Naish 6'1" vs. North 6'0" ?

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peter_w
peter_w
NSW
68 posts
NSW, 68 posts
15 Oct 2007 8:02am
Has anyone tried both of these boards?
How do they compare?
I had a go on the North on the weekend in wind that was too light :-( and felt that it might be too small for me as it seemed to bog down a bit with out power but we had pretty weak wind and waves so it was hard to tell. Of the turns i did manage to get out of it, it did feel better than the similar Cabrina model (having said that the Cab seems to plane earlier).

Thanks,

Pete
Surfrod66
Surfrod66
NSW
665 posts
NSW, 665 posts
15 Oct 2007 9:22am
Hi Was it rods board that you tried!He is a great guy riggin kites and letting everyone try his new board and kite.He has now replaced the fins with fcs fins and the board goes up wind better and starts as early as the 6'2' cabrinha.
Ryland
Ryland
WA
1222 posts
WA, 1222 posts
15 Oct 2007 7:22am
haven't ridden either but the 08 6'2 sst slingshot board is prety sweet. and i can paddle it easily too and it rides good as a surfboard. well worth a look. super loose board. and nice graphics too finish it off.
peter_w
peter_w
NSW
68 posts
NSW, 68 posts
15 Oct 2007 2:32pm
Yes Rod it was your board, and yes you are a champ.

Good to hear about the fins (is there some sort of packer), too bad it is going to add ~$100 to the board price.

Still keen to try the Naish...

Ry, didn't even realise that SS had at 6'2", maybe they need to update their website...
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
15 Oct 2007 12:44pm
try the airush converse aswell while ur busy
peter_w
peter_w
NSW
68 posts
NSW, 68 posts
15 Oct 2007 7:55pm
The Converse 6'4" looks alright.

Has anyone ridden one of these and/or know what the difference between the wood and normal versions are?

Thanks.

Pete.
JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
16 Oct 2007 3:11pm
Hi all,

I have ridden the Naish 6'1" CR & the North 5'9" RF (on the same day, same kite, review is in the review section). Both board are amazing. I found the CR looser and easier to turn really hard and tight, and the RF liked a more drawn out turn. The North kicks arse for shelf appeal, looks really sweet. I would say that the RF would suit more powerful waves and longer drawn out lines, were the CR is a bit boatier (thicker in the Tail) and loves being thrown around into tight turns and powerful carves. Both boards are by far the best wave boards in that size and catagory I have ever ridden. The 5'5" Naish fish stills kicks it for small crappy conditions, and I've heard (haven't had a chance to try it yet) North Freestyle fish is much the same but with a new school twist! Definately worth a test drive!

Regards,

JB
Auswind
Auswind
WA
398 posts
WA, 398 posts
16 Oct 2007 2:20pm
try every thing - then get a ride on the airush converse 6'0 - hands down the best cross over kite/surfboard on the market

Drivey, control at speed, throws buckets , not too flat and stiff -like so many PRETEND surfboards on the market - it actually has proper tail rocker - trust me on this - anything too flat out of the tail WILL NOT do the smooth top turn snap you are visualising - you went to a lot of work to get your board and body into the pocket - such a waste if your board lets you down in this -the most magical part of the wave.

Heres a quick way to get an idea if your surfboard will have any chance of working- (This is assuming that the manufacturer was able to get the rail foil and progressive edge blend out from the tail through the mid section of the board right)-check out your tail rocker on any surfboard that you buy - the back thruster should look like its bent upwards just a touch- 11mm seems to be the magic number for nice tail rocker without creating too much drag. As i said before - anything too flat out of the tail will bog or skip in a driven pocket turn - guaranteed.

the converse 6'0 blew Felix Pivec away - and he tests alot of different surfboards - he simply did not believe a production surfboard could be that good- he rated it as good as any of the customs he has ever tried.

here is a clip of the 6'0 in action - throwin some buckets!!

http://www.kiteworld.tv/virtual-kiting-with-matt-holder/

I havent ridden the converse 6'4 yet but have heard good things




vasco
vasco
21 posts
21 posts
16 Oct 2007 7:26pm
Hi JB

Thanks for the short review.

I'm looking for a one board quiver, naish 6'1 and RF 6'0 are options.
I mainly ride moderate, sometimes high, side-onshore winds (down the line surfing), occasionally side or on.
Knee high to overhead 1/2 Beachbreak.
I'm currently riding RF 07 5'5, 17 1/3, but i feel the board small for my weight (82kg-180lbs),
I'm looking for something more floaty and less stiff, that also can perform well in higher winds (i have some surfing background).
What would you suggest?
BTW I ride 08 Rebels 10&7 on 20m lines.

Best winds
peter_w
peter_w
NSW
68 posts
NSW, 68 posts
16 Oct 2007 11:00pm
Thanks JB.

I have ridden the 5'5" and really liked it, but unfortunately I can only afford 1 board. I am looking for something to replace my normal surf boards (as they tend to get beat up pretty quick with the kite), and also I wanted something with straps and a little bit less volume for those the bigger days (I usually ride a board somewhere around 6'6" as I am heavy - 90+kgs).

Is there a difference in the durability between the North and Naish?

Auswind do you know anyone around Sydney who is demoing the Converse boards? Any idea how the boards compare regarding durability with the North and Naish boards?

Cheers,

Pete.
JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
17 Oct 2007 12:51pm
Hi Guys,

The Naish CR 6'1" is probably a little more floaty than the North RF as it is a bit thicker the whole length of the board. My opinion the CR suit smaller (up to head high) better than the RF, but the RF would be preferable in the real big and windy stuff. Has a more drawn out line of carve and seems to be easier to control at speed, but not as loose as the CR.

Regards,

JB
vasco
vasco
21 posts
21 posts
17 Oct 2007 6:50pm
Thanks JB.

I ride a lot in highwind and headhigh so maybe I will go for the RF as a one board quiver.
Hausey
Hausey
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
18 Oct 2007 12:03am
Any idea how the boards compare regarding durability with the North and Naish boards?

About a year ago I got my hands on the 6'0" Converse and broke it on the first day. The first foot or so of the nose creased - maybe it was damaged in transit - but just pushing through the waves creased it badly. It was the basic model and was replaced to East Coast Boardriders. So thanks to the importer.

The board felt nice - though I would recommend getting the stronger wood deck version.
JB
JB
NSW
2232 posts
JB JB
NSW, 2232 posts
18 Oct 2007 6:44am
Between the Naish CR and the North RF, the RF is more durable. Naish have gone for a new construction this year which brings the board as close to Polyester feel as possible. It has a wood laminate on the deck from the tail to the front foot to disperse load generated by your feet, the rest of the board is kept as light as possible, still much stringer than a poly board, but probably lighter than what your used to. Now the board is plenty strong enough to handle normal use. I am 95 kgs, and just rode my CR 6'1" yesterday in 20 - 30 knots and at least over head to over head and a half, not an impression to be seen (unusual for me, I'm very hard on boards), but if you go jumping it and flat landing it there is always going to be the possibility that you can break or crease it, but this is the same I would imagine with any wave board. The RF is slightly strong in general, and probably a little heavier also. The 2007 RF was probably built too strong if anything, so the 2008 has been constructed with a new Foam core and slightly lighter glass job, also trying to get as close to the poly board feel.

Both board are built and tested to be able to handle the conditions and purpose they were built for. We are getting to a stage in Kiteboarding were we are demanding such performance from our waveboards that we have to start thinking of them as slightly stronger surfboards, they will break if you do something stupid, but used correctly will deliver the performance and durability you require to rip it up in the surf.

Regards,

JB
vasco
vasco
21 posts
21 posts
19 Oct 2007 6:58pm
quote:
Originally posted by rodkite

He has now replaced the fins with fcs fins and the board goes up wind better and starts as early as the 6'2' cabrinha.



The boxes are mini tutle, how did you do it?

Thanks
vasco
vasco
21 posts
21 posts
19 Oct 2007 8:03pm
I already find the adaptor, NSP has it.
JB what kind of FCS fins do you recommend?

Thanks
Surfrod66
Surfrod66
NSW
665 posts
NSW, 665 posts
22 Oct 2007 12:49pm
I am running med size JS template fins about the same size as the original fins but with a bit more rake, nice stiff base with just a bit of flex off on the tip. Rod
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