Nobile Skimboard rocker?

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schmik
schmik
NSW
235 posts
NSW, 235 posts
21 Sep 2009 8:51am
Got to have a 5min ride of a nobile skim over the weekend. Great fun in light winds.

I'm going to make a plywood one as I already have some spare fins and deck grip lying around in the shed.

Can anyone tell me how much rocker these things have? It felt pretty flat.

mike
foorked
foorked
VIC
152 posts
VIC, 152 posts
21 Sep 2009 2:05pm
i was thinking about making one awile ago, you really gotta watch the weight as plywood can get pretty heavy, i ended up just buying one for 350. ive got the CAD file outline in PDF if you would like it. how do i upload pdfs?
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
21 Sep 2009 12:50pm
Hi Guys,

Skim boards are almost dead flat. There is not much rocker apart from the nose on most.

Here is a page for you to check out with design specs on their whole range

www.nemolution.com/summer08/products_boards.php

You may have trouble in getting them stiff enough using 5mm ply. Maybe a couple of longitudinal stringers may help.

Both North and Airush are doing Skims this year but are pretty cost prohibitive when compared to normal Skimboards.

Cheers,

KH
cabstar
cabstar
VIC
328 posts
VIC, 328 posts
21 Sep 2009 3:12pm
fiberglass over the ply and it would be sweet
vishy
vishy
WA
451 posts
WA, 451 posts
21 Sep 2009 10:48pm
Hey mate,

Pretty much dead flat, except for some nose lift as Darren said. You could try putting a bit of tail rocker in if you wanted to use it in the surf, but I'm guessing you will want it for light winds.

The stiffer the better, although a tiny bit of flex wouldn't hurt.

Keep the rails fairly parallel, should make it easier to ride and a bit better upwind.

Put a proper tail on it, the Nobile tail is not what you want. A square tail would be an OK compromise.

Leave the fins in the shed, they are useless.

Enjoy
Matt
roder
roder
27 posts
27 posts
22 Sep 2009 7:33am
putting a subtle concave in board will help stiffen it up
schmik
schmik
NSW
235 posts
NSW, 235 posts
22 Sep 2009 10:46am
Thanks guys. The general idea is to make it as cheap and light as possible. I have done a ply board before and went over the top. Glass and inserts for pads/straps... paint job etc. I ended up with a nice looking but HEAVY board. It did the job for a while before starting to crack under the strain.

For this one. Trace the shape off an existing skim (nobile or craxy fly). Glue two sheets of 5 or 6mm ply together with 3 or 4 cm of nose rocker and 2cm of tail rocker. Cut to shape. Sand rails. drill holes for fins. Paint with marine varnish. Either glue on deck pads or just wax it.

Sure it will be a bit heavy but if i like it and end up riding it a lot then I'll buy a real one.

mike
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
22 Sep 2009 2:26pm
The Real ones are great got one last season, they are so light and easy to ride i get it out regualy even had it out in 25-30kts it still handles the chop well and is a lot of fun jumping waves doing grabs etc. I dont think a ply one would even come close to the way these things ride they edge so hard its incredible. you would be better off looking for one that is a few years old if you want something cheap.

But if you do build a skim let us know how it goes.
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
22 Sep 2009 2:38pm
just whipped my measuring tape out... its exactly 1.5mm at the tail and 1.63mm at the nose 58 wide and 105 long
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
22 Sep 2009 4:58pm
Surely that 1.5cm or 15mm at the tail etc.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
22 Sep 2009 7:20pm
Has anyone tried foam skimboards? Costco have them for pretty cheap and I'm tempted to try one.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
22 Sep 2009 6:37pm
To tell you the truth, cheap skim boards aren't even worth it. They don't get you going in light wind any better than a surfboard and most of them probably get going worse than a boot board. If you really want to get going in light wind you need to spend some serious cash on a high end skimmer.
e.g. I have a Large "Exile" skimboard from the states (mate gave it to me after he realised there is zero good skimming waves around) Its super stiff, super strong, full carbon fibre.... Problem is it will set you back 1 gorrila. Not exactly cheap fun.

"nemo" and "victoria" also make quality skimmers.
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
22 Sep 2009 8:44pm
Hey Rowdy

I happened to be looking into skimboards last week and was actually looking at a large Exile in S glass as below from the US.
It seems a lot of the guys prefer the S glass over the full carbon as it has a little bit more flex.

http://www.skimcity.com/store/product.php?productid=28050&cat=0&page=1

They have heaps of different brands though, but from what I could gather the Exiles and the Zaps seem to be the most popular. I emailed Greg to get a price for shipping a large exile to Perth.

"We are usually able to sneak boards in via the postal service.
Cost to you is about $70 USD.
A 2nd board would add about $10-$20."

So it work out at $415 + $70= $485 USD converts to approx $475+$80 = $555 AUD.
I decided not to worry about it for now but am wondering, what do you think of yours?
richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
22 Sep 2009 9:24pm
There we go guys, any size you want

cyclonekiteboarding.com/?page=boards&id=11

There is another company that makes Handsdown boards but can't find any links.





Cheers
Rich
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
22 Sep 2009 9:33pm
What i found was the full carbon was really a lightwind machine because of its stiffness.
If you skim on it you also notice just how far you can travel due to how ridgid it is.
It is a very efficent board and with just about no flex and a huge planning area it has little resistance.

I have riden a few zaps (and others) and it really isn't the same deal. However if you get a decent board like you mentioned you are still more likely to get going on that before anyhting else.

p.s. The full carbon Exile is so light that I have actually sent the kite to do boosts without having to grab the board to keep it on my feet... no joke.
Postman Pat
Postman Pat
WA
28 posts
WA, 28 posts
23 Sep 2009 11:05am
be sure to post some pics when finished.
strez
strez
QLD
58 posts
QLD, 58 posts
9 Oct 2009 9:24pm
heres acouple of my test board befor painting it`s clegcell core , abs rails , 3 layers of 195 glass top and bottom in epoxy resin . 150cm long 48 cm wide 10mm rocker in tail 30mm in tip , 3 fin option . layed up on glass and vac bagged made by a mate of mine.

results too flexible , needs more tip rocker . feels a little wide in surf but gets going quickly and in very light wind . bottom was relayed with some carbon and extra glass to stiffen and i spent some more time on it . brings a new dimension to my kitting . not real good in chop but awesome fun in flat water or in small clean waves.


photo of rocker


my next one will be same shape with more tip rocker in full carbon .
here`s my mates one 150x45 semi carbon 5 fin option and footstrab option as well


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