Fook this, aye can't take it anymore !!!!

Marty and Duncan have done nothing but cause trouble on every beach they've been to. One was responsible for the ban on Kiting at Bondi and they are the reason Kiters are hated at Maroubra. They come down to Dolls because they are not wanted any where else.

Don't bother approaching either of these two for a quiet word of reason... people have been trying for a long time. Because they consider themselves hero/pro kiters, no one can tell them what to do or to wear safety leashes without getting the "I'll do what ever I want- go get fooked, what are ya gonna do about it" attitude.

I don't think there is much we can do about attention seeking heroes like Marty and Duncan... they are just too good to listen to anyone or consider the continuous implications of their repeatedly stupid, dangerous and selfish "look at me" antics. They both fly Cabrinha Bow kites... most regulars are wary of them already. Get someone to point them out so you can try to avoid them which can be difficult because they think they own the beach. Don't assist them in launching or landing.... that just makes it easier for them to endanger others and get our sport banned.

Nothing has worked before... Can anyone suggest how to get these guys to understand ???

It may be, but I for one, as a non-cockroach with no local knowlegdge of the place, am grateful to know this as now I know who to look out for if I ever do go kiting in Sydney.

Hi all,

Not sure if this is related or not but we all had trouble one time recently with some mental case trying to get noticed at Dolls Pt.

This dude had incidents with 3 kiters that I know of in that single session, and scared the **** out of some children trying to play on the edge of the water. He didnt seem to care about anything said to him about the danger he was causing but did seem like a very experienced kiter (trying doubles and triples etc)... right next to the beach, in between swimmers, and on top of other kiters.

This guy was on crossbows I think. He had obviously had pumped a few too many steriods and way, way too much fake tan. Dont know if hes a friend of these 2 other menaces but he should be named and shamed so that he can either be talked to or avoided for safety reasons.

I very rarely kite at Dolls Pt but according to the other guys he compromised, he was a regular offender and regular Dolls Pt kiter. Can any one shed any light on our Musclular Big Brown Legend from Dolls Pt ? Is he a regular problem too ?

I hate to think what would happen if he had hit one of those children whilst backroll kite looping at the waters edge... it was a near miss as it was. I apologise if this was a one time incident. But from the comments around at the time, it seemed it was one of many incidents caused by him. Sorry if this is not the case.

From what I have read on this thread, it seems like the 3 nuts so far mentioned are the typical 1 in a 1000 cases. So if there are 1000 kiters in Kanga Land, then they are all far from WA thank goodness!

I bet its a wet t-shirt from all his crying !