To all Mullaloo and Perth kiters coming to the Joondalup Briefing Session tonight…

It is important that kiters as a group do not create ‘bad blood’ for the Council to witness. We all know how much is invested in the beach and the issue for kiters but we must present a united, cohesive front and whilst we do not agree, in fact, we most vehemently disagree with the dreaded Option 2, our behaviour will be under the spot light tonight (yes, again, still, always).

We know that the City of Joondalup, and the forces of darkness aligned against us have been reading the posts over the past few days. We know they will expect a rabble. We know we are not a rabble, so let’s not give them what they are expecting.

We have a coherent and sensible message for the Council tonight – let’s not let any emotional attachment to Mullaloo get in the way of working for a positive outcome tonight and next Tuesday - the decision this council makes next Tuesday may have national implications for all kiters.

Looking forward to seeing many WAKSA/Mullaloo/Perth kiters at the meeting tonight – let our numbers show how much Mullaloo means to all Perth kiters.

regards

Your WAKSA committee

Eating my dinner now and ill be on my way.

Your not missing anything yet.

its still going

Are they passing a verdict tonight ?

Hi Peeps,

I thought the night went as well as we could have hoped for. Dave and Justin spoke well and articulated most points reasonably well considering the short amount of time to prepare and limited resources we had to work with since finding out about the meeting and the councils preferred direction. Especially seeing as we were restricted to only two deputations and held to 5 minutes each. (With the exception of the old dude from Sorrento tennis club who seemed to waffle on for days )

Well done to all who spoke or asked questions, and in particular to young Zac Brueker (J2) just 14 years old. J2 addressed the Mayor and councillors and spoke well, he managed to get across some great and valid point supporting our case. Well done Junior, you did us all proud! Much respect

Thanks to everyone who put in a bunch of work, gave up their time tonight to attend and had to sit in the foyer through over crowding, sent emails, made phone calls, called in favours and lobbied anyone with a sympathetic ear. I believe the councillors know without a shadow of a doubt, that Kitesurfers will definately not be happy about Option 2 (complete ban) and that we are an intelligent and relatively organised group of passionate enthusiasts willing to work towards an outcome which addresses (almost) everyones needs.

We all did our best. Now we wait ........

DM

How do you get your grass so green Louie?

I'm not surprised at the stance of the Mullaloo Surf club at all as since they have been the key influential voice against us from the beginning when it started some 3 years ago when we started moving further north down the beach to accommodate them.
Notably last night they tried pushing the safety banner sighting certain incidents that have supposedly occurred in the past and they are as they are just allegations and weak at best.I think she totaled 3 incidents over the whole time, one that was legit , the others well I doubt personally.
I also thought she was slanderous towards Rob Gannon saying he operated an unsafe business, what a b1tch I wished I had a rotten cabbage on hand right then!

I did enjoy the rebuttal comment from one of the council members when they said and I quote. "So given this small frequency of supposed kiting incidents and given that surfing and boogie board incidents are in the 100's every year do you also consider banning these sports in the future as well?"

To say there is no considered compromise by the surf club is nothing new it would be funny though if say kite surfers started en mass joining the club, that would mix things up a bit, but my opinion of there stance on us would never allow me to sit in the same room with them, hell I was annoyed as it was just listening to that stupid Helen woman and her hand bag man last night let alone putting up with that sh1t on a weekly basis.

Also given that the option reply was manipulated by council at the 30th Aug meeting it was good to see that rectified to state that we as a group would consider either of option 1 or 3 .

Great speaking last night by Justin and Dave,I hope the outcome of this is a positive one because I'm not going to any other beach regardless of the decision and I really don't think it fair to be personally put into that position.

Hope Rob sues the lady's(?) arse off and then some more!

Had lessons with Rob and he was superior in every way to 2 other instructors I tried (from other areas in Perf).

I recomend him highly and he floggs the safety message HARD.

If she cannot produce proof - surely she is guilty of slander?

They stated clearly that their prefence was option 2-A total ban. Hardly fair and reasonable in my view.

Good night and great turn out, great work to all of those who attended.

I feel the discussion went relatively well with the guys who spoke on the behalf of us as a whole doing a great job, the councillors generally remaining open minded and willingness of the MSLC to compromise was duly noted.

However it still baffles me on how Option 2 has made it to the race. The consultation process has been flawed and this has continued into the collation and reporting of results. For example Option 2 (total ban) in the report lists pros as 83% and 73% support from the random sample and the general public respectively. How the hell can they come up with these figures when the public were never asked to comment on a total exclusions zone. Sure 83% and 73% may support exclusion zones in general, hell most of us do too, but to relate these figures directly to this option is unsubstantiated. I am sure that if this option was presented to the general public the results would have been different. Unfortunately the City has taken it upon themselves to manipulate the results to support their recommendation.

The fight will continue.

little o said...

THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J

Was there any discussion of how they will enforce the ban if option two is chosen?

Yep have to agree, Justin, Dave, Darren, Alex, Zac, Ray, Phil and any others? that spoke did a great job, thanks guys.

I would like to think that the council would have to agree to at least give option 1 or 3 a trial this season.

puppetonastring said...

.....I didnt actually hear them come down on the side of option 2?.....

Although most of what the MSLSC said was fairly unbiased and reasonable they definitely said they preferred option 2.

FOT said...

.......I agree with the comments on the absolute lack of consultation on Option 2 (a complete ban on kiting, which is very different from exclusion zones which we were 'consulted' on). It was a bit rich for the Mayor to state that the session last night constituted community consultation for Option 2.......

I also find it hard to believe that option 2 is even being considered without any real community consultation.
If last nights session constituted community consultation I think the community was at least 90% against it.

I think that yesterday at the briefing session went as well as we could have hoped. That said we are far from being over the finishing line and WAKSA and Mullaloo Kiters User Group will be working every day on this issue. My advice would be to keep any anti-council / anti-surfclub feelings to yourselves and not to post them on public forum during a 'delicate' week.

Flux, I think you are confusing the surf club with the Mullaloo Beach Community Forum (or whatever they are called). The surf club in general presented a reasonable stance and were not especially anti-kiting. They reported on issues within their database and although they did say they preferred option 2, they only did so when pushed by the councillors for their stance.

One thing which is very clear, IF we do get a result and we are able to kite on Mullaloo this season, the behaviour of ALL kiters at Mullaloo will be under the spotlight, therefore no matter what ability level / confidence level / cockiness level kiters at Mullaloo will have to stick to the rules and prove to the councillors that we can share the beach. If they don't we won't be having this argument next year as the council will simply ban us.

Cheers
Dave
Mullaloo Kiters User Group

Just consider that the guy from the opposition was quoting and misquoting from the WAKSA website, so he may he is writing stuff on Seabreeze as well, was that you GET FUNKY?