Hey, I'm 86kg, and have tried out every combo each year you could imagine. 7 and 11, 9 & 12 & 14, 10 only. Even had a 5 once. They have a really good windrange and fly well even with a lot of the depower pulled on. So my suggestion is...8 and 12, and that will take you to 30 knots.

By the way the best combo was just have a 10 in the back of the car all the time, no hassle.

I have a 12m and 8m and weigh 80kg.I reckon a 13m and 9m would be a good combo as you weigh a bit more than me

samoht said...

Just wondering what sort of kiting you are doing.
Flat water, Surf, or a bit of both.
Tricks, and what level are you at.

Type of winds, Steady or gusty.
12 is a good light wind kite, but I haven't flown this years, soon to arrive.

9 meter is a terrific kite with good wind range.

Reason I ask about conditions is that you might consider a Vegas in the smaller kite, if you are in really gusty winds when its cranking. This years is meant to be pretty good with better up wind ability than last.

(i'm weighing in at 90 kg)

Second hand rebels, I think the 2011 is the best kite of the last 3 years series, but 2012 has the adjustable back line settings.

Thank for the feedback everyone.

I have one season under the belt. I'm competent going upwind and going alright with transitions. Starting on jumping now but not much luck yet.

I usually kite on flat water with a bit of chop here and there (woodies and Melville)

I think I'll evolve to be just a free rider, bit of everything

I agree with saffer. Weigh 84 ish at the time and the 11m would really only be useful 14 to 15 knots and up and thats on a CB wave easier planning than your shinn. I have a shin so know what I'm talking about. I also can ride well in light winds. Yeh I'd go staffers idea or a 12/9. But it would get a handful above 25 knots. So even better a 12, 8 of no board. Another's board makes all the diff hey.

Thanks for all the help guys! I am probably going for a 9m and a 12m

Otherwise a 7m and a 10m + a board like the nugget sounds pretty good too!

Which of these covers more wind range you think?

I'd like to have a 9 or a 10 as my main kite so I don't think the 8 / 12 combo will work for me. Also I think that gap is a little big.

Hey I reckon for your weight I would go the 12/9 combo. I have a 10/8 combo and I weigh 80kgs. I can hold my 10 in up too 30 comfy and my 8 in 40 comfy. It will get going on my 10 in about 15 knots up. Hope this helps

mitch88 said...

Hey I reckon for your weight I would go the 12/9 combo. I have a 10/8 combo and I weigh 80kgs. I can hold my 10 in up too 30 comfy and my 8 in 40 comfy. It will get going on my 10 in about 15 knots up. Hope this helps

You probably want to clarify wind ranges before making comments like that. Quoting gusts is not realistic and I'll challenge any 80kg rider to go out and be comfy on their 10m in a sustained 30knot wind (i.e. 30 knot gusting to 35knots). Quoting gusts is dangerous. It gives inexperienced riders the wrong idea of what conditions they can take their kites out in.

Saffer said...

eppo said...

I agree with saffer. Weigh 84 ish at the time and the 11m would really only be useful 14 to 15 knots and up and thats on a CB wave easier planning than your shinn. I have a shin so know what I'm talking about. I also can ride well in light winds. Yeh I'd go staffers idea or a 12/9. But it would get a handful above 25 knots. So even better a 12, 8 of no board. Another's board makes all the diff hey.

You sure? I've had my 10m out in 25 knots. Granted, at 80kg's I'm pretty powered and I'd always switch to my 7m but for a 10kg heavier rider on a 1m smaller kite I'd be surprised if he couldn't hold it comfortably in 25 knots.

12/8 works but I find there are too many days where you don't know which kite to take and the 3m gap seems optimum.

I said 25 plus.

eppo said...

Saffer said...

eppo said...

I agree with saffer. Weigh 84 ish at the time and the 11m would really only be useful 14 to 15 knots and up and thats on a CB wave easier planning than your shinn. I have a shin so know what I'm talking about. I also can ride well in light winds. Yeh I'd go staffers idea or a 12/9. But it would get a handful above 25 knots. So even better a 12, 8 of no board. Another's board makes all the diff hey.

You sure? I've had my 10m out in 25 knots. Granted, at 80kg's I'm pretty powered and I'd always switch to my 7m but for a 10kg heavier rider on a 1m smaller kite I'd be surprised if he couldn't hold it comfortably in 25 knots.

12/8 works but I find there are too many days where you don't know which kite to take and the 3m gap seems optimum.

I said 25 plus.

Sorry, maybe a difference of opinion but I read "But it would get a handful above 25 knots" as up to 25 knots.

Yeh me too.

Yeh that's about right. at 84kg i could hold the 11m until 20-25 ish but uncomfortable, but that comes with experience. And you go big in that range - but not as big as on my VX's, damn nose bleed stuff, sacred myself for the first time in a long time yesterday and was only pushing it a little.


With a 10m yeh you'd hold 25.

Yeh if ya can demo, the rebel has a real punch, but it is all very controllable. Can't go wrong with the kite.

Akwa said...

Demoing a 9m on sunday! (if the wind pulls through)

At the moment, judging from all the comments: 9m and 12m seems the way to go.

All though the idea of a 7m and a 10m + a North Nugget board sounds good too for the main reason that I have an excuse to also buy an extra board but also because of the small, agile 7m which would probably be a hell of a lot of fun.

I just wonder if there really would be enough days in summer to take out a 7m with my weight.

there will probably be more light wind days (12m) than 25knot+ days for the 7m

Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to test the low end of my 10/7 nugget combo yet as I only collected it on Saturday. I tested it previously but it wasn't light enough to gauge low end but it does have an incredible low end, it felt pretty similar in terms of early planing to a dedicated light wind board like a Flydoor.

It may be worth creating a new topic in the review section asking how much low end could be added by using it. There were a number of responses to previous questions on the nugget so there are quite a few out there.

I have to say the 10m is an incredible kite. One of the reasons I never used my 13m much was because of how damn nice the 10m was and not wanting to get on the 13m after flying it. The 13m was actually really nice compared to my old 12m but the 10m is so good it makes the 13m seem terrible. After flying the 10m and not wanting to use the 13m much, I figured the Nugget would give me the best of both worlds and add some more excitement to lower wind options because of the strapless option.

Maybe the 11/8 is the best compromise in your case.

I am 85kg and i manly ride a 10m Vegas. Most of the guys at out beach that are 85 kg ride 10m Fuse. Your best quiver would be 11m Rebel with a wind range from 13-29 knots. the second best would be 10m and 13m.