My Last Will and Testament

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blokey
blokey
WA
36 posts
WA, 36 posts
29 Dec 2008 10:36pm
Firstly I apologise to animal lovers out there for the comments I'm about to make and I understand everyone has different feelings and opinions and these happen to be mine.

In response to the tragic death of the snorkeller in safety bay who was taken by a shark, I fully respect the family's wish for the shark to be left alone as it's his natural hunting ground and what the poor dude would have wanted..... however my last will and testament should I happen to be a tasty home delivery for a shark and die kiting is, that the bloody creature be hunted down, killed and beheaded with its head stuck on a pole on the beach where I was taken as warning for his sharky mates thinking about getting in on the action. I'm not joking.

I understand I'm in his territory, I understand its natural animal hunting instinct, however, apart from one off's we are higher on the food chain and they need to respect that.

I have told a few of my friends this today and they said they would have no part in this so I thought I would get it down in writing.
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
29 Dec 2008 11:38pm
...hmmm first you might need to identify the major cause of violent death of humans.....guess what / who are they...?...(a clue: sharks are not)......then see what you can do about it....
...there are thousands of sharks are slaughtered daily....sure you can join the mob for your satisfaction....
Ptussy
Ptussy
WA
86 posts
WA, 86 posts
30 Dec 2008 12:01am
I think that plan might be doing his sharky mates a favour. Not to mention the illegalities. I say let them swim.
And are we really higher on the food chain (outside of the local fish and chip shop?)? As a surfer or kiter I've never felt higher.
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
30 Dec 2008 1:10am
I'm not an animal lover per-se, but if I get eaten that's my bad luck, no point getting angry with the shark. It has to eat too.
newo
newo
WA
250 posts
WA, 250 posts
30 Dec 2008 4:46am
eat more shark fin dumplings at yum cha!
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
QLD, 6160 posts
30 Dec 2008 8:41am
once a big shark has crossed the line of it's natural suspicion of a human and eaten one it's got to go IMHO. Like a dog that bites. Once it starts doing it it's more likely to do it again.
Kite This
Kite This
WA
62 posts
WA, 62 posts
30 Dec 2008 7:47am
myusernam said...

once a big shark has crossed the line of it's natural suspicion of a human and eaten one it's got to go IMHO. Like a dog that bites. Once it starts doing it it's more likely to do it again.


I'd like to see the evidence supporting your claim... Or are you a shark whisperer??
Kalavas
Kalavas
WA
146 posts
WA, 146 posts
30 Dec 2008 8:00am
I'm all for the killing of a shark that attacks me, but only if it can be done BEFORE it attacks me.

[}:)]
average Joe
average Joe
NSW
18 posts
NSW, 18 posts
30 Dec 2008 10:17am
blokey said...

that the bloody creature be hunted down, killed and beheaded with its head stuck on a pole on the beach where I was taken as warning for his sharky mates thinking about getting in on the action. I'm not joking.

I understand I'm in his territory, I understand its natural animal hunting instinct, however, apart from one off's we are higher on the food chain and they need to respect that.


Mate, have you defended chopping the tree into which Peter Brock crashed too?

bigmark100
bigmark100
NSW
584 posts
NSW, 584 posts
30 Dec 2008 10:26am
perhaps the turkey you ate at christmas might be hoping your head is chopped off and placed in the turkey pen as a warning to other humans next xmas... and the rest of your body is chopped up and fed to the other turkeys.

mind you with your poor respect for other life on the planet - perhaps you might be mistaken for a turkey.
coreyb
coreyb
WA
463 posts
WA, 463 posts
30 Dec 2008 9:56am
No one is saying lets kill all sharks, just the big ones after they have attacked someone. Why are sharks the only animal people want to leave alone after they attack a human?
A dogs territory is its back yard, if it attacks a person its put down.
If a crock attacks a person in its territory, its hunted and killed
If any animal except for a shark attacks a person it is put down.

Where is the proof that this isnt the same few sharks taking their yearly run down the coast. It makes logical sense that it is. It has had an easy feed down the coast before and knows it can get one again.

I dont think we are high on menu, but we are on it. If a big shark attacks someone, it is time to go. They bite once to let you die for an easy meal. We usually get to shore before they finish the job.

We dont live in a world of natural balance any more, its a fact. Why are we pretending we do?


phrase
phrase
WA
228 posts
WA, 228 posts
30 Dec 2008 10:45am
Not sure what should be done. But I`m off to my local dive shop to buy a big knife, hopefully I`ll be able to go out with a fight and Mr Sharky will think twice about attacking another human.
au_rick
au_rick
WA
752 posts
WA, 752 posts
30 Dec 2008 12:54pm
funny how we percieve things isn't it,...
there's picture of the poor guy who got taken on the front page of yesterday's paper holding up a very nice red emperor, which he presumably killed and then ate.
maybe it's karma, or maybe the shark was just a good friend of said fish ?

maybe all the people calling for shark culling are vegetarians (if not then you should all have a think about it the next time you eat an animal that was killed to be you dinner)
Hunter S
Hunter S
WA
516 posts
WA, 516 posts
30 Dec 2008 1:19pm
We're all a meal for the Gods
Era
Era
WA
86 posts
Era Era
WA, 86 posts
30 Dec 2008 1:23pm
Kite This said...

myusernam said...

once a big shark has crossed the line of it's natural suspicion of a human and eaten one it's got to go IMHO. Like a dog that bites. Once it starts doing it it's more likely to do it again.


I'd like to see the evidence supporting your claim... Or are you a shark whisperer??


Closed port kennedy again today as two fishmen and other witnesses said a great white was thrashing around there dingy, sameone maybe????
Era
Era
WA
86 posts
Era Era
WA, 86 posts
30 Dec 2008 1:27pm
i wonder if there is such a thing like a shark sheild but 100 times the size, couldnt they be bouyed out in the bays around summertime to scare off the sharks, could be run with solar pannel's ps if anyone makes $ n this idea i want 10%
Kite This
Kite This
WA
62 posts
WA, 62 posts
30 Dec 2008 3:05pm
Era said...

Kite This said...

myusernam said...

once a big shark has crossed the line of it's natural suspicion of a human and eaten one it's got to go IMHO. Like a dog that bites. Once it starts doing it it's more likely to do it again.


I'd like to see the evidence supporting your claim... Or are you a shark whisperer??


Closed port kennedy again today as two fishmen and other witnesses said a great white was thrashing around there dingy, sameone maybe????



Like I said before I'd like to see the evidence supporting your claim! Or is there only one white shark in the area?
Hedges
Hedges
NT
54 posts
NT, 54 posts
30 Dec 2008 4:19pm
If you kill it in 'self defence' then thats fair to me but just because its nailed you doesnt mean we need to take revenge on them. As allot of us are sayin we are in their domain and once we step in the water we know the 'potential' risks.

btw Crocs generally get relocated if they are menacing or have taken someone
Dogs......well we dont keep Sharks as pets do we.
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
30 Dec 2008 4:21pm
Us humans are a sad lot, degenerate living in the western society, the shark has had an easy feed, and is hanging around for more, you can teach a mouse, a worm or a gold fish where to get its food, so this shark has learnt nothing?
60% say let the shark live and 20% want it killed.
Im with the minority, no probs, fish and chips for me tonight!!!

So if we are so good hearted, why dont we leave this continent for its original inhabitants then, guess we dont belong here either
Era
Era
WA
86 posts
Era Era
WA, 86 posts
30 Dec 2008 5:15pm
Kite This said...

Era said...

Kite This said...

myusernam said...

once a big shark has crossed the line of it's natural suspicion of a human and eaten one it's got to go IMHO. Like a dog that bites. Once it starts doing it it's more likely to do it again.


I'd like to see the evidence supporting your claim... Or are you a shark whisperer??


Closed port kennedy again today as two fishmen and other witnesses said a great white was thrashing around there dingy, sameone maybe????



Like I said before I'd like to see the evidence supporting your claim! Or is there only one white shark in the area?



Im just saying it would be a fair chance that it would be the same shark, unless port kennedy is the new happening spot for the all the cool sharks to hang out.
Era
Era
WA
86 posts
Era Era
WA, 86 posts
30 Dec 2008 5:32pm
Hedges said...

If you kill it in 'self defence' then thats fair to me but just because its nailed you doesnt mean we need to take revenge on them. As allot of us are sayin we are in their domain and once we step in the water we know the 'potential' risks.

Oh sure i always carry a 12g shotgun on my back when im kiting, its right beside my rocklauncher just incase i see a terroist, ill be sure to kill it in 'self defence' if it's following me

land/water it doesnt matter stop using the old "if we enter their domain we take the risk's" risk's should be minimised it the water like we do on land, if its the same shark that was having a go at the dingy in port kennedy i think it should be removed, stuffed and put on the wall like the signing bass.....maybe singing "why cant we be friends"
colinwill78
colinwill78
VIC
1395 posts
VIC, 1395 posts
30 Dec 2008 8:41pm
I would like the head of anyone/thing that kills me, put up on a stake too please.
That goes for drunk drivers, speeders, kook kiters, bad doctors, machine operators, food preparationists, vengeful ex's. I don't care who's territory they do it in. Die you Col killing scum.



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SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
30 Dec 2008 7:44pm
Blaaa Blaaa Blaaa

The food chain starts in waist deep water

Wrap yourself in cotton wool before kiteing so youll taste like Marsh Mello

myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
QLD, 6160 posts
30 Dec 2008 9:11pm
Kite This said...

myusernam said...

once a big shark has crossed the line of it's natural suspicion of a human and eaten one it's got to go IMHO. Like a dog that bites. Once it starts doing it it's more likely to do it again.


I'd like to see the evidence supporting your claim... Or are you a shark whisperer??

like i said buddy IMHO in my humble opinion. Just stating what makes sense to me. sharks are naturally very cautious. But occasionally I think there might be one that didn't learn all the lessons it should have, or is a bit mental or something. If this lack of caution or suspicion of strange prey leads them to a succesfull meal then I would suspect that they might learn or adapt to doing it again. From what I've seen in docos and stuff they can quicly adapt. For example they seem to be pretty tuned onto following trawlers - hanging around them in anchorages and stuff. Is this not a learned behavior or adapting? Is it really worth the risk? Do we have to prove that they are more likely to repeat offend before we take action. Like smoking - no one could prove it was bad for you, but their was a lot of suspicion.
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
QLD, 6160 posts
30 Dec 2008 9:15pm
RayQ said...

Us humans are a sad lot, degenerate living in the western society, the shark has had an easy feed, and is hanging around for more, you can teach a mouse, a worm or a gold fish where to get its food, so this shark has learnt nothing?
60% say let the shark live and 20% want it killed.
Im with the minority, no probs, fish and chips for me tonight!!!



what he said bunch af land right for gay whale tree huggin pinkos
T one
T one
NT
321 posts
NT, 321 posts
30 Dec 2008 9:25pm
quote "I would like the head of anyone/thing that kills me, put up on a stake too please."


i'm with you Col... kill it - stuff it - and hang it at my wake... the crew can open their beers with it's teeth...

oh, and hedges, u missed out today buddy.... wooo hoooo[}:)]
Hedges
Hedges
NT
54 posts
NT, 54 posts
30 Dec 2008 11:16pm
T ONE .....ha ha didnt miss much I had 25-30 down here but froze my nuts off !! 10 DOS rocks.....

we can always use the beer openers cant we so maybe im leaning back the other way a little.......
Dawn Patrol
Dawn Patrol
WA
1991 posts
WA, 1991 posts
30 Dec 2008 11:11pm
Any stats or evidence anywhere ever that suggests a shark that has eaten a person once will attack again?
Fact is we are bad for their digestion, so the sharks that do take a bite would be more likely to not attack again (thats what i think of it).


And umm i don't think we are higher in the food chain. Wanna have a fight with a white pointer, with nothing but a pair of speedos?
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
30 Dec 2008 11:19pm
...this is getting like....riding a drunk donkey.....
....the greatest enemy of humans are humans (get the statistics)....now, you revengeful, righteous sweethearts: Do you want to kill them all?
elizabethb
elizabethb
QLD
2081 posts
QLD, 2081 posts
31 Dec 2008 12:26am
Simple.

Just look at the statistics of shark related attacks and then deaths from these attacks, then compare that to car accidents and deaths from car accidents.

Which is more prevalent and more of a concern for the entire population?

Therefore, it is self explanatory where the time, money and energy should be spent.

Australia, as of Feb 2008, has had 103 total shark attacks, 38 of those fatalities and the last fatality in 2006. Stats from 1700 and 2008.
ANOTHER website says 650.... EVEN if 1000 attacks per year, and say 5 deaths per year...
ANOTHER "In the last 50 years, there have been only 60 human fatalities (1.2 per year) in Australian waters from shark attack. "
http://www.taronga.org.au/tcsa/conservation-programs/australian-shark-attack-file.aspx


I know this is the States but...

6 420 000 car accidents in 2005 2 900 000 were injured 42 36 were killed 115 people die everyday in the US. One death every 13 minutes


NOW compare the relevance of each statistic, and tell me where logically and mathematically time, money and energy should be spent!?
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
30 Dec 2008 11:44pm
elizabethb said...

Simple.

Just look at the statistics of shark related attacks and then deaths from these attacks, then compare that to car accidents and deaths from car accidents.

Which is more prevalent and more of a concern for the entire population?

Therefore, it is self explanatory where the time, money and energy should be spent.


NOW compare the relevance of each statistic, and tell me where logically and mathematically time, money and energy should be spent!?


...yes...and add to this statistics the wars and terrors when humans on one side were convinced that those thousands or millions killed on the other side had to die....and those thousands of children dieing in preventable diseases every day because they cannot afford vaccination....
......ohhh, please, don't fall that easily to emotional manipulation......someone is earning big dollars daily on your fallible heart....
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