I'm no pro but could the beginners try and stay up wind (south) of the entry. Mowing the lawn back and forward and getting in the way of people jumping and unhooking is frustrating and dangerous. When people jump they go down wind (think about it) and then head back out (gaining ground) and complete a "circuit" when your going back and forward in a straight line and turning when you see a kiter head to shore you are down wind of him and in the way.
I assume most of you don't surf but it is similar to the rules of the line up. Don't drop in on the shoulder. I must admit I got frustrated today and unhooked in places I shouldn't. (close to shore and in-between people) but it didn't seem seem to get the point through to you. If you can't hold ground fair enough (you won't be in the way for long) but if you can and are not boosting (big) or need flat (flater) water for unhooking go south!!!!

If you want to boost etc why not head further out to sea,
Not crowded, no noobs, plenty of space down wind,it's your responsibility to make sure there is room down wind before boosting your the one that's more experienced
Basic kite rules

I feel your pain Jono

Jonopark said...

I'm no pro but could the beginners try and stay up wind

just a little contradictory

Why don't you just go to the pond?

I wish I could stay upwind when I was a beginner.

Beginners must be much better these dayz.

You're a brave man slagging off pinnas! It's like bringing up the topic of religion or if smacking a child is ok at the dinner table!

I'm gonna sit back and watch the red thumbs.

Yes it's a beginners spot but please people drop your kite when passing downwind and raise it when passing upwind. Just makes the congestion easier to manage.

And look when turning or jumping!!

stoff said...

We all know who's turned it into a carpark, fortunately we aren't forced to stay.

Its da farrrkers with radios on the beach....

Alpha Bravo Charlie- "send you kite left".... "left".... "I repeat left" ...... "bingo"... you got him.

My two cents worth for up this way, if you are in the poo and a fair way out, on a southerly turning sou'south east and other kiters offer a hand, take it. Had one bloke drop his kite in the surf behind shag rock this afternoon, couldn't relaunch, couldn't self-rescue properly, then tried very unsuccessfully to reset his gear to fly again, all the while getting pummelled through main break, hole in the wall, onto south passage and generally drifting further out to sea.

The fella stubbornly refused my help and that offered by someone far more experience than me. Windsurfing Werner in the park might have a reputation as a grumpy *******, but big thumbs up for getting in his tinnie and going out to rescue him.

Jonopark said...
Anyway I hope my cars alright this week!

Your blue Holden Barina rego "AAD 229" should be fine.

I don't think Jono is being unreasonable. Courtesy and awareness of others on the water should be taught from beginners up and understanding "circuits" is key to having a well functioning beach where everyone gets their turn. Obviously beginners are cut some slack with regards to being in the wrong spot but there;s no reason why they shouldn't be aware of what they are doing wrong.

There's a f**cking entire ocean out there and you want to jump in the exact spot where the beginners are... at the end of the day it's an area that's perfect for beginners to learn, there are plenty of better spots to kite.You should be 50m+ from the beach unless you're launching/landing, there is no no need to come in and do a big boost right on the waters edge.

There are heaps more beginners at Kurnell in Sydney, but the locals strongly enforce the 'circuit' - it is easier to organize because they have rock groynes but they have a few basic rules of when you bear off so that everyone can have 10 seconds to go apesh!t on every tack in. Anyone who breaks the circuit is given a proper briefing by the locals at the first available chance.

Zed said...

There's a f**cking entire ocean out there and you want to jump in the exact spot where the beginners are... at the end of the day it's an area that's perfect for beginners to learn, there are plenty of better spots to kite.You should be 50m+ from the beach unless you're launching/landing, there is no no need to come in and do a big boost right on the waters edge.

No one likes swimming with a crashed kite in the middle of the ocean, if something is going to go wrong with your kit most likely its going to be during a trick. On top of this it is much easier to retrieve board/relaunch where you can stand up. Furthermore the flattest water is often in the last 50m, certainly not in the middle of the ocean. Whilst you may see it as being a show pony to a more advanced rider it just makes sense.

Jed this is blown out of proportion. Please read my last 2 posts. If someone is kiting toward the shore and you are downwind of him or her heading out please let them pass before turning. Please do not turn when he is about to pass you and mow all the way back in. And they also go to the waters edge. I'm boosting roughly 50m out to sea. I'll reset (head back out) and this situation happens exactly the same on my way back in. I can't go north (this is where they teach and body drag self rescue etc and also where the generous people are learning going back and forth. North is windsurf area. Once again if they can't hold ground they are not a problem (and cannot control this) and pass through quickly enough.
Now the funny thing, it appears this is happening all over the place. (reading other posts). Why??? Well they don't learn it here or at other "learning" beaches then try kite somewhere else. And guess what?!?! They do the same thing there. Amazing! Who would have thought. Go to point Walter on the weekend and guess what it's the same. I'm not sure a out the pond or woodies but I'm sure these beginners that