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MDickerson
MDickerson
NSW
64 posts
NSW, 64 posts
29 Jan 2008 3:30pm
Hi Guys,

Would be grateful for you opinion on the following.

- Is the Cabrinha Crossbow 2 2007 an optimal kite for a beginner or would something like the switchblade 2 be quicker and easier to learn on. Are their any other kites which would be better value for money but allow for easy learning but still provide excellent safety? I suppose I am primarily interested in ease of control and ability to relaunch the kite within the water unassisted.

- Would a 12M bow kite be about the right size for a 90K newbie? (Will be boarding in the northern beaches - Sydney ). Any suggestions on what size board this should be coupled with?

- I am looking to buy a second hand kite such that if I damage it - which is I suppose likely in the early stages, my heart does not get too broken. Some of the kites I am looking at have been damaged and professionally repaired. Obviously this is difficult to gauge without seeing the rip and repair location and size, but on the whole how badly would a repair affect the kite’s performance and user friendliness?

- Please let me know if you are aware of any good Sydney, northern beaches based instructors.

Your help is much appreciated.

Thanks - Matthew.
Danos
Danos
WA
5 posts
WA, 5 posts
29 Jan 2008 2:04pm
hey MDickerson,

I can't really comment on the conditions in Sydney but I learnt on a 10m Cabrinha Switchblade in Perth and I'm just over 80kg's.

I found it a great kite to learn on, very forgiving and stable.
having said that I have tried the xbow but not many other kites.

a 12m should do you just fine for your weight.

best thing is to ask your instructor when you get lessons cause you will get lessons
they will have a good idea of what gear will suite you.
Bryden
Bryden
VIC
32 posts
VIC, 32 posts
29 Jan 2008 4:05pm
Good move asking for an instructor. It's a catch 22, no one on the beach will want anything to do with you if you don't take any lessons, but you can't learn nearly as much from your lesson as you will from the mates you'll meet on the beach.
If your instructor is quality, then you should be able to leverage him/her to purchase your first kite or help you pick one out. Will also help immensely if something goes wrong with it. Supports the local scene too.
My thoughts... take it or leave it...
superlizard
superlizard
VIC
702 posts
VIC, 702 posts
29 Jan 2008 5:31pm
what i learned about picking the right kite as a beginner from personal experience:

- please read the manual before buying a kite to check it's wind range. I.e. i got a 13m C for my first kite, and whilst the heavier guys on 12m bows were flying on 14 knots wind, i was splashing the water with anger coz i couldn't get going only to discover i was outside my kite's range. So same size kites in different brands and types will have different range. If i was starting again, i would get 12m Bow, as they have bigger wind range and greater depower, hence it will save you from having to buy multiple kites initially. But if money is not the issue, getting few different size kites for different conditions is a better option in the long run.

- There has been heaps of debate on which kite is better, but after trying few different brands and types, despite some subtle differences appreciated by experienced riders, they all do the job. THey were all able to get me out of the water and cruising just fine. And as long as you understand that you will not end up buying just a single kite in the long run, it doesn't really matter what you get, as long as it's the right size and not very old.

- As for the second hands - here is some practical advice from my personal experience: - if foil has faded parts of discolourations from original colour = not good. If the foil material near the bladder has small tiny holes that are less than 1mm big (check it by holding the deflated kite up above you against a light source) also NOT GOOD. And if you can detect an air leak after pumping up the bladder near the air valves - also not good - means you'll have to replace the bladder soon.

walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
29 Jan 2008 5:54pm
A quick and almost permanent fix for leaking inflation valve caps is to tie a cable-tie around the inflation point for at least half a week, then cut it off. What happens is overtime the inflation point stretches from forcing your pump nozzle into it, and it will no longer seal with the valve cap.
Oh yeh, and make sure you take the cap out before you put a cable-tie on it.
MDickerson
MDickerson
NSW
64 posts
NSW, 64 posts
30 Jan 2008 10:55am
Guys thanks for all the advice. The advice on how to spot a good used kite is particularly useful. Still flummoxed over which would be the best kite to get, have seen a repaired crossbow available at a fair price, however it does seem the switchblade is a more popular kite?

Have noticed some kites are designed for free-riding and some for wakeboarding - what is the difference between these two styles of riding? Which would be best for me? I will mostly be learning on the northern beaches I suspect, but may pop down/up to the entrance or botany bay for a lesson or two. Just want to be able to get up and ride and learn to tack up against the wind. Tricks and jumps are not at all NB at this stage of the game.

Once again thanks for all the help.

Matthew.
colinwill78
colinwill78
VIC
1395 posts
VIC, 1395 posts
30 Jan 2008 12:25pm
walshd said...

A quick and almost permanent fix for leaking inflation valve caps is to tie a cable-tie around the inflation point for at least half a week, then cut it off. What happens is overtime the inflation point stretches from forcing your pump nozzle into it, and it will no longer seal with the valve cap.
Oh yeh, and make sure you take the cap out before you put a cable-tie on it.


Another option for this problem is to gently heat the plug bits in warm water stick somthing slightly bigger and round in them (eg your pump nozzle) to expand them. Instant fix.
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