Out for a session on the water last night with three other locals one of which is very experienced!
I have seen this guy lecture others before regarding HIS right of way but not having witnessed the details of the situations I can't comment. However last night it seemed that it was my turn for the enlightenment of his so called superior knowledge of the right of way rules regarding kite surfing. Apparently I had ignored his right of way (he was on Starboard tack coming towards the beach) when sitting on the water's edge with TT on feet with kite at 12 o'clock ready to start off. The sun was at his back so no excuse as to what I was doing he could clearly see me about to enter the water. I expected he would shorten his tack and or pass down wind giving me room to safely enter the water. Once up and going I took the downwind route as I was on port tack and avoided any chance of collision as he seemed determined to hold his course and do a toe side turn in the last few cm of water at the beach.
Packing my kite away later he approached to give me the benefit of his experience and that he had the right of way in his opinion, given my lecture I decided not to kick off but go and double check the rules before action.
The rules are crystal clear persons entering the water have the RIGHT OF WAY, riders coming into the beach should give way to riders entering the water even if this means having to take another tack before being able to return to the beach.
Below are the rules with "pictures" it's a good idea to print off a copy and keep it in your kite bag pocket because you never know when a lecture could be coming your way.
Needless to say he will get my opinion when next we meet!
www.britishkitesurfingassociation.co.uk/images/stories/pdf/training/final_ika_poster_kspd.pdf
http://www.britishkitesurfingassociation.co.uk/images/stories/pdf/BKSA/rights%20of%20way%20tri%20fold%20w-o%20folds.pdf

^^^ +1

The right of way rules are not supposed to be used for "I'm right get out of my way"

LiveToFly said...
That may be the official rule which works fine for a busy beach like pinnas, however Imo if there were only a couple of kiters out, he was in the water first and possibly coming in for a transition trick, it's not hard for you to give him common courtesy and wait a few seconds till he's on a new tack and out of your way.

One of the very first rules you learn is to only launch your kite when the coast is clear, same goes for entering the water. Short tacking is very frustrating on the water and if you expected him to just do a transition earlier to get out of your way on an uncrowded beach then that is fairly selfish, in my opinion anyway.

On a slight tangent, my biggest pet hate is people standing in the shallows doing fa for ages with their kite in the air, getting in the way of everyone in the water. My second is people coming towards me and turning right in front of me. Grrrr!

This was done to death not long ago. I vouched for waiting until the guy had turned around then enter the water. Then someone said because the beach is the most dangerous place to be, then if you are the one coming in, let the guy get off the beach...I thought this made common sense to me.

And I agree with the last comment here, seems to happen at the places like the pond hey, ...not that is bothered me that much as it is not my local and I was jusy chilling trying out kites, but a busier day I was down there month or so ago I was wondering WTF was going on, crew just standing around pulling their knobs, those freestylers must be pissed...then again maybe not.

Ive seen this guy you are talking about
A complete P---
thinks he owns the beach

Geeze, what were you thinking, the water only covers 70% of the planet, there wasn't much room out on the water there for him to do what he wanted to do, you should have given him right of way . . . .

Pommy Pete, does not look like you have much support on this one mate. Thought I explained it very kindly, maybe I will kiss your ass before I talk to you next time. You ham it up worse than my wife! Hardly a lecture…
Your pommy rules don't apply here mate, leave them in your pocket. It's simple, wait your turn to enter the water, while waiting… keep your kite low over the leeward side of the beach before you launch, and keep your kite low over the leeward side of the beach while your walking back up the beach.
Been kiting this spot for 7 years now without incident or any push back on the rules we kite by, until Pete arrived (some get it I guess). If we have some sort of idea on the way it works then we can all kite together (safely).
As for newone1, follow the rules and were all peachy, otherwise steer clear!

Public beach.

easy one this, next time drop your kite over his lines, while looping your kite release your safety lease and chicken loop extremely quickly and watch him fly new wa rules

geeze sounds like i missed a barny And for you Juddy just ****y old Quinns

Eh piglet or twiglet whichever suits, what so called reputation is my mate "munga" living up to ? You know him personaly to "pity his wife " if not stfu !!!

munga is fijian for c unt...


enough said really

You're plain wrong pilot pete.
Guy on the water has right of way.
Keep your kite beachside until he has turned and headed out/ boosted/ slashed the oncoming wave, whatever.
If it's too dangerous too keep your kite beachside while the guy goes through fxxx oxx to the river til you can fly a kite.

dingojack said...
It has been common practice and courtersy at local to allow incoming rider to come in from the choppy sht at quinns and execute transition in relatively flat water! Localism? Bully? Or just commonsense !

It's the same courtesy i apply at my local; i agree it is common sense!!! But at the end of the day how long are you going to remain courteous??? imagine Tarifa with 300 kites out. That's one of the reasons there's an internationally accepted rule.

Weta said...

dingojack said...
It has been common practice and courtersy at local to allow incoming rider to come in from the choppy sht at quinns and execute transition in relatively flat water! Localism? Bully? Or just commonsense !

It's the same courtesy i apply at my local; i agree it is common sense!!! But at the end of the day how long are you going to remain courteous??? imagine Tarifa with 300 kites out. That's one of the reasons there's an internationally accepted rule.

You have adequately supported the common practice at quinns with your observation of Tariifa...it's declared an "accepted rule" by most locals !
I'm sure pilot Peter would appreciate some consideration from a beachside kiter ready to enter the water when he is shore bound on his race board !

Would you pull out into a main road without giving way?
Tarifa with 300 kites sounds like a freeway....
You would courteously pick your moment to go, wouldn't ya

Im going to make my own rules up at my beach too, fcku the code.