rather than trying to head back up wind just try leaning against your lines. try leaving the water with with front foot a little earlier than the back. hope this helps.im sure there is others out there that will be able to describe it better

Sounds as though you may be heading too far down wind and possibly for too long. The result would be that when you then try and load and create tension in your lines, all you're going to do is basically take up the slack that you have created by heading down wind too far and for too long.

You technically dont waant to "ollie" if you are trying to do a no whip trick.
The key is to load your bodys weight against the lines, keep the bar in close and lean your body progressivley over your heel side edge (if you are riding heelside) really try and bury your rail in the water. (If it isnt windy enough you wont eveen get off the water)
As you feel the lines start to pull you go with the pull and into the air, dont ollie at this point or it will counter all the work you just did. (you can suck your legs up as you leave the water if you want though)
Depending on what kind of trick you are doing will ultimatley depend on how you edge and also leave the water.
If you are just trying to do a backroll, throw you board upwind as you edge and pop and look over your front shoulder.

I think this is really hard to describe because it's a feel thing. To generate "pop" you need
1) good speed yet controlled
2) line tension
3) good edge and release

It's hard to say but it sounds like you've got good speed but loose your line tension by going down wind then not edging hard enough. without good edge and tension your left with nothing to release.
This is what I do and hope it helps
Keep the bar at the sweet spot thoughout with your hands in the centre
Kite at about 60 degrees or maybe a touch higher to start (45 is best when you crack it)
Start heading slightly upwind
Come off you edge a touch, just enough to allow you to drop your body close to the water
Weight over your back foot and carve as hard as you can to point the board to the wind.
At the same time squat with both legs bent
When your board points directly into the wind, push the back of the board hard into the water and completely release your edge

hooked in raileys and backrolls are probably the best way to start
Best of luck mate. this took me ages to crack but keep at it

kitepete said...
...hooked in raileys...

there is no such thing as a hooked in railey.
you must be thinking of a gayley.

my mistake.

When starting out Wassaby, use the chop as suggested. Just before you hit it, carve into it while powered and with a little speed. When you get used to the feel of this, you can then carve harder and with more speed to get more hieght. Once you nail this it will be easier to pop off of flat water as you will already have developed the 'feel' the guys are talking about.
Hope this helps,

D

Timing Buddy

get it wrong & nothin happens except a booty wiggle

Just start surfing / carving some turns down & upwind first - getting more aggressive as your confidence builds with board control. While this is all happening, you'll discover the 'timing' of when the lines pull tension ... then add other good recomendations and you'll be poppin harder than baked beans for breakfast

Most beginners at jumping do not even know how carve up n down - they just Poley backwards n forwards, sound familiar...???

Go Hard or Go Soft

Cheers

wind helps!!!

"Put both hands on the sand as if they were your feet. Scoop the sand from in front of you, around your body and flick the sand up into the wind with your fingertips..."

Sorry Rhys, you lost me at "Scoop".

Rhys Porter said...

Imagine your kneeling on a sandy beach.

Put both hands on the sand as if they were your feet. Scoop the sand from in front of you, around your body and flick the sand up into the wind with your fingertips...

Put a board on your hands (Yes your hands) and make the same motion...

That's what you want - If you can do that with your feet then you'll be flying in no time...

It might look stupid, but it's worked for every single learner i've taught.

Yeah tried that over and over for 3 hours ,then had to ring my mate to get a rope to get me out of the hole I dug.

Yeah I get what your trying to say....sort of

Rhys Porter said...

Lol not my best description then... Must be one of things you gotta see in person lol...
Don't mind me

I heard that exact statement for an internet date once!!!!!
Wish Id hadent seen it it person
Scared for life