Repairs to North Nugget

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eddiemorgs
eddiemorgs
QLD
391 posts
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14 Oct 2013 1:22pm
Can anyone tell me what resin type and glass to use to repair a North Nugget?

Got some delamination happening on on my 2012 under the heels and its allowing water in now . So needs a fix and re-enforcement .

I gather that you need to use the right one otherwise the foam doesn't react that well

Any other helpful hints are welcome

Thanks guys
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
14 Oct 2013 11:46am
Eddie on kiteforum there is a guy call Dan at north, he is really good regarding all north products he should be able to help. I know robbie has a log in, maybe get him to ask?
bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
14 Oct 2013 12:00pm
Its Epoxy.

But Eddie your problem now is the water intake. The EPS foam core of these boards soaks up water like a sponge, literally! If severe, the usual scenario is a full:

- Drill
- Drain
- Vacuum
- Reseal

Not sure how big the hole or how much water has gone in, but it may be worth visiting a professional for some advice.
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
14 Oct 2013 2:08pm
... hey Eddie, get West System 105 Resin and 205 Hardener from Darwin Fiberglass and make sure you read the instructions (I put too much hardener in and it got really really hot quickly ):

http://www.westsystem.com.au/west_system/products/resin_and_hardeners

www.dfgpools.com.au/

You can get the fiberglass cloth from there too, carbon too if you wanna spend the money (not neccessary but would look cool).

cheers,

Robbie

eddiemorgs
eddiemorgs
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14 Oct 2013 6:21pm
Thanks guys .

Bene; I have cut out the section - probably about 200 x 70 - and allowing it to dry - actually its not too bad but made to look worse by the colour of the bamboo - so thinking there is not too much water incursion - more like a very slow leak probably only when under stress from the heel and slowed down by being under the padding .

There is some delamination around the margins of what has been cut out - would I stick it down with the resin first ?

Thanks Eppo and Puetz - will pick up some gear tomoz and do a bit more homework before getting into it

Thanks


Puetz
Puetz
NT
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14 Oct 2013 7:17pm
Puetz said..
... hey Eddie,

get West System 105 Resin and 205 Hardener from Darwin Fiberglass and make sure you read the instructions (I put too much hardener in and it got really really hot quickly ):

http://www.westsystem.com.au/west_system/products/resin_and_hardeners

www.dfgpools.com.au/

You can get the fiberglass cloth from there too, carbon too if you wanna spend the money (not neccessary but would look cool). cheers, Robbie


... red thumb, oh dear,,,,what was wrong with my advise,,, is West System no good???? I've used this stuff before and was advised by a boat builder this was the stuff to use,,,, and worked so can the red thumber let me know why its no good so I don't make the same mistake again?????
high as a kite
high as a kite
SA
1312 posts
SA, 1312 posts
14 Oct 2013 8:19pm
Do what everyone else does. quick fix and flogg it off

As the big fella said, be wary of the hardener. I burnt a hole straight through a surfboard once.

All the best Eddie.


Got the 17m Robbie, haven't had it out yet still 7m weather down here.
Radman
Radman
WA
629 posts
WA, 629 posts
14 Oct 2013 8:59pm
Throw it in the bin and buy a new board your waste n money on repair new construction n on north shud be better time will tell
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
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14 Oct 2013 9:49pm
... red thumb, oh dear,,,,what was wrong with my advise,,, is West System no good???? I've used this stuff before and was advised by a boat builder this was the stuff to use,,,, and worked so can the red thumber let me know why its no good so I don't make the same mistake again?????

Oh well fixed with some greenies. Sometimes social media aint very social. Red thumbing for asked for advice, not cool
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
15 Oct 2013 1:10am
I've used standard epoxy based glue from supermarkets and a year later it's still unbreakable. I guess it depends on the size of the ding, but I've used it to repair a variety of dings and fin boxes.
bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
14 Oct 2013 10:11pm
eddiemorgs said..

Bene; I have cut out the section - probably about 200 x 70 - and allowing it to dry - actually its not too bad but made to look worse by the colour of the bamboo - so thinking there is not too much water incursion - more like a very slow leak probably only when under stress from the heel and slowed down by being under the padding .

There is some delamination around the margins of what has been cut out - would I stick it down with the resin first ?



Poly/PU repairs I would always cut any delam glass away. Cut right back until the glass is solid/fixed to the core. Then fill, sand, re-glass, sand, gloss, sand to wet/dry.

Not sure if epoxy is different. All I know is it's harder to sand than poly!
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
NT, 2186 posts
15 Oct 2013 2:56pm
dave...... said..
... red thumb, oh dear,,,,what was wrong with my advise,,, is West System no good???? I've used this stuff before and was advised by a boat builder this was the stuff to use,,,, and worked so can the red thumber let me know why its no good so I don't make the same mistake again?????

Oh well fixed with some greenies. Sometimes social media aint very social. Red thumbing for asked for advice, not cool


... back at ya,,, greenie for greenie!!!
eddiemorgs
eddiemorgs
QLD
391 posts
QLD, 391 posts
15 Oct 2013 7:54pm
Great help thanks people.

Come to have closer look - quite a bit of water when you press it - will have to leave in the sun for a few days. Won't dry out properly don't reckon but will finish the repair and get some more time out of my beloved nugget.

Will start to see what the replacement might be for our skinny wind.

The newer ones seem to be better built and are not showing the same problem but need to hear how the new version stacks up with this classic.
SugarQube
SugarQube
WA
490 posts
WA, 490 posts
15 Oct 2013 6:24pm
patch it up with some araldite, which is epoxy based and continue on. In the off season, drill some holes in it, stand the board up and watch the water trickle out
T one
T one
NT
321 posts
NT, 321 posts
15 Oct 2013 9:37pm
Ummmm... Maybe give that dude in bishop st with the boatshed a call..... Think u have his number...
eddiemorgs
eddiemorgs
QLD
391 posts
QLD, 391 posts
16 Oct 2013 9:36pm
Oh him. Just built a 55 foot cat I think ...
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