Is there really any re-sale value in kites that are +5 years old even if in still good condition?
Would like to get newer gear but can't really justify the cost when my kite has nothing wrong with it.

Not really any resale value in anything any more except housing, and that is a perceived land value and a bitcoin like speculation.

everything in the market economy is built to break, so that more can be sold, based on a false promise that resources are infinite and everything can be made again.

if your kites work, replace the lines every few years and you'll be golden. If you want something better, think about why, will it make you better?

dachopper said..

doonut said..
Is there really any re-sale value in kites that are +5 years old even if in still good condition?
Would like to get newer gear but can't really justify the cost when my kite has nothing wrong with it.

It might be ok for now, but eventually the glue holding the seams or valves together, and the ripstop will perish the lines stretch and the canopy does also. If it's not been used, then problems are more about the glue.

I think this would only happen if the kite has multiple hours use in the sun and or was stored in a very hot place like a ceiling.

I have kites from 2012 which are still very good. Since I have 6 kites the ones some don't get used often, They are stored in a cool place in the garage. I recently sold my 13m which was 2012 for $300 no bar and lines. To be honest it was my best condition kite (not counting the 4m I bought last year).

Not much has changed in 6 years in kite design apart from different types of kites for different needs, If you are still using your kites and they suit your needs keep using them unless you want to change style.

Plummet said..

dachopper said..

doonut said..
Is there really any re-sale value in kites that are +5 years old even if in still good condition?
Would like to get newer gear but can't really justify the cost when my kite has nothing wrong with it.

It might be ok for now, but eventually the glue holding the seams or valves together, and the ripstop will perish the lines stretch and the canopy does also. If it's not been used, then problems are more about the glue.

I think this would only happen if the kite has multiple hours use in the sun and or was stored in a very hot place like a ceiling.

I have kites from 2012 which are still very good. Since I have 6 kites the ones some don't get used often, They are stored in a cool place in the garage. I recently sold my 13m which was 2012 for $300 no bar and lines. To be honest it was my best condition kite (not counting the 4m I bought last year).

Not much has changed in 6 years in kite design apart from different types of kites for different needs, If you are still using your kites and they suit your needs keep using them unless you want to change style.

I think there in lies the problem how do you know if it's been heat cycled or not for the past six years. If you bought it new and stored it in a temperature controlled room , and hardly used it fair enough. But in that case , why bother getting a new one if you hardly use it ?.

My bladders all started leaking on one of my f one kites , it was 6 years old and after a feeble repair attempt, I think 3 or 4 or the 11 bladders were still leaking. I use my kites all the time - made my decision easy, but they do stretch out of shape with use .

Some companies put new paint on every year , but some actually develop stuff. Particularly in the foiling / race field. But also wakestyle 6 line North bar came out in 15. Like it or not the click bar in 16/17.

Just waiting for the twinskin with reverse relaunch now. ??

pulse69 said..
I still have a 2009 Ozone Edge that I regularly kite with. Its copped a lot of abuse over the years but still going strong.

I shudder to think of the resale on that one! I dont think I could give it away.

Love the older Ozone kites, used mine till they were basically disintegrated. Would happily take it if you're giving it away!

dachopper said..

Plummet said..

dachopper said..

doonut said..
Is there really any re-sale value in kites that are +5 years old even if in still good condition?
Would like to get newer gear but can't really justify the cost when my kite has nothing wrong with it.

It might be ok for now, but eventually the glue holding the seams or valves together, and the ripstop will perish the lines stretch and the canopy does also. If it's not been used, then problems are more about the glue.

I think this would only happen if the kite has multiple hours use in the sun and or was stored in a very hot place like a ceiling.

I have kites from 2012 which are still very good. Since I have 6 kites the ones some don't get used often, They are stored in a cool place in the garage. I recently sold my 13m which was 2012 for $300 no bar and lines. To be honest it was my best condition kite (not counting the 4m I bought last year).

Not much has changed in 6 years in kite design apart from different types of kites for different needs, If you are still using your kites and they suit your needs keep using them unless you want to change style.

I think there in lies the problem how do you know if it's been heat cycled or not for the past six years. If you bought it new and stored it in a temperature controlled room , and hardly used it fair enough. But in that case , why bother getting a new one if you hardly use it ?.

My bladders all started leaking on one of my f one kites , it was 6 years old and after a feeble repair attempt, I think 3 or 4 or the 11 bladders were still leaking. I use my kites all the time - made my decision easy, but they do stretch out of shape with use .

Some companies put new paint on every year , but some actually develop stuff. Particularly in the foiling / race field. But also wakestyle 6 line North bar came out in 15. Like it or not the click bar in 16/17.

Just waiting for the twinskin with reverse relaunch now. ??

Maybe its an issue in a hotter climate. Not a problem here in NZ. I have never had one failed bladder due to delamination or any head related issues at all.

MarkusKarkus said..

Plummet said..

dachopper said..

Plummet said..

dachopper said..

doonut said..
Is there really any re-sale value in kites that are +5 years old even if in still good condition?
Would like to get newer gear but can't really justify the cost when my kite has nothing wrong with it.

It might be ok for now, but eventually the glue holding the seams or valves together, and the ripstop will perish the lines stretch and the canopy does also. If it's not been used, then problems are more about the glue.

I think this would only happen if the kite has multiple hours use in the sun and or was stored in a very hot place like a ceiling.

I have kites from 2012 which are still very good. Since I have 6 kites the ones some don't get used often, They are stored in a cool place in the garage. I recently sold my 13m which was 2012 for $300 no bar and lines. To be honest it was my best condition kite (not counting the 4m I bought last year).

Not much has changed in 6 years in kite design apart from different types of kites for different needs, If you are still using your kites and they suit your needs keep using them unless you want to change style.

I think there in lies the problem how do you know if it's been heat cycled or not for the past six years. If you bought it new and stored it in a temperature controlled room , and hardly used it fair enough. But in that case , why bother getting a new one if you hardly use it ?.

My bladders all started leaking on one of my f one kites , it was 6 years old and after a feeble repair attempt, I think 3 or 4 or the 11 bladders were still leaking. I use my kites all the time - made my decision easy, but they do stretch out of shape with use .

Some companies put new paint on every year , but some actually develop stuff. Particularly in the foiling / race field. But also wakestyle 6 line North bar came out in 15. Like it or not the click bar in 16/17.

Just waiting for the twinskin with reverse relaunch now. ??

Maybe its an issue in a hotter climate. Not a problem here in NZ. I have never had one failed bladder due to delamination or any head related issues at all.

Might not just be the climate. Maybe it's how well you service your prostate.

Lame.

psychojoe said..
I'm scared to even give away my five year old kite in case it hurts someone

Are you serious? My 2009 ozone sport+ is easily as safe as my 2017 rebel. You need to go back a fair bit more than 5 years to find a dangerous kite.

If the lines are all out of whack, and it's been repaired by a rum-pig using a fishing hook and hay bailing twine, then that's another story.

dachopper said..

Plummet said..

dachopper said..

Plummet said..

dachopper said..

doonut said..
Is there really any re-sale value in kites that are +5 years old even if in still good condition?
Would like to get newer gear but can't really justify the cost when my kite has nothing wrong with it.

It might be ok for now, but eventually the glue holding the seams or valves together, and the ripstop will perish the lines stretch and the canopy does also. If it's not been used, then problems are more about the glue.

I think this would only happen if the kite has multiple hours use in the sun and or was stored in a very hot place like a ceiling.

I have kites from 2012 which are still very good. Since I have 6 kites the ones some don't get used often, They are stored in a cool place in the garage. I recently sold my 13m which was 2012 for $300 no bar and lines. To be honest it was my best condition kite (not counting the 4m I bought last year).

Not much has changed in 6 years in kite design apart from different types of kites for different needs, If you are still using your kites and they suit your needs keep using them unless you want to change style.

I think there in lies the problem how do you know if it's been heat cycled or not for the past six years. If you bought it new and stored it in a temperature controlled room , and hardly used it fair enough. But in that case , why bother getting a new one if you hardly use it ?.

My bladders all started leaking on one of my f one kites , it was 6 years old and after a feeble repair attempt, I think 3 or 4 or the 11 bladders were still leaking. I use my kites all the time - made my decision easy, but they do stretch out of shape with use .

Some companies put new paint on every year , but some actually develop stuff. Particularly in the foiling / race field. But also wakestyle 6 line North bar came out in 15. Like it or not the click bar in 16/17.

Just waiting for the twinskin with reverse relaunch now. ??

Maybe its an issue in a hotter climate. Not a problem here in NZ. I have never had one failed bladder due to delamination or any head related issues at all.

I don't know what it is exactly.... even manufacturers only offer a 1 year warranty for bladders - must be a reason - they are basically ballons.

First time you travel and have your 6 year old kite sh1t itself thousands of miles from the nearest kits shop..... you'll say never again.

Most just as likely to wreck something on a new kite, I always travel with a spares and repairs bag

My bladder also started leaking....

richswing said..
My kites are 2007-2009 era.

I've got two 7m's which are my go-to kites and I will keep on flying them until the material gives up. Every so often I have to do soem valve repairs which I have mastered usign the original valves and are 10 times better than the bought replacement valves, it gives me something to do in winter. And every so often I have to make up some 5th line replacements wwhere it wears out with the bar slifing up and down.

Generally once a season I coat the canopy with UV protectant and its all good.

Anything sub 2005-2007 I agrre that you should not sell on though unless the guy knows what he is in for and has similar kites.

Too many nannies and bull poop going around.

I just buy new sh1t every 12 months. Never broken a thing, never needed spares.