Single rogue shark or multiple?

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IvorWindeas
IvorWindeas
WA
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17 Jul 2012 2:19pm
I haven't seen much discussion on this, despite all the media frenzy over the WA attacks. Its not just science fiction- eg Jaws. Rogue sharks are well documented- there have been rogue Tiger sharks in Mexico responsible for spates of attacks, and the recent spate in the red sea.
To me it seems more likely that there is a single large great white that has developed the taste for humans, than multiple sharks all changing behaviour at once, despite all the "over fishing" arguments. The recent attacks have been more than a mistaken nibble and swimming away. The victims were eaten. All the attacks in WA could easily have been a single shark, which can go for months without eating, hence the time gap between attacks and the varying locations along the coast.
I don't think it is scare mongering to say there is a single man eater out there, in fact it is reassuring- catch this beast and sharks attacks may return to previous low levels.
Therefore it seems reasonable that every effort should be made to catch this shark. If a human serial killer was loose, no end of resources would be used to catch the perpetrator. In the event of another attack, multiple planes, helicopters, boats should be sent out and any shark found with in a large radius of the attack should be killed, and if possible an autopsy done to look for evidence of human remains. So what if a few innocent sharks get killed, I think that would be a better plan than a whole scale cull.
Interested to know what others think, I'm sure the thumbs will be revealing....
Zed
Zed
WA
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Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
17 Jul 2012 2:47pm
Most of the WA attacks the shark hasnt eaten the victim and the sizes of the shark have varied. The Rotto shark was 'small' - 3m compared to the others around 5m. People could be wrong with their estimates though.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
17 Jul 2012 6:01pm
True. That would change a lot of ideas put out by researchers. Imagine if it was the tagged 5m that has been setting of the beacons
Addikt
Addikt
WA
553 posts
WA, 553 posts
17 Jul 2012 6:30pm
Not sure if it applies to Sharks, but Lions become Man Eaters and are known to develop a taste for "Man meat" I would say this is more out of laziness than taste so could this theory also apply to sharks......

There are a lot of guys that fish the Sound and around Woodies that swear there is a local, and what about the big one that was seen about 4 years ago at Mindarie by that group of divers. A 4m - 5m shark could easily cover that span of water in a few hours.

It would be "nice to know" that is is one that could be taken out maybe the Fisheries Department know more than we do but s big shark with some man remains in it would put WA on the map again as a tourist destination, I know the odd I know what most will say but to the general tourist would probably opt to go somewhere else....


ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
17 Jul 2012 10:10pm
And how many would you kill and dissect looking for human remains before you realize that it's a fool's errand?

Everyone wants a demon rather than accept that life is dangerous.
Addikt
Addikt
WA
553 posts
WA, 553 posts
17 Jul 2012 10:41pm
How many 5m's are out there......
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
18 Jul 2012 9:19am
Its not one, its lots
wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
WA, 1501 posts
18 Jul 2012 9:58am
IvorWindeas said...

I haven't seen much discussion on this, despite all the media frenzy over the WA attacks. Its not just science fiction- eg Jaws. Rogue sharks are well documented- there have been rogue Tiger sharks in Mexico responsible for spates of attacks, and the recent spate in the red sea.
To me it seems more likely that there is a single large great white that has developed the taste for humans, than multiple sharks all changing behaviour at once, despite all the "over fishing" arguments. The recent attacks have been more than a mistaken nibble and swimming away. The victims were eaten. All the attacks in WA could easily have been a single shark, which can go for months without eating, hence the time gap between attacks and the varying locations along the coast.
I don't think it is scare mongering to say there is a single man eater out there, in fact it is reassuring- catch this beast and sharks attacks may return to previous low levels.
Therefore it seems reasonable that every effort should be made to catch this shark. If a human serial killer was loose, no end of resources would be used to catch the perpetrator. In the event of another attack, multiple planes, helicopters, boats should be sent out and any shark found with in a large radius of the attack should be killed, and if possible an autopsy done to look for evidence of human remains. So what if a few innocent sharks get killed, I think that would be a better plan than a whole scale cull.
Interested to know what others think, I'm sure the thumbs will be revealing....


Of course it is the same shark.
His name is Brutus.
It was clearly stated in the PerthNow Article.
I just wish it would eat some of the losers in Perth, it seems like all the blokes eaten have been really genuinely awesome people which is upsetting for all their family and friends.
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
18 Jul 2012 8:26pm
fkn hundreds, maybe thousands IMHO
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
18 Jul 2012 9:48pm
how do you know if a shark is a rogue? do they like interview the sharks parents or summit,
hookworm
hookworm
VIC
600 posts
VIC, 600 posts
19 Jul 2012 10:18am
Easy just look for the tattoos on its fins
Luther
Luther
84 posts
84 posts
19 Jul 2012 9:22pm
Why is a shark a "rogue" if it changes it's dietary habits in its own environment ??? We humans change our dietary habits on a regular basis....out of fear we tend to have biased humanistic views of other animals we share this planet with.
Murf1
Murf1
WA
256 posts
WA, 256 posts
20 Jul 2012 8:17am
www.ted.com/about/conferences/past-teds/ted2013-talent-search;TEDSydney#.T_tjB20VW6U.twitter

just putting it out there
suniboy21
suniboy21
VIC
1090 posts
VIC, 1090 posts
20 Jul 2012 11:43am
Monkeyfish said...

www.ted.com/about/conferences/past-teds/ted2013-talent-search;TEDSydney#.T_tjB20VW6U.twitter

just putting it out there


5 minutes and 43 seconds of my life wasted!
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
20 Jul 2012 11:14am
^^Two lines stood out for me
"In the gospel according to Jaws"
and his closing line
"We're in the way not on the menu"

I'm not a believer in the single rogue shark theory, I believe it is multiple, the trouble is that multiple seems to be rapidly increasing.
Addikt
Addikt
WA
553 posts
WA, 553 posts
20 Jul 2012 4:31pm
I think that there are a few that are getting bigger and bigger each yeah and whether it be out of curiosity or easy prey we are getting munched on, if the odds are so slim for some to get attached by a shark them I don't see why if a shark is killed each time it attacks/kills someone it would have a dent on the population and I for one would purely through peace of mind feel better about getting in the water.......but its getting the guilty one that will be tricky..........

SugarQube
SugarQube
WA
490 posts
WA, 490 posts
20 Jul 2012 6:31pm
One thing is certain, single shark or multiple, this /these sharks have learnt that humanns are easy prey now, next time past our coastline some poor bugger will be the next victim.

Only pattern I can see is that a lot of the attacks have taken place in the early morning hours
iti
iti
QLD
417 posts
iti iti
QLD, 417 posts
20 Jul 2012 10:59pm
did you see the news today with the great white of karnet island all i can say is farrrrrrrk
Leroy B
Leroy B
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
21 Jul 2012 10:23am
Of course it's as hard to pick as a booger on a peak hour train but a farmer was telling me of the occasional bull they would get that was fine, fine and then would turn nasty and try to pin you to a wall. He said they used to take them out of the breeding pool to avoid passing on the genes.

My old man bred horses and as soon as a colt showed a nasty streak it would unfortunately turn up in the dogs dinner bowl. It's a shame but one kick to the head by a horse does wonders for you're experiencing the afterlife.

I'm wondering if any research has shown similar 'bad temper' genes in sharks?
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