New 2010 Switch or 2010 SS Octane

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Murf1
Murf1
WA
256 posts
WA, 256 posts
15 Sep 2009 2:31pm
Hi Folks
I am due for a new kite but cant decide between these two kites. I am after a 9m kite with all round capabilities (currently riding a 9m Convert my other kite is a 6m SB with no additional bar or line, plan to keep the 6m). I am ~ 80 kg and ride in 14-30 kn either on a TT or S/board doing either d/winders, tacking to and fro and love the waves. After doing some research I have narrowed the choice to these kites, I did look at the rebel - don't want 5 lines, bandit and RRD Type 9. There are so many good kites out there now ! Can anyone sway my choice to either kite in the subject line or others that may be suitable ? Who will give the best trade for my 9m Convert

Cheers

MF
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
15 Sep 2009 4:21pm
The bar settup on the new SS Octane looks good and a hell of a lot tougther than past years. So if i had to choose one It would be the octane for that reason. Plus Slingshot Australia give excelant customer service.

I think the differances to the way these two kites will fly would be minimal but will have to wait and demo them to get a better idea.
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
15 Sep 2009 3:57pm
I cant say yet monkeyfish but I'll let you know how the 9M & 13M Octanes rate any minute now waiting waiting waiting

Anyone want a much loved 9M Rev2 or 13M Rev 2 (sold already) - see the buy & sell.
or great learners kite - 7M T2 - same place
Murf1
Murf1
WA
256 posts
WA, 256 posts
15 Sep 2009 4:34pm
Looking fwd to the review Puppet !!!!!
kitecroc
kitecroc
SA
513 posts
SA, 513 posts
15 Sep 2009 9:42pm
The bar and line set up on the new Switchy is sweet as well. Cabrinha have done a great job of tidying up the new bar. Both the SS and Cab are great kites, fly them both and make your decision from there. You can't go wrong with either of them. Enjoy your new toy which ever way you go.
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
15 Sep 2009 8:47pm
Go the Cab they have excellent customer service through the shops I have dealt with in the past and will probably give the best trade on the brands they already sell.

Slingshot customer service in my personal and ongoing situation is not to be envied. After the first contact on 12 Jan 2009 am still waiting on a satisfactory outcome on a kite they said was defective. 2010 Fuels are said to be available in August on the kite and board availibility page on their website and mid sept when clicked on their "more details" page under the products.... I'm a bit confused since it is mid september.
Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
16 Sep 2009 8:48am
Yep, go the Switchblade as your coming from Cabrinha already - if you like the Cabrinha feel, you may not like the Octane's feel...
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
16 Sep 2009 8:56am
The Slingy will turn way faster, if you're riding waves, I'd recommend it over the switchy. The switchy is a great kite but its designed as a wakestyle kite and I don't think it will turn nearly fast enough for waves.
Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
16 Sep 2009 9:00am
Good point - Why not the Nomad Monkeyfish?
Coose
Coose
VIC
229 posts
VIC, 229 posts
16 Sep 2009 10:24am
Saffer said...

The Slingy will turn way faster, if you're riding waves, I'd recommend it over the switchy. The switchy is a great kite but its designed as a wakestyle kite and I don't think it will turn nearly fast enough for waves.


I dont look for turning speed in a kite as much in the waves, i really like the pull the switchy gives on the waves holding its lines well with very little slack making it very responsive while riding in the waves without having to deal with no control when the kite luffs a bit.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
16 Sep 2009 8:02pm
Coose said...

Saffer said...

The Slingy will turn way faster, if you're riding waves, I'd recommend it over the switchy. The switchy is a great kite but its designed as a wakestyle kite and I don't think it will turn nearly fast enough for waves.


I dont look for turning speed in a kite as much in the waves, i really like the pull the switchy gives on the waves holding its lines well with very little slack making it very responsive while riding in the waves without having to deal with no control when the kite luffs a bit.


Guess it depends on the rider. Most of the waveriders I know want small faster kites but I've also seen riders like robby naish who like to lock the kite in one spot and leave them to do their thing.
Murf1
Murf1
WA
256 posts
WA, 256 posts
19 Sep 2009 4:49pm
Rhys Porter said...

Good point - Why not the Nomad Monkeyfish?


Hi Rhys - have thought about the Nomad, like the fact of better bottom end in the SB (14kn on s/board?) and abilities to crossover from surfboard to TT - so I think I will have more versatility/all round abilities in the SB or SS Octane

probably come down to the trade in value on the covert

any SS Octane reviews yet Puppet ?

mf

sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
20 Sep 2009 4:55pm
Coose said...

Saffer said...

The Slingy will turn way faster, if you're riding waves, I'd recommend it over the switchy. The switchy is a great kite but its designed as a wakestyle kite and I don't think it will turn nearly fast enough for waves.


I dont look for turning speed in a kite as much in the waves, i really like the pull the switchy gives on the waves holding its lines well with very little slack making it very responsive while riding in the waves without having to deal with no control when the kite luffs a bit.


Agreed. People that want fast kites for waveriding so they can turn them around a million times aren't "waveriding" they are "wavejibing".....
Get a kite that can sit in the one spot and fall back without luffing out of the sky. Thats what you need to ride a wave.
COL
COL
NSW
554 posts
COL COL
NSW, 554 posts
21 Sep 2009 2:10pm
You're a Goose Sir. That's the great thing about kiting, it's so free. Everyone has their own style. It's just that yours is correct right?
COL
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
21 Sep 2009 3:36pm
sir ROWDY said...
Agreed. People that want fast kites for waveriding so they can turn them around a million times aren't "waveriding" they are "wavejibing".....
Get a kite that can sit in the one spot and fall back without luffing out of the sky. Thats what you need to ride a wave.


Apologies Sir Rowdy. I guess that means that some of the best riders are all wrong including Lou Wainman, Peter Peterson, Martin Vari etc. I'll ask them to humbly come and beg forgiveness from the all knowing Sir Rowdy.
DJ1986
DJ1986
WA
15 posts
WA, 15 posts
21 Sep 2009 5:58pm
why don't you demo both kites and then make your ownmind up??
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
21 Sep 2009 6:18pm
"Apologies Sir Rowdy. I guess that means that some of the best riders are all wrong including Lou Wainman, Peter Peterson, Martin Vari etc. I'll ask them to humbly come and beg forgiveness from the all knowing Sir Rowdy."

just rembember to keep your kite low, so you dont look dangly and gay
stabber
stabber
NSW
1114 posts
NSW, 1114 posts
21 Sep 2009 9:16pm
name dropping!

Imagine how good those guys would be if they actually rode a decent brand.
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
21 Sep 2009 8:02pm
sir ROWDY said...

Coose said...

Saffer said...

The Slingy will turn way faster, if you're riding waves, I'd recommend it over the switchy. The switchy is a great kite but its designed as a wakestyle kite and I don't think it will turn nearly fast enough for waves.


I dont look for turning speed in a kite as much in the waves, i really like the pull the switchy gives on the waves holding its lines well with very little slack making it very responsive while riding in the waves without having to deal with no control when the kite luffs a bit.


Agreed. People that want fast kites for waveriding so they can turn them around a million times aren't "waveriding" they are "wavejibing".....
Get a kite that can sit in the one spot and fall back without luffing out of the sky. Thats what you need to ride a wave.


I'm with Saffer on this, just because a kite is fast, it doesn't mean it can't sit in the one spot and fall back without luffing out of the sky when required..
Have you guys ever heard of a cutback?
With a fast enough kite and the right conditions it is (IMO) achievable with a kite, but hey thats probably not a cool move these days anyway.

MF, I haven't tried either of the two 2010 kites you have specifically mentioned and I don't think many would have tried both, so if you can I would be trying to demo them both (or others) but at a guess from what I have read and experienced from trying previous models the Octane would probably be more wave oriented.
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