Sick of Spray in the Eyes?

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dachopper
dachopper
WA
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31 Dec 2010 10:08am
Hi guys,

I was fiddling with the settings on my new North Vegas while my misses was out riding it.

She went out with the front line on front most setting ( first time out like this ), she was getting a lot of spray in the eyes because of her stance, as she would hold the bar further away from her body.

came in - changed the front line to the back setting, went back out.

No spray, & she would ride with the bar closer in because of the depower throw being smaller

Give it a try !
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
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31 Dec 2010 6:12pm




Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
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2057 posts
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31 Dec 2010 9:06pm
That's what your trim strap (depower) is designed for. You should always trim your kite for each session (and during each session) so that the bar is in a comfortable place for good body position.

Too many (Cabrinha?) riders refuse to adjust this strap because they think that it depowers the kite. This results in poor stance and oversheeting.

Poo stance is the main result of poor trim adjustment.

Watching the kiters at Caloundra today I would estimate that 50% of them had their kites trimmed incorrectly. Good trim is the secret to good stance.

Every lesson should include instructions on using the trim adjustment. Calling it a depower strap is the worst thing that happened to good stance.
wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
WA, 1501 posts
31 Dec 2010 8:55pm
Whatever are you going on about Dave? Pulling trim on is wasting your boost. Big huge air is very important, and you can still hold your stance you just need to enjoy the back leg burn
KiteSUP
KiteSUP
QLD
51 posts
QLD, 51 posts
31 Dec 2010 11:16pm
what he said above
PsYLoR
PsYLoR
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31 Dec 2010 11:33pm
Sorry but bigwavedave is spot on here, Wishy, thats like saying aeroplanes should fly with flaps down all the time. durp durp happy near year retard.
eppo
eppo
WA
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31 Dec 2010 10:04pm
Spray in the eyes... um well now I've heard it all.

I am sincerely glad though you have the spray issue sorted
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
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2057 posts
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1 Jan 2011 1:47am
Some of you young fellas should actually pay attention to old farts occasionally!

Oversheeting your kite will not help you boost bigger. It will cause your kite to stall or become aerodynamically unsound.

Your trim should be set so that there is no stall possible at maximum sheet.

Read the fricking instructions.

You poo stancers annoy the f%$k out of the rest of us. It's embarrassing to watch you drop a turd while thinking you can kite. Straight arms, falling on your face, it's painful to watch.

Don't think depower, think trim and kite properly.

This especially goes for all you Switchblade riders with bucket hats, sunnies, gloves and reel leashes.

Now i feel better. Been meaning to get that off my chest for 5 years now.
mofo
mofo
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91 posts
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1 Jan 2011 2:15am
Bigwavedave said...

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You poo stancers annoy the f%$k out of the rest of us. It's embarrassing to watch you drop a turd while thinking you can kite. Straight arms, falling on your face, it's painful to watch.

Don't think depower, think trim and kite properly.

This especially goes for all you Switchblade riders with bucket hats, sunnies, gloves and reel leashes.

Now i feel better. Been meaning to get that off my chest for 5 years now.


What he said + 1
dachopper
dachopper
WA
1802 posts
WA, 1802 posts
1 Jan 2011 12:48am
Depowering with the trim strap just moves the center point of your depower throw in a direction, and when you want the power back you need to adjust the trim strap again - meanwhile there is still a big throw required to go through the available range of power with or without pulling the trim strap

Moving the front lines back made the depower & the working depower throw smaller - so your never tempted to go into poo man because it buys you nothing. Kite also site better further back in th window


Glasses - are ok but hard to see the surface of the water sometimes & they "crusty" & scratched easily.

Happy New Years

Bigwavedave said...

That's what your trim strap (depower) is designed for. You should always trim your kite for each session (and during each session) so that the bar is in a comfortable place for good body position.

Too many (Cabrinha?) riders refuse to adjust this strap because they think that it depowers the kite. This results in poor stance and oversheeting.

Poo stance is the main result of poor trim adjustment.

Watching the kiters at Caloundra today I would estimate that 50% of them had their kites trimmed incorrectly. Good trim is the secret to good stance.

Every lesson should include instructions on using the trim adjustment. Calling it a depower strap is the worst thing that happened to good stance.


KiterMan
KiterMan
NSW
21 posts
NSW, 21 posts
1 Jan 2011 9:16am
I've seen You kite Nick (Wishy), you need to take Daves advice man.

jas73
jas73
QLD
796 posts
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1 Jan 2011 10:25am
I wouldnt think changing line settings would change the distance of your bar throw that much that your stance would be affected. Spray off the front of your board is normally from the way you ride the board and seems to get less with experience.
dachopper said...

Hi guys,

I was fiddling with the settings on my new North Vegas while my misses was out riding it.

She went out with the front line on front most setting ( first time out like this ), she was getting a lot of spray in the eyes because of her stance, as she would hold the bar further away from her body.

came in - changed the front line to the back setting, went back out.

No spray, & she would ride with the bar closer in because of the depower throw being smaller

Give it a try !


eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
1 Jan 2011 10:04am
Bigwavedave said...

Some of you young fellas should actually pay attention to old farts occasionally!

Oversheeting your kite will not help you boost bigger. It will cause your kite to stall or become aerodynamically unsound.

Your trim should be set so that there is no stall possible at maximum sheet.

Read the fricking instructions.

You poo stancers annoy the f%$k out of the rest of us. It's embarrassing to watch you drop a turd while thinking you can kite. Straight arms, falling on your face, it's painful to watch.

Don't think depower, think trim and kite properly.

This especially goes for all you Switchblade riders with bucket hats, sunnies, gloves and reel leashes.

Now i feel better. Been meaning to get that off my chest for 5 years now.




Woh! chill big dave... although i do agree with your sentiment. The old days when we flew two lines foils, you had to learn to lean back and edge, like hanging off an 'carabina'. Due to the amazing depower a lot of guys do indeed ride poo stance...

but it doesn't seem to phase me as much as it does you big dave...

Anyhow what's the relationship between trimming correclty so you don't ride poo stance and spray in the eyes?? That's what has got me stuffed!
default
default
WA
1255 posts
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1 Jan 2011 12:42pm
Bigwavedave said...

This especially goes for all you Switchblade riders with bucket hats, sunnies, gloves and reel leashes.


lol, you forgot to add... wearing steamer wetties and booties...and perhaps a pfd to boot. Now thats accessorising!!
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
1 Jan 2011 4:01pm
If you are constantly reaching forward because the cruising position of your bar is too far away, you will be in the poo stance position.

By adjusting your 'depower' so that the sweet spot is within comfortable reach, with arms bent, you can attain the proper body position with your weight behind your heels.

Too many riders think that this adjustment will depower the kite. Rather, it removes the possibility of over sheeting, and aids to achieve the proper body position.

Just because newish kites have 2 ft of bar throw doesn't mean the kite needs it. If you can stall the kite, you need to trim your kite. Pretty simple really.

I only mentioned Cabrinha because the Switchy is the kite of choice for lots of newbies here and newbies think that trimming the kite will reduce the power.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
1 Jan 2011 2:57pm
Sounds like I need to get myself a Cab Switch.
graceful
graceful
WA
773 posts
WA, 773 posts
2 Jan 2011 7:01pm
Thats what the stopper ball is for mate!!!
For sure you pull in a couple of cm to allow for over sheeting but not that much to adjust bar throw!!!
But we rarely have little enough wind to stall kites over here anyways
loudas
loudas
NSW
51 posts
NSW, 51 posts
2 Jan 2011 10:08pm
The girls I know love a spray in the face. Put some glasses on her and it should stop the stinging. Happy new year!
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
2 Jan 2011 9:14pm
loudas said...

The girls I know love a spray in the face. Put some glasses on her and it should stop the stinging. Happy new year!




Dude, public forum, chicks use this site. Poor form, but hilarious nevertheless. Reckon keep that kind of thing non-public.
buzingfridge
buzingfridge
WA
147 posts
WA, 147 posts
2 Jan 2011 9:30pm
loudas said...

The girls I know love a spray in the face. Put some glasses on her and it should stop the stinging. Happy new year!


thats funny.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
3 Jan 2011 1:03am
Bigwavedave said...

If you are constantly reaching forward because the cruising position of your bar is too far away, you will be in the poo stance position.

By adjusting your 'depower' so that the sweet spot is within comfortable reach, with arms bent, you can attain the proper body position with your weight behind your heels.

Too many riders think that this adjustment will depower the kite. Rather, it removes the possibility of over sheeting, and aids to achieve the proper body position.

Just because newish kites have 2 ft of bar throw doesn't mean the kite needs it. If you can stall the kite, you need to trim your kite. Pretty simple really.

I only mentioned Cabrinha because the Switchy is the kite of choice for lots of newbies here and newbies think that trimming the kite will reduce the power.


Some people don't understand that trimming is actually about getting more power lol. I would love to see some people these days ride with a pulley bar/2 liner, the art of managing kite power with board skills is lost these days.
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
3 Jan 2011 2:41am
You are so right monkey boy!
Spacemonkey! said...

Bigwavedave said...

If you are constantly reaching forward because the cruising position of your bar is too far away, you will be in the poo stance position.

By adjusting your 'depower' so that the sweet spot is within comfortable reach, with arms bent, you can attain the proper body position with your weight behind your heels.

Too many riders think that this adjustment will depower the kite. Rather, it removes the possibility of over sheeting, and aids to achieve the proper body position.

Just because newish kites have 2 ft of bar throw doesn't mean the kite needs it. If you can stall the kite, you need to trim your kite. Pretty simple really.

I only mentioned Cabrinha because the Switchy is the kite of choice for lots of newbies here and newbies think that trimming the kite will reduce the power.


Some people don't understand that trimming is actually about getting more power lol. I would love to see some people these days ride with a pulley bar/2 liner, the art of managing kite power with board skills is lost these days.


wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
WA, 1501 posts
3 Jan 2011 9:21am
If you have an incredibly quick kite that has light bar pressure and can be depowered by edging hard you will never need your trim. Sounds like you guys are flying absolute mudslingers?
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
3 Jan 2011 2:42pm
spray in the face is more about your stance than the kite trim, straighten your front leg, bend your back leg and plant the pressure. You should be leaning into the harness with your rear foot as a pivot point ie: 80% of the pressure. ( different winds require different pressure and ratios of front to back pressure.

Kite trim is important fir your stance....without the kite being trimmed properly you will not be able to hold the correct stance.
RPM
RPM
WA
1549 posts
RPM RPM
WA, 1549 posts
3 Jan 2011 1:03pm
Bigwavedave said...

Some of you young fellas should actually pay attention to old farts occasionally!



You poo stancers annoy the f%$k out of the rest of us. It's embarrassing to watch you drop a turd while thinking you can kite. Straight arms, falling on your face, it's painful to watch.

This especially goes for all you Switchblade riders with bucket hats, sunnies, gloves and reel leashes.




First person who says it exactly how I think. And what about the spastic on the SB with the nose plaster.. Jeez what a unit!

RPM
RPM
WA
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RPM RPM
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3 Jan 2011 1:04pm
wishy said...

If you have an incredibly quick kite that has light bar pressure and can be depowered by edging hard you will never need your trim. Sounds like you guys are flying absolute mudslingers?


true....

how did you go at cervantes N?
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