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That is relatively easy to do.
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Originally posted by HungLongquote:
That is relatively easy to do.
Please state your experience on these matters if you think it's so easy ?
If it's so easy why has it not been does before ?
regards browneee
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how easy it is to do
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because Dacron etc. needs a bladder
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why does the Hellfish have bladders ????
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There ARE other materials with similar properties to Cuben Fibre .
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Originally posted by HungLong
Tim, you have not actually stated anything of credability on this subject... You have just made a bunch of claims on;
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how easy it is to do
prove it ?
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because Dacron etc. needs a bladder
Cuben Fibre is not dacron !
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why does the Hellfish have bladders ????
traditionally shaped kite made from Cuben Fiber would hold significant performance advantages over all other kites and this kite could be brought to market very quickly.
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There ARE other materials with similar properties to Cuben Fibre .
May be similar but are heavier...
regards browneee
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So,why does the Hellfish have bladders ??
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It does not even have a one pump system !
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Originally posted by HungLong
Sorry you are correct I did'nt answer that part of you post...
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So,why does the Hellfish have bladders ??
We've only just figured out a way of creating this technology. Creating the "cuben fibre" came first and was easier to impliment into currant kite designs.
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It does not even have a one pump system !
We'd rather push our kite designs instead of gymiks. Not knocking the "one pump" systems as they seem to be popular...
regards browneee
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Originally posted by howley
Tim what the F**K is your problem?
Do you think brownee designed the kite?
Do you think brownee does all the marketing for best international?
If you've got some axe to grind with best, which you obviously do, why don't you f**k off to Kiteforum or go and talk to shannon best, I'm sure he'd be really interested.
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Originally posted by TimothyLeary
That is relatively easy to do.
I cant really see much of an advantage though. There isn't much weight in a bladder !
Anyway,such a thing doesn't actually exist yet. So its a hypothetical argument !
Best have already shown that they are prepared to spin untold hype with nothing to back it up.
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Originally posted by howley
My problem is you're a twat.
I happen to be a friend of brownee's, and I don't fly best kites. I have'nt ordered a hellfish.
I'm just sick of your raving against best when you obviously know f**k all about the whole subject of kiting.
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Originally posted by TimothyLeary
Are you like Hillbillys down there ,or what??
Certinaly wind here! 25-35 knots in Brissy ... too windy however 
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Originally posted by HungLong
Now if they could only make it without bladders and bridals... That would be the best kite...
regards browneee
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Originally posted by TimothyLeary
Anyway,that turned into a debate about bladders etc.
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Thats when I answered your abuse with a few truths about the Best kites. First the Hellfish. The kite that appeared and then dissapeared even quicker!
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If you throwbacks can't control yourselves,thats your problem !
If you cant comprehend whats going on,thats your problem.
Are you like Hillbillys down there ,or what??
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If your a friend of Brownner ,tell him to get off my case.Or wear the consequences !
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Originally posted by elizabethbquote:
Originally posted by TimothyLeary
Are you like Hillbillys down there ,or what??
Excuse you TimothyLeary... I don't know what the rest of us did, but do not be so rude as to say something like that! That is stereotyping the rest of us based on like one or two people...
This is a kiting forum everyone... lets just keep it at that and cool off a bit! Have fun and just forget about it all... It's not like there's no wind!
Cheers
Elizabeth - Wello Kiter
I give up -- You're just here for the sake of arguing Tim
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Originally posted by PsYLoR
You guys need to go and have and good long ****, sex or a good kite or something to clear your minds.
This thread is outa control, after reading it i think you've all been a bit carried away with your emotions. It's all about the he said she said bullsh1t. Waaa waaa waaa
Anyway thanks for the link Tim it looks like a very interesting kite.
PS - TO SET A FEW THINGS STRAIGHT,
A kite without bladders and bridals...
as Tim said..."that is relatively easy to do."
YES - Tim is RIGHT, but Tim it has already been done.
No bridals & no bladders in a kite - err that sounds like a Peter Lynn Venom to me......
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Originally posted by TimothyLeary
I would think my statement about "consequences" was easyly understood. It refers to the truth being spoken to counteract lies.
I am not calling you a liar. But you handle the truth very carelessly.
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Originally posted by HungLongquote:
Originally posted by TimothyLeary
I would think my statement about "consequences" was easyly understood. It refers to the truth being spoken to counteract lies.
I am not calling you a liar. But you handle the truth very carelessly.
first you call me a liar, then not... Then a liar again... what is it Tim... make up your mind buddy...
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Originally posted by bondo
you're making too much noise TL - stop trolling and make a genuine contribution or go back to kiteforum.
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Originally posted by TimothyLeary
Why keep baiting me ??
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Originally posted by PsYLoR
Hey Tim dont right off a CAD drawing of a kite, this is the year 2005. Just cuz its a computer drawing doesn't mean that the design hasn't previously been properly thought out and tested in a 'virtual' wind tunnel...
Cuz with the amount of kite designs they have to test, it IS impossible to make & test them all first, so they are tested on computer, the ones that make it from there are turned into a prototype for furthur 'real time' tests. By the time the kite gets back to the factory they have already sent off more variations of the kite to be built for testing. So some of the designs come back and dont even get tested.
The CAD drawing is updated until the final design is reached.
This design is one of Bruno's patents anyway if you know Bruno's input into modern kites then you would know he knows what works.
So it makes sense for him to give the patent out to a few companies or just one then after a while give it to another and eventually every company is using the patent. That way Bruno is rich & happy and each company gets a clear shot at marketing a new design for their kite range.
Anyway TL your posts really seem to have a negetivity about them and your attitude is very childish. I think you have some major issues in your life that you need to address.
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Originally posted by TimothyLearyquote:
Originally posted by PsYLoR
Hey Tim dont right off a CAD drawing of a kite, this is the year 2005. Just cuz its a computer drawing doesn't mean that the design hasn't previously been properly thought out and tested in a 'virtual' wind tunnel...
Cuz with the amount of kite designs they have to test, it IS impossible to make & test them all first, so they are tested on computer, the ones that make it from there are turned into a prototype for furthur 'real time' tests. By the time the kite gets back to the factory they have already sent off more variations of the kite to be built for testing. So some of the designs come back and dont even get tested.
The CAD drawing is updated until the final design is reached.
This design is one of Bruno's patents anyway if you know Bruno's input into modern kites then you would know he knows what works.
So it makes sense for him to give the patent out to a few companies or just one then after a while give it to another and eventually every company is using the patent. That way Bruno is rich & happy and each company gets a clear shot at marketing a new design for their kite range.
Anyway TL your posts really seem to have a negetivity about them and your attitude is very childish. I think you have some major issues in your life that you need to address.
Yeah,yeah!
More hypothetical excuses !
You know,and I know,and Brownie knows,that "cad" drawing suddenly appeared as soon as the buzz started about the Crossbow !So,please dont insult our intelligence !
WindWing already has the Rapture.(Good buzz happening about that to!)
Takoon has the Nova (sounds good to!)
Cabrinha has the Crossbow.
What has best come up with ?
A crayon drawing of a kite even they are giving themselves 8 months to come up with !
No specs,no lines or control system.
Only thing they are claiming is a bladderless leading edge.Which they haven't even developed yet.8 months can go by fairly quickly.They better get their **** together !
