Naish ARX

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coastflyer
coastflyer
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
21 Oct 2012 9:16am
Just wondering, what was this model of kite like in it's day? And how old would this setup be?

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/jupiter-creek/surfing/kite-surfing-set-up/1005017979#
winddude
winddude
WA
92 posts
WA, 92 posts
21 Oct 2012 7:25am
12 years old mate, they did not turn!
hargs
hargs
QLD
634 posts
QLD, 634 posts
21 Oct 2012 9:52am
I think there is one too many zero's in the asking price unless the cars included too.
youngbull
youngbull
QLD
826 posts
QLD, 826 posts
21 Oct 2012 1:29pm
Don't get it. You will be on the news

JBFletch
JBFletch
QLD
1287 posts
QLD, 1287 posts
21 Oct 2012 2:00pm
i learnt on one, (a 9.5m tho)

it was the biggest death trap.

apart from taking 4hrs to pump up the stupidly large leading edge, it could not be water relaunched (i think i did once), it couldn't be depowered and it wouldnt turn.

the guy should be paying you to take it, definately not worth $600.

offer him $50 and a pickup.
SugarQube
SugarQube
WA
490 posts
WA, 490 posts
21 Oct 2012 1:28pm
coastflyer said...

Just wondering, what was this model of kite like in it's day? And how old would this setup be?

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/jupiter-creek/surfing/kite-surfing-set-up/1005017979#



In its day (1999) it was great, sh!t loads of power and turned OK for its size. But those were the days when you could read about people getting killed doing this sport, no depower or quick release.
As a light wind kite it probably would be OK if you were able to use it on a modern bar with safety, but more like $100 if it isnt falling appart.
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
22 Oct 2012 8:21am
I saw something similar on antiques and collectibles .at $600 those antique in such good condition are a bargain (kite obviously not used much because it was impossible to fly .)
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
22 Oct 2012 10:43am
... hey I still got one of those, sitting in the shed!

I tried to learn on one (17.5m), bought it when it was a run out model, going real cheap only $999 in 2003. But the leading edge only lasted 5 or 6 sessions and split and exploded while sitting on the beach. In Naish's wisdom, they tried to make the LE with a dacron/mylar laminate but when they put the mylar on the outside, it de-laminated around the stitching which made it really weak and would explode. This is what happened to mine. Being totally ignorant newbie at the time, I was told, 'this will happen because you over-inflated it'. "Oh, ok, better buy a new one then", and got an X2. I soon worked out I was completely stooged, I had probably only inflated it to 4 or 5 psi so infact it was never over inflated, but since I had a new one I didn't bother to persue it. It was flawed and I paid with my ignorance.

Cheers,

Robbie
gesper
gesper
NSW
518 posts
NSW, 518 posts
22 Oct 2012 6:35pm
That ones the same colour as the one I bought in 2001,mine was a 9.5m projected area of 13.5m . Had the same issues as Puetz , leading edge split open because the mylar delaminated around the stitching.I was lucky and got it replaced under warranty.I ended up with the next years kite still an ARX but a totally different material was used for the leading edge.Ive still got that kite,might take it out one day when im feeling adventurous
AKSonline
AKSonline
WA
925 posts
WA, 925 posts
22 Oct 2012 5:03pm
If you are thinking about purchasing this kite from this guy i would consider looking at his other items.
The collection of 5 plastic tubs are definitely safer, and probably fly better
coastflyer
coastflyer
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
22 Oct 2012 8:36pm
AKSonline said...
If you are thinking about purchasing this kite from this guy i would consider looking at his other items.
The collection of 5 plastic tubs are definitely safer, and probably fly better


Hi guys, I certainly never intended buying this thing! I was just interested in the history of a kite like this, as it was well before my time, when I left windsurfing to take up kitesurfing. The poor guy is probaly wondering why he is getting so many hits on his add, but no sale. That said, imagine if a "Retro Meet" was organized and current experienced kitesailors got a chance to put these old kites up into the air in front of safety helpers on the beach and in the water. Kind of like a classic car rally, but with kites! But, I would not be thinking of spending anywhere near $600, to find out what these old kites were like. I think I will be sticking to my 2012 Rebel's, thanks!
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
22 Oct 2012 9:04pm
coastflyer said...
AKSonline said...
If you are thinking about purchasing this kite from this guy i would consider looking at his other items.
The collection of 5 plastic tubs are definitely safer, and probably fly better


Hi guys, I certainly never intended buying this thing! I was just interested in the history of a kite like this, as it was well before my time, when I left windsurfing to take up kitesurfing. The poor guy is probaly wondering why he is getting so many hits on his add, but no sale. That said, imagine if a "Retro Meet" was organized and current experienced kitesailors got a chance to put these old kites up into the air in front of safety helpers on the beach and in the water. Kind of like a classic car rally, but with kites! But, I would not be thinking of spending anywhere near $600, to find out what these old kites were like. I think I will be sticking to my 2012 Rebel's, thanks!


I had one. I think it was around 9-10m. It disintegrated before it killed me.... It was the advanced kite of its time... meant to be super fast. With ARX (aspect ratio aXelerated) it was a high aspect kite meaning problem to re-lounge at 15.5m and lofting in any reasonable gust. It still has a sentimental value, but I would not hook myself onto it again.... unless there is no other kite around, of course... I would pay $1 for it and donate the thing to a kitesurfing museum which I believe should be established in due time...
... I think this was the model Naish had problem with the mylar sheets....
...just a quick idea: a list of most influential kite models with descriptions etc. since the history of kiteboarding...... here on seabreeze ... starting with the wipika 2 liners....
SugarQube
SugarQube
WA
490 posts
WA, 490 posts
22 Oct 2012 9:27pm
Andrash said...
coastflyer said...
AKSonline said...
If you are thinking about purchasing this kite from this guy i would consider looking at his other items.
The collection of 5 plastic tubs are definitely safer, and probably fly better


Hi guys, I certainly never intended buying this thing! I was just interested in the history of a kite like this, as it was well before my time, when I left windsurfing to take up kitesurfing. The poor guy is probaly wondering why he is getting so many hits on his add, but no sale. That said, imagine if a "Retro Meet" was organized and current experienced kitesailors got a chance to put these old kites up into the air in front of safety helpers on the beach and in the water. Kind of like a classic car rally, but with kites! But, I would not be thinking of spending anywhere near $600, to find out what these old kites were like. I think I will be sticking to my 2012 Rebel's, thanks!


I had one. I think it was around 9-10m. It disintegrated before it killed me.... It was the advanced kite of its time... meant to be super fast. With ARX (aspect ratio aXelerated) it was a high aspect kite meaning problem to re-lounge at 15.5m and lofting in any reasonable gust. It still has a sentimental value, but I would not hook myself onto it again.... unless there is no other kite around, of course... I would pay $1 for it and donate the thing to a kitesurfing museum which I believe should be established in due time...
... I think this was the model Naish had problem with the mylar sheets....
...just a quick idea: a list of most influential kite models with descriptions etc. since the history of kiteboarding...... here on seabreeze ... starting with the wipika 2 liners....


The ARX (2000/2001) which came after the AR5 had the problem with the mylar peeling off the leading edge.
I should check to see if my warranty finaly came through
wave knave
wave knave
306 posts
306 posts
23 Oct 2012 11:15am
they were nice for big hang time though..


NR
NR
WA
517 posts
NR NR
WA, 517 posts
23 Oct 2012 11:56am
The ARX was miles better than the AR3.5 I had, and seemed a bit better than the AR5. 2000, to 2001.
moon waxing
moon waxing
WA
313 posts
WA, 313 posts
23 Oct 2012 1:12pm
Brings back memories...

Safety leash velcroed to your wrist, disabling the rider as much as the kite when deployed.

Certainly an adrenalin rush, think mine went with a bang.
Beersy
Beersy
TAS
753 posts
TAS, 753 posts
23 Oct 2012 4:13pm
wave knave said...
they were nice for big hang time though..





Is this not an automatic life band??
simonp
simonp
216 posts
216 posts
23 Oct 2012 4:22pm
I remember ARXs being really prone to hindenburg. For those not kiting pre-2002, that means the kite would fly too far forward in the wind window in a gust or from pilot error, stall, and then drop nose first out of the sky. Sometimes almost on top of the unfortunate rider
axis
axis
VIC
399 posts
VIC, 399 posts
23 Oct 2012 8:56pm
yep, still got an 9.5 ARX in my shed. At the time it was an awesome kite. Every summer I think about getting it out for a dust off along with the AR3.5

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