Rev 2 chicken loop comes undone

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Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
7 Feb 2009 4:54am
This is the second or third time it has happened to me: the little red knob obviously gets pulled back a little too easily, releasing the pin and then next thing I am flying unhooked and over-powered. Tempted to put a screw in the thing as this "safety feature" is proving very dangerous indeed.

Any advice?
vader
vader
NSW
418 posts
NSW, 418 posts
7 Feb 2009 8:26am
just make sure that your qr [red knob] and your trim cleat are not on the same side so you don`t accidently pull it .
cheers
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
7 Feb 2009 3:50pm
Yes, I do that, but the depower cleat is on a swivel which does move around a bit as one does things with the kite. It seems to me to be more design flaw than user error. Just looking at the mechanism again today, it does not have a smooth action due to sand getting in it, the little black elastic that holds the red knob in place is kinda weak and the pin does not really seem to me to go far enough into the red knob quick release. Anyone else had this mishap?
jackgearo
jackgearo
NSW
331 posts
NSW, 331 posts
7 Feb 2009 8:03pm
try putting some stronger bungee on
Digs
Digs
WA
12 posts
WA, 12 posts
7 Feb 2009 6:10pm
Had this happen to me on a T3. I replaced the bungee but you can also pull the knot in tighter as it is now to make it harder to pull out.
Stormboy
Stormboy
SA
86 posts
SA, 86 posts
7 Feb 2009 9:38pm
i've got rev 1 and have the same problem on occassion. i agree not the greatest system. Also know one guy who was more into spins and that and he stuck a screw through it, personally i won't cause u never know when u might need it
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
7 Feb 2009 11:02pm
Will try stronger, tighter elastic. Thanks guys.
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
446 posts
NSW, 446 posts
8 Feb 2009 2:25am
I have the same thing on my TD2, and it's got away from me a few times.

It's a pain in the ass, tightening the elastic band sounds like a good solution.
axis
axis
VIC
399 posts
VIC, 399 posts
8 Feb 2009 9:46am
great advice on the elastic. I've used Fuel bars since '07 with this release and accidentally popped the release early on a few times but that is all.

Seen people tape or cable tie the release so it won't come undone.
pfr
pfr
NSW
156 posts
pfr pfr
NSW, 156 posts
8 Feb 2009 4:48pm
here we go again, another stuffup with the ss bar, when will they learn? If you got a cab instead you wouldn't have this pain in the ass problem. if you are going to replace with stronger elastic you should contact slingshot and they might have some bomber proof construction elastic in the workshop lol!!
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
8 Feb 2009 4:28pm
It is a problem with ss bar, as are the 3 lines coming thru it which kill your fingers if you have one hand in the middle and you aren't unhooked. Cab bars apparently aren't the thing either - the depower system goes - there have been posts about that, although it has never happened to me when I used to ride Cabs. But demo-ing the 09 revolver vs. the rev2 there was no contest in terms of low end power, speed of the kite and responsiveness to bar movement. I do prefer the cab bar tho, the depower system is easy and has never failed me. The little bungies on the ends to keep the lines neat is something slingshot should add to their bars. I rode fuels before the cabs and the cleats used to slip as well. The wind would pick up so you depower a little, the cleat slips and suddenly you're fully powered again, just when you don't want to be. Not fun! Slingshot could also introduce coloured lines which would be a bit more modern than boring white. The centre depower line on my slingshot has worn and frayed to "dangerous" in 6 weeks and needs replacing - not good. And taking it apart, I find that the swivel is covered in rust - not good either! Definitely room for improvement. But I am not a ss loyalist, it is the kite performance that is important and how you ride it and I would not swop my rev2s for any thing else.

kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
8 Feb 2009 5:05pm
they should make a chicken loop for noobs then this complaint can never come up again. in the mean time just do this


it's safe for noobs (suicide normally but when your QR gets activated either by accident or on purpose one line or fifth line gets deployed) and saves your depowerline from getting messed up if you connect your leash directly to it.

As for swivelling just do tricks in both directions or undo it and spin free.

if enough people want to make these then i might do a sequence of photos of how to do a **** dynema splice. (i did a double with a self locking take back because i didn't like the look of a self locking one at first.)

It cost $1 for enough to do 3 of them
jt737
jt737
QLD
418 posts
QLD, 418 posts
8 Feb 2009 6:16pm
Noticed my Rev2 chickenloop line also rusted and not turning, so opened it up to discover the bearing had failed. Slingshot's warranty service was awesome with a new bearing and line delivered within 4 days. Can give you Australian rep's email if you PM me.
Most people seem to wax their chickenloop lines to prevent wear and fluffing occuring, haven't had any problems with mine.
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
8 Feb 2009 6:13pm
jt737 said...

Noticed my Rev2 chickenloop line also rusted and not turning, so opened it up to discover the bearing had failed. Slingshot's warranty service was awesome with a new bearing and line delivered within 4 days. Can give you Australian rep's email if you PM me.
Most people seem to wax their chickenloop lines to prevent wear and fluffing occuring, haven't had any problems with mine.


Thanks. I am in South Africa and have had good service from ss here. Called them yesterday and they will replace the bearing and line. Said they replaced 40 here last week, so there is a design fault there too.

The line was waxed. You need to use candle wax, not sex wax.

Regarding Kitecrazzzy: I been kitesurfing for 10 years, but guess I could still be a noob. I don't do spins, I ride a surfboard in the waves.

Your double leash thing does not really solve the problem which is of the QR coming undone accidently - see green arrow.

I usually just hook the safety on to the ring (red arrow), but the line from there up to the front lines is just bungee and I have broken that too once when the chicken loop inadvertantly came undone. In fact ss supply a spare one with all kites (or so they say), i guess because they get broken so often!





Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
8 Feb 2009 6:16pm
sorry, duplicated picture
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
8 Feb 2009 6:33pm
my bad, being unhooked is generally a problem for noobs only but.
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
8 Feb 2009 7:01pm
I guess you're right kitecrazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzy, but unhooking inadvertantly* is different from unhooking when you want to.

*"Indadvertantly": accidently, unplanned, when you don't want to.

The discussion is about the QR red knob coming undone. Yours is not a solution
fozzy
fozzy
SA
501 posts
SA, 501 posts
8 Feb 2009 9:42pm
Lazarus, when I rode SS gear I had the same issue (was 08 Rev) I screwed my QR closed placing a screw through the nylon sleeve directly above where you have indicated with a green arrow. I haven't ridden with a donkey d1ck for a couple of years though so never considered it a problem. If I needed out I would have just unhooked. Probably not the best solution if you are riding with a donkey d1ck but you might want to consider it as an option.
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
9 Feb 2009 12:02am
kitecrazzzy said...





thanks for this idea. gives a safe release system and takes away the flagging problems with unhooking.
Kitesplosh
Kitesplosh
VIC
123 posts
VIC, 123 posts
9 Feb 2009 12:22pm
Hey Lazarus

If it's a design fault then you could always screw the QR shut and then use a SS surefire spreader bar. see

I've used one for 3 years with no problems (although i took off the spinning leash thingy and use a normal leash set up to the red ring on the my rev). Advantage is that if you're using lots of different kites with different QR systems then you wont get confused about where the QR is when you need remeber in a hurry.
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