Shortening lines

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Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
27 Jan 2015 8:20pm
Hi,
Does anyone know in Perth someone who can professionally shorten flying lines? Niel in Hold the Line is unfortunately unwell, and not going to work for an uncertain time, so I need an alternative...
Thanks
Andrash
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
27 Jan 2015 8:56pm
Jasper in O'connor dos good work too. Can't remember his business name though.
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
27 Jan 2015 9:10pm
NickT said..
Jasper in O'connor dos good work too. Can't remember his business name though.


Any phone number...? "Jasper in O'connor" is kind of vague...
Yves
Yves
WA
134 posts
WA, 134 posts
27 Jan 2015 9:11pm
Andrash said..

NickT said..
Jasper in O'connor dos good work too. Can't remember his business name though.



Any phone number...? "Jasper in O'connor" is kind of vague...


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Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
27 Jan 2015 9:16pm
Thanks Mate,
I shot out an email, and I ring him tomorrow.
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
28 Jan 2015 2:19pm
Unfortunately they do only kite repair, not shortening the lines. It needs that sleeve to saw up the loop...
Anyone else in Perth...?
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
28 Jan 2015 7:17pm
Andrash said..

Niel in Hold the Line is unfortunately unwell, and not going to work for an uncertain time


I hope you're not suffering too much.

Get well soon,

Pete.
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
28 Jan 2015 8:35pm
I don't suffer more than any of us on a hot windless avo....
But thanks for your concern, Pete
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
29 Jan 2015 2:53am
waveslave said..

Andrash said..

Niel in Hold the Line is unfortunately unwell, and not going to work for an uncertain time



I hope you're not suffering too much.

Get well soon,

Pete.


spoke to him today, he is having some serious (but no uncommon) heart surgery. 3 or so different procedures in one. He is positive about it, but looking at a good three weeks after next week before he can consider doing any more work. FYI
NeilT
NeilT
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
31 Jan 2015 8:54am
Andrash..... I'm around for 3 more days and feeling good. Feel free to text me and come around one morning.
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
31 Jan 2015 9:39am
Get well soon Neil.

Nick
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
2 Feb 2015 12:42pm
How short do you need them? You could always buy training lines, some brands offer them for the schools for teaching.
johnnydiesel
johnnydiesel
WA
8 posts
WA, 8 posts
2 Feb 2015 1:09pm
Jesper Sailpower 0439 978 365 but he is in Japan Snowboarding for the next two weeks
Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
2 Feb 2015 5:18pm
25m lines shortening to 22m. Neil did this for me a number of times. Jesper is away, and his workshop does not have the sleeves to saw up the loop properly, so by the time it was done it may well be the end of season. I was hoping that there was someone to this work now, as it otherwise may take about half an hour to do.
Cheers
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
3 Feb 2015 2:21pm
If you don't mind me asking, whats the difference? does the 12% difference in length actually help the kite turn significantly faster?

robbo1111
robbo1111
NSW
655 posts
NSW, 655 posts
3 Feb 2015 7:27pm
You can splice the lines without having to sew the loop. If you google "zacher knot" it will show you.
When I used to kite I was forever making my own line lengths, once you've done it a couple of times your speed improves
crakas
crakas
QLD
468 posts
QLD, 468 posts
3 Feb 2015 8:29pm
Robbo is correct, I have used the Zacher knot for many years. One of the best knots I know. I have used it on flying lings then added a pig tail by a larks-head knot in 3 mm dyneema....

One of the good things with the Zacher knot is that can be easily undone and adjusted to suit line stretch & shrink should the need arise, all you need to do is leave a little tail on the knot.

B


Andrash
Andrash
WA
637 posts
WA, 637 posts
4 Feb 2015 9:58pm
Thanks Robbo1111 and Crakas, I will try that knot. If it works, it saves a lot of hassle, and gives the possibility to experiment.
Flyingcab, there were discussions on line length some long time ago when I was more frequent visitor, and fair bit of experiments. That 12% does make a big difference in flying the kite. Try to fly the kite with 30% shorter, or 30% longer lines, and you will know that 12%-15% means compromise. A 15m line makes the kite nearly impossible to handle, while on 30m lines may keep falling off the sky in gusty winds. Even a few meters shorter line will make your kite a different breed... Opinions, of course, differ... but that's mine : -)
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
5 Feb 2015 7:54am
eppo said...
waveslave said..

Andrash said..

Niel in Hold the Line is unfortunately unwell, and not going to work for an uncertain time



I hope you're not suffering too much.

Get well soon,

Pete.


spoke to him today, he is having some serious (but no uncommon) heart surgery. 3 or so different procedures in one. He is positive about it, but looking at a good three weeks after next week before he can consider doing any more work. FYI


Apparently the heart surgeon let Neil stitch himself up,
flyingcab
flyingcab
VIC
942 posts
VIC, 942 posts
5 Feb 2015 2:03pm
Thanks Andrash, maybe I'll go experiment one day

snalberski
snalberski
WA
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