Rude farqs who wont catch kites !!

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coyil
coyil
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28 May 2007 9:32pm
I have noticed over the last few months a couple of kiters who tend to look the other way and appear busy when someone is about to land their kite.

Is it that they are aloof or just plain rude farqs who are up themselves?

What is an appropriate penalty ????
[}:)]
user
user
WA
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28 May 2007 7:33pm
Just dump ya kite right on top of the scurvy scum !!AAGH!!!!
echostorm
echostorm
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28 May 2007 9:54pm
whilst standing in front of them fly your kite through the powerzone about 5 metres behind them aiming at there head with your front lines.
silviu
silviu
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28 May 2007 11:06pm
This is a matter of good manners and choice.
If they are rude and behave like that, you can't do anything. You can't change the world!
The only thing you can do is to ignore them, do not get down to their mud, it is not worthy.
I know it is annoying, but you can’t change their way and if you bodder them, they may become aggressive.
Cheers

manicskier
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28 May 2007 11:09pm
quote:
Originally posted by echostorm

whilst standing in front of them fly your kite through the powerzone about 5 metres behind them aiming at there head with your front lines.



I think they would be a little agressive after that... if they were still able to be agressive
Charl dv
Charl dv
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28 May 2007 10:23pm
quote:
Originally posted by manicskier

quote:
Originally posted by echostorm

whilst standing in front of them fly your kite through the powerzone about 5 metres behind them aiming at there head with your front lines.



I think they would be a little agressive after that... if they were still able to be agressive



and if they do that is the perfect time to teach them what board fins taste like or wat a salty....
extreme
extreme
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29 May 2007 1:09am
tap ur head when u get their attention, how many ppl lately just fly their kite low and expect someone to read their mind
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
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29 May 2007 2:40pm
exactly right. people just think you know. but on another note i like to sit and watch people kite at the beach sometimes, im not there to get up every 2 minutes to catch someones kite. learn to self land its not that hard. (unless its really windy)
axis
axis
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29 May 2007 9:52pm
Agree Rowdy. I launch & land people all the time with but never expect anyone to do it for me. I am always prepared to self launch & land. I have heard of people staying out on the water waiting for someone to turn up so they can get a land.

That said, when I am setting up to launch I often get nice people offering to give me a launch!

coyil
coyil
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29 May 2007 9:59pm
Its just the right thing to do !!
waveslave
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29 May 2007 8:47pm
quote:
Originally posted by coyil

I have noticed over the last few months a couple of kiters who tend to look the other way and appear busy when someone is about to land their kite.

Is it that they are aloof or just plain rude farqs who are up themselves?

What is an appropriate penalty ????
[}:)]



Hey Coyil,
Kitesurfing is not a team sport, mate.
(Unlike tow-in surfing).
There's only 'I' in KITE.
There's no 'us'.
Your aloof boyfriends don't really care, man.
Rely on number 1.
Self-landing is empowering.
Self-launching same.
Number 1.
stamp
stamp
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29 May 2007 11:11pm
obviously nobody will launch or land you at your local beach slave
coyil
coyil
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30 May 2007 10:11am
Actually Slave there is only a couple of them here, one has gone interstate, I wasnt referring to myself, its only happenned to me once by a knob from WA actually, it was a general observation. Everyone else is more than eager, its a karma thing. Self launch and landing are ok, but with limited area and lots of obstacles its sometimes not worth the risk. Interesting replies.
user
user
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30 May 2007 1:47pm
Yeah,I only land my mates kites.

If its a kook or a blow in,I turn away and ignore them.

Got to maintain the pecking order.
sharkbait
sharkbait
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30 May 2007 5:29pm
user was dropped on his head when he was born! ! Mean prick......
meerkat
meerkat
WA
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30 May 2007 3:37pm
if somebody is being aloof and won't catch your kite. Then calmly and politely walk over and ask them nicely. Then when they are ready to catch your kite, hover it just out of reach and watch as they stretch and sometimes jump for it, very entertaining.

NOTE: this works especially well if you can find a bikini girl to do the jumping for your kite.
xtortya
xtortya
WA
322 posts
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30 May 2007 8:58pm
meercat....you rock
i'm trying that bikini thing.
GOLD!
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
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31 May 2007 10:55am
quote:
Originally posted by meerkat

if somebody is being aloof and won't catch your kite. Then calmly and politely walk over and ask them nicely. Then when they are ready to catch your kite, hover it just out of reach and watch as they stretch and sometimes jump for it, very entertaining.

NOTE: this works especially well if you can find a bikini girl to do the jumping for your kite.




Thats gold meerkat. Im gunna try the bikini thing too.
coyil
coyil
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31 May 2007 11:13am
excellent
stamp
stamp
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31 May 2007 2:36pm
im wearing my skimpiest bikini to the beach next time i go kiting
Tonewolf
Tonewolf
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31 May 2007 5:07pm
i often have people give me a hand..."getting it up"
and i don't have any trouble going down.....wind.

bite me!
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
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31 May 2007 7:10pm
I 'pull' my bar hard when I want to land. Well actually the outside lines.
stamp
stamp
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31 May 2007 8:03pm
i like to be strapped, and sometimes i sneak inside
windpig
windpig
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113 posts
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31 May 2007 9:08pm
Saw Adam Yarad pull that stunt at Cotton Tree,on a topless German
backpacker (girl).Kept it bouncing around for quite a while (kite
that is)User is on the mark,you do start to get over season after season
of your kite spot being invaded by kooks & nobs,and then when someone who has been in your face all day waves their kite over your head
(no doubt sending out telepathic messages to grab it) you do tend to
ignore it.But seriously, a please , thank you or a smile goes a long way at a new kite spot .
hilly
hilly
WA
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31 May 2007 11:27pm
that's what i love about kiting it is always about me me me. watch me jump, look at my boardies outside my wetty, i can turn inside you and hoG the waves, what other water users?? i want to land catch my kite boy, catch it now! you sound like paris hilton. harden the f.u.c.k up you moron land your own kite. you kiters are so special.
jan
jan
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1 Jun 2007 12:45am
sometimes its worth staying out a bit longer just so your kite doesnt get noobymangled when a beginner catches it ... well if u can call it catch
youngbull
youngbull
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1 Jun 2007 3:00am
i land most kites but if i know there a w..ker, i turn my back, i dont see any prob in that, I help as many people as i can and thats nearly everyone. Why should people bother if some dont have time to be (at the least) polite and reply to your gday mate or hello. Hey kitting is all about yourself but if your r a snob or do not want to be friendly you can learn the hard way[}:)]
coyil
coyil
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1 Jun 2007 10:06am
88 and nearly there
VEGEKITE
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1 Jun 2007 3:05pm

Bottom line (no pun intended) is that it is always 'safer' to have someone help launch and land, as long as that person knows how to handle the kite.

Safer not only for the kiter but also for other 'public' beach users.
And this is becoming an issue. Several kiting spots possibly being banned for kiters because of public complaints and council action.

It only takes a small gust to stuff up a self landing.
In light winds its pretty easy for the kite to luff near land and in any decent kite wind it becomes pretty hard to get the kite to settle on ground.
Not too mention a lot of locations don't have the safe area.

Launching and landing are pretty much the most dangerous part of kiting.
Other people and lots of hard stuff to hit.

Serious injuries can and do happen.
Deaths too (kiters and non-kiters).

Close to land, a small gust and wind turbulance makes your kite less predictable.

If you've ever witnessed a mishap you'd know that there isn't time to release. Sometimes lines tangle and there is 'no' depower. Or you release kite entirely and it flies off to take someone else out.

Not everyone is confident to self launch and land.

Not all kites do this as well as others.

And its highly unadvisable for a newby to even attempt it (unless during a lesson or safe arena). People don't always have their 'mate' there to launch or land them.

For people wanting assistance to land, tap the top of your head with your palm as a sign.
If you see someone doing this you can pretty much assume they need or would prefer help.

If you are helping someone launch, don't release until they give you the thumbs up or yell ok.

Assisted launching gives you that last 'clear' chance to check lines are ok before you are at the wind's mercy with tangled lines.

If you are landing/catching someones kite, grab it only by the leading edge, then work your hands towards the centre of leading edge holding kite upside down. Step towards kiter to keep lines slack if need be. If you are not confident/capable of turning it over then just hold it till the kite owner runs up to you to take over. If you are then I don't need to say anymore.

If you want to self launch or land, go for it... far away from the hustle and bustle... at least down wind.

For anyone that doesn't know how to self land, ask someone to teach you the techniques. And practice it somewhere safe where you have miles of open beach with no one or hard objects around. Sooner or later you will need to self land.

All in all, its not 'that' hard to get up and help, and if everyone does it, then 'you' don't have to do it that often.
Is it worth the 'possible' injury for the amount of effort it takes to help?

It may be you or one of your loved ones that gets taken out by a runaway kite because someone else didn't give a toss.

We live in a 'society' not a vacuum.

My ethics dictate to offer help, and help when someone asks. I'd actually help someone that was jerk. Maybe they'll learn something and I'd be keeping others safer.

And it actually makes me feel better than James Brown...

Ps. If someone helps you, smile and shout above the wind, 'Thankyou'.

I've mostly found that people are altruistic/philanthropic.

echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
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1 Jun 2007 6:49pm
blooooooody hell mate. Thats one looooooooooooong post.
windpig
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QLD
113 posts
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1 Jun 2007 9:17pm
quote:
Originally posted by VEGEKITE


Bottom line (no pun intended) is that it is always 'safer' to have someone help launch and land, as long as that person knows how to handle the kite.

Safer not only for the kiter but also for other 'public' beach users.
And this is becoming an issue. Several kiting spots possibly being banned for kiters because of public complaints and council action.

It only takes a small gust to stuff up a self landing.
In light winds its pretty easy for the kite to luff near land and in any decent kite wind it becomes pretty hard to get the kite to settle on ground.
Not too mention a lot of locations don't have the safe area.

Launching and landing are pretty much the most dangerous part of kiting.
Other people and lots of hard stuff to hit.

Serious injuries can and do happen.
Deaths too (kiters and non-kiters).

Close to land, a small gust and wind turbulance makes your kite less predictable.

If you've ever witnessed a mishap you'd know that there isn't time to release. Sometimes lines tangle and there is 'no' depower. Or you release kite entirely and it flies off to take someone else out.

Not everyone is confident to self launch and land.

Not all kites do this as well as others.

And its highly unadvisable for a newby to even attempt it (unless during a lesson or safe arena). People don't always have their 'mate' there to launch or land them.

For people wanting assistance to land, tap the top of your head with your palm as a sign.
If you see someone doing this you can pretty much assume they need or would prefer help.

If you are helping someone launch, don't release until they give you the thumbs up or yell ok.

Assisted launching gives you that last 'clear' chance to check lines are ok before you are at the wind's mercy with tangled lines.

If you are landing/catching someones kite, grab it only by the leading edge, then work your hands towards the centre of leading edge holding kite upside down. Step towards kiter to keep lines slack if need be. If you are not confident/capable of turning it over then just hold it till the kite owner runs up to you to take over. If you are then I don't need to say anymore.

If you want to self launch or land, go for it... far away from the hustle and bustle... at least down wind.

For anyone that doesn't know how to self land, ask someone to teach you the techniques. And practice it somewhere safe where you have miles of open beach with no one or hard objects around. Sooner or later you will need to self land.

All in all, its not 'that' hard to get up and help, and if everyone does it, then 'you' don't have to do it that often.
Is it worth the 'possible' injury for the amount of effort it takes to help?

It may be you or one of your loved ones that gets taken out by a runaway kite because someone else didn't give a toss.

We live in a 'society' not a vacuum.

My ethics dictate to offer help, and help when someone asks. I'd actually help someone that was jerk. Maybe they'll learn something and I'd be keeping others safer.

And it actually makes me feel better than James Brown...

Ps. If someone helps you, smile and shout above the wind, 'Thankyou'.

I've mostly found that people are altruistic/philanthropic.



This technique would be very dangerous landing a foil or a
Peter Lynn kite.
Yes most people are(those two words that had most people running for
their dictionarys)but sometimes you just can't help your self making some of these arrogant blow ins squirm a bit.There's not much wind
is there?
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