Safety Bay - kitesurf/windsurf crash

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mattressbuster
mattressbuster
WA
177 posts
WA, 177 posts
26 Dec 2005 3:31pm

we might want to be aware of what happened at Safety Bay yesterday - by second hand reports a kiter transitioned into a well known local windsurfer there cracking 5 of his ribs , knocking him unconscious and "removing" part of his calf.

nils - the windsurfer in question is in emergency care right now.

I'm sure it wasn't intentional but it might pay to take it easy down that way and try not to get too tight on the sailboarders. Might be an icy welcome from the many local windsurfers too so try and be diplomatic.

Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
26 Dec 2005 3:54pm
Hey Matt and everyone else,

Do we know if the kiter was a local or a drop in? Was the kiter injured? I'm guessing not as there is no word on his condition.

I am sad for the windsurfer, just as summer is coming on ....

This is a timely reminder that we need to keep a safe distance away from all other water users and especially when we are jumping as we forfeit Right of Way as soon as we leave the water in a jump.

When jumping, please look downwind 50m (in front and behind) as well as checking upwind and behind (30m), as you swinging your kite back when you have another kiter following upwind and behind can result in a catastrophe.

Be safe and have fun!



poor relative
poor relative
WA
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kitesuffer
kitesuffer
NSW
148 posts
NSW, 148 posts
27 Dec 2005 2:40am
Also second hand info....
Kiter is a very experienced and competent local.

I kite in that spot at times and the most dangerous thing about it is when windsurfers go on speed runs approaching kites obliquely in what would be as close to a blind spot as a kiter has. They occaisionally come very close, very quickly and very unnecissarily. I don't know if these were the circumstances or not but if we all try and keep some distance it will be better for all concerned. I have never seen any kiter in that area jump close to windsurfers that they knew were there. It would be really sad to see the very good relationship we have with the vast majority of the area's users deteriorate.

I hope the windsurfer guy is alright.

I've not heard whether the kiter was injured.

I'm sure someone with more info will emerge.
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
27 Dec 2005 11:31am
Very sad this thread, especially this time of year. I do hope that all involved parties are fine and make a speedy recovery. The risks associated with sport will always be there.

We all have a responsability to look out for each other, whether on the water, in the air or on the roads. The high speeds, and multi dimension of extreme sports can create life threatening situations....to anyone!

Learning to communicate with each other on the water by waving etc. is good practice as it highens your awareness of others....and you are engaged in a social act the minute you have more than 2 on the water within eyesight.

Hope there is wind for all and get well soon.

KNM
KNM
WA
59 posts
KNM KNM
WA, 59 posts
27 Dec 2005 1:53pm
kiter was not injured but very shaken and sad about the whole incident. he assisted with getting the windsurfer back to shore and an ambulance was called. kiter said he looked behind but didnt see anyone then turned, heard a shout but collision was unavoidable. he never mentioned anything about doin a transition.i hope the windsurfer is recovering well and hope we can all learn from this without gettin into a slanging match with windsurfers. just remember this could easily have been a windsurfer-windsurfer or kitesurfer-kitesurfer accident so be aware of other traffic at all times.
p.s. the kiter is insured as we all should be
SurfConnect
SurfConnect
QLD
1674 posts
QLD, 1674 posts
28 Dec 2005 9:35am
Sad to see yet another incident. We really need to be much more considerate and responsible, then both kiters n windsurfers can share and enjoy the water to the same extent. Understanding your own capabilities, the right of way and show respect to others will also ensure a happy and unite community.
ran
ran
VIC
333 posts
ran ran
VIC, 333 posts
28 Dec 2005 2:16pm
damn, sad to hear about this, in noosa where i kite we only have a few old school boys on windsurfers so its not too much of an issue, but from my experience (collision) its easier for the kiter to move around the windsurfer, i found that they can point higher so i usually pass downwind when on a collision course. Not that this incident sounds like a simple head to head, so healing thoughts to em both.
samio
samio
WA
183 posts
WA, 183 posts
28 Dec 2005 10:16pm
i know this is an obvious question, but how do i get insurance for any damage i may do while kiting, its been mentioned b4 but i never really took much notice coz i was too hyped up about getting on the water.... so if anyone could give me some direction to how to get insured itd be gahrate.
Andrew73
Andrew73
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
28 Dec 2005 11:12pm
Hey sam you can get insurance by becoming a member of WAKSA if in WA or through AKSA.

kiteboardingwa.org.au/
www.aksa.com.au/

It will cost you $60 per annum.
Or you could organize it through another insurance company if you were so inclined. I'm not sure who provides what. Try using your the search funtion on this site, it may provides some results.
CODY
CODY
WA
56 posts
WA, 56 posts
29 Dec 2005 8:58am
If you are kiting and you are not a WASKA member you are not being responsible to your self or the sport!
Tina
Tina
WA
27 posts
WA, 27 posts
30 Dec 2005 12:07am
International Kiteboarder Insurance for travelers and kiters alike is available thru IKO. www.ikorg.com

It is a more comprehensive policy and covers you for heaps more.
Cheers
Damo
Damo
WA
641 posts
WA, 641 posts
30 Dec 2005 12:06pm
tina what does the IKO insurance cover you for that the waksa doesnt???
dachopper
dachopper
WA
1802 posts
WA, 1802 posts
30 Dec 2005 6:17pm
IKO insurance is also an offshore policy... just like you taking out a loan from an offshore bank thats' not in australia and all complaints etc ... go offshore
4lawn
4lawn
WA
83 posts
WA, 83 posts
30 Dec 2005 7:53pm
The insurance companies and the lawyers just love all this sh**...
Is there anything left in this world that you can't insure against ??
Does it mean that if you are insured you can now go out and not give a damn about being careful or other peoples safety ...
It doesn't matter ....Hey I'm insured ...
If you have insurance and an accident happens of course people will sue (or lawyers will encourage them to ) ...
Maybe you could just get realy pissed and lie in the middle of the road in the dead of night and wait for some poor unsuspecting driver to run over you ...I believe that's quite lucrative ...
Why the F*** can't everybody just take care of themselves ...Accidents happen ...Hey even walking can be dangerous you know you might fall over and hurt yourself ...Maybe we should get all the appropriate authorities to put up signs warning of the dangers of walking ...It's only a matter of time before someone falls over and sues ...But hey it doesn't matter coz their insurance will cover it ...Damn now I've got a bad case of RSI just typing this reply ...Who can I sue ??? The keyboard manufacturer ? The guy who made my desk ( it's too low ) nevermind I'll think of someone...
Lukeroo
Lukeroo
WA
45 posts
WA, 45 posts
30 Dec 2005 9:11pm
**SOMEWHAT OFF TOPIC**

"Poor unsuspecting driver"......

Come on.. He was driving on the road wasnt he....
Perhaps if the driver exercised a little care, he wouldnt have hit the guy passed out on the road. What if it was ur 2 year old kid crawling across the road. Surely its not the child's fault (or the parent's for that matter) that they got hit by a myopic driver who clearly wasnt paying adequate attention..

Im not supporting the drunken fool either, but surely there is a duty of care as a driver to other 'users' of the road.
4lawn
4lawn
WA
83 posts
WA, 83 posts
30 Dec 2005 9:52pm
If a 2 year old kid is crawling across the road at 4 am in the morning I reckon it just could be the parents fault ...
Hey Luke"roo" Is every driver that hits a kange"roo" on a country road also myopic and not paying adequate Attention ...Are you a Lawyer by any chance?
Lukeroo
Lukeroo
WA
45 posts
WA, 45 posts
30 Dec 2005 10:02pm
Geez.. The extent of your wit amazes me.

Not a lawyer, just realistic.

The subtle difference is..... the kangaroo wasnt lying in the middle of a suburban road.

Dont get me wrong, the drunk dude shouldnt have been there, but by no stretch of the imagination should the driver be void of blame.
When you drive, it is your responsibility to avoid forseeable danger (my own words). Otherwise, you could drive into a bloody bus or something, and claim, "oh hang on, i didnt see it", therefore its not my fault. Afterall, a driver shouldnt have to actually respond to an environment now should they.... how dare people need to think for themselves.
greenleader
greenleader
QLD
5283 posts
QLD, 5283 posts
31 Dec 2005 12:39am
there seems to be a bit of a sueing phobia creeping in here.

is this necessary!

things seem to get blown out of proportion by scaremongers.

seems to be a bit george dubbleya.

chill.

go back to the original topic and think sensibly.
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
31 Dec 2005 1:32am
Hey DaChopper,

Seeing as you have little idea of what you are talking about, why not read up and get a clue so you can have an opinion which comes from knowledge rather than heresay.

http://www.ikorg.com/kb_insurance.php

Download the pdf file to read up on the insurance, then try and find out anything about AKSA insurance and make your own minds up. Yes IKO insurance is offshore .... German Underwriters.

IKO insurance is for people who kite the world over, not just in Oz, it also covers you for injury to yourself, as well as salvage costs and death and disability to yourself as well as third party and property to others, also covers you for windsurfing.

Pretty easy to dis what you know nothing about

Good winds to all, even the uninformed


4lawn
4lawn
WA
83 posts
WA, 83 posts
31 Dec 2005 10:16am
Dang Thanks Lukeroo ...Nice to be appreciated ...
I actually have a policy protecting my wit ...If it ever leaves me I get a BIG payout ...Maybe I could use you as the litmus test..
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
31 Dec 2005 2:57pm
Has anyone actually used the AKSA provided insurance to cover damages which they have caused? just curious...
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
2 Jan 2006 9:57pm
quote:
Originally posted by CODY

If you are kiting and you are not a WASKA member you are not being responsible to your self or the sport!



WHY ?
not on board
not on board
210 posts
210 posts
3 Jan 2006 7:42am
I was at Safety Bay on Sat and had loads of fun loading up big jumps.
I was only kite on the water from 5 till dark. Only 5 or 6 wind surfers there as well. That story must have scared everyone away or else it was the fact that everyone had already started partying for the New Years eve. Anyway it was my first time there and even though the wind was crap (from 20 up to low 30 in constant gusts), the place is a great location. Glad I saved one day of my Christmas trip to go there.

Thanks to the windsurfer, that suggested launching at corner of bay. It was probably the smart thing to do and better safe then sorry.
ran
ran
VIC
333 posts
ran ran
VIC, 333 posts
3 Jan 2006 3:31pm
"That story must have scared everyone away"

well wish that they would stay away from Noosa (tourists/ newbies/ ****ers etc)its getting very busy in the river mouth, and with it being such a small area not alot of room for beginners to mess up, i swear i spend half my time swerving around dudes sitting in the middle with the kite above em, then they smash thier kite, nearly take out some swimmers, then drift down through the flattest section, all newbies and tourists stay down wind will you, please, and stay away from the tourist swimmers, all we need is one incident and we will be booted, the windsurfing crew get along with the kite crew fine now, so dont **** it up for us locals and the visiters that have half a brain.
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