Cut & Paste from another thread.
Apologies Sammy. I thought it needed a heading mentioning 'the Pond"

SammyJ said...

I was surprised to see no one post this already. Anyway I guess this is a wake up call to those that think the rules don't apply to them. Now the council has publicly aired it's concerns they can say, "well we told you all to behave yourselves and get along like good little boys and girls".



Below is a link to an example of the guidelines, you'll find the same sign at all entry points to the pond for kiters and poley's alike.

www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=126064827413021&v=photos&ref=ts

It took a lot of time, effort, meetings, travelling and a hell of a lot of cooperation and understanding from a lot of areas to achieve the 'best possible for all' result in this particular beach access issue.
Kiters have been allocated the offshore inside butter section. What more could we ask for? The rest of the guidelines are so so so simple to work with that anyone who doesnt respect them deserves to be drummed out of town.
Seriously. If everyone is asked nicely to obey the 'guidelines' then those who dont should be made to realise they would be better off kiting elsewhere.
Not suggesting violence (or even agro) of any kind but constant hassling and annoying - then walking away - would soon get the message through. There was a group at melville a few years back that moved on of their own free will after their tyres all became flat every time they parked there???. Serious serial offenders - several pleasant requests to behave - no agro - no hassles - but a fair and just and positive outcome.

As the article says - it is all guidelines not enforcable regulations.
If the locals dont police it then start looking for a new beach.
The next move by the authorities will be very easily enforced - it will simply ban kiting altogether. No flat water ; no chop ; simply no kiting.
Abusing the privilege we have been awarded is selfish and stupid and, whats more, totally unnecessary.
The tourists wont care - they can just move on.
If you locals want it then its up to you now to keep it - for all of us.

It is that serious. Apart from its obvious local user appeal the Pond is the premium public viewing site in WA for potential national and international flat water events. We MUST keep it open.

Same sort of article in our local rag Melville Times about Attadale foreshore.

Beach 'lost to tide and kites'
By JESSICA NICO
A RESIDENT who uses Attadale dog beach is asking for a stretch of it above the high water mark to be for the sole use of dog walkers, so they are not affected by high tides or over-run by kite surfers and school canoeing classes.

Graham Boswell and his wife have been using the dog beach for the past five years but are now finding it difficult.

"When the tide is high we have just 200m of beach to use and half the area is covered by water right up to the reeds, making it unusable by dog walkers," he said.

"When the tide is a bit lower we get maybe 300m."

Mr Boswell has also noticed a rise in the number of kite surfers using the dog beach. "The kite surfers use the beach when the wind's strength and direction is good for them, which could be any day of the week," he said.

"When the beach is used by people doing water-based sports, they can occupy anywhere between 25 to 100 per cent of the dog beach, making us unable to sit, relax and use the beach. The kite surfers can present a danger to the dogs and owners because of their speed."

Mr Boswell said he had talked with several residents whose dogs had been hit by kites.

He said the dog owners were afraid to return to the dog beach.

Friends of Attadale Foreshore chairman Mike Nichol said the sudden influx of kite surfers could harm the natural environment.

"We are most concerned about the rapid development of kite surfing in our area, and the numbers are growing exponentially, and the environmental impact on this sensitive area could be severe," he said.

The City of Melville was unable to comment before deadline.

http://www.communitydigital.com.au/olive/ode/MelvilleTimes/
page 7


Now thats a spot deemed for a ban anytime soon. People launching in the dog park, kiting in the nature reserve etc etc

puppetonastring said...

Cut & Paste from another thread.
Apologies Sammy. I thought it needed a heading mentioning 'the Pond"

I have no problem with that puppet, It's better coming from someone that has involvement with the association like yourself.

Charl dv said...

yet every time the locals fire up at the blokes who are ruining it they come on here and have a winge about localism and all that crap, then they return the next day and behave the same.

sad thing is there is pretty much no locals left at the pond

dish out some 'localism contact counselling' to those offenders I say.

Charl dv said...

yet every time the locals fire up at the blokes who are ruining it they come on here and have a winge about localism and all that crap, then they return the next day and behave the same.

sad thing is there is pretty much no locals left at the pond

It's the same with everything these days, you pretty much can not say anything without being stereotyped or labeled as something yourself.

Say something about someone (or group) who is of an ethnicity of something other than your own - your a racist.

Say something about someone who is a gender other than your own - your a sexist (unless your a female, then your a women's liberationist).

Give feedback on a product that isn't just s#cking the dick of who ever made it - you're a hater or a pimp from another brand.

Say you don't like someone's style - you're a hater.

Question the government or large organisations motives - you're a delusional conspiracist.

etc. etc. etc.

And people wonder why the world is getting stupider. It's really looking like Idiocracy was actually a documentary from the future.

It's the cultural issue in here and all over Oz. Not having respect to anything and anyone, thinking it's God given right to do whatever, is resulting in this.

Than, when we visit other countries, it's cultural shock for us ie. how people respect theirs elders, Gods, authorities, life in general, like driving on roads.

The society is worse day by day.

Why would I do the tyres, or become like them?

dbabicwa said...

It's the cultural issue in here and all over Oz. Not having respect to anything and anyone, thinking it's God given right to do whatever, is resulting in this.

Than, when we visit other countries, it's cultural shock for us ie. how people respect theirs elders, Gods, authorities, life in general, like driving on roads.

The society is worse day by day.

Why would I do the tyres, or become like them?

brooksy said...

Only going to get under more pressure after this articel: www.iksurfmag.com/issue25/?page=37

Ouch!! Yeah you're right. Reading that made my blood boil, heart rate increase & steam come out my ears. If you weren't sure of what idiots were contributing to the overcrowded ciaos over here... it names a few for you.

I've seen some certain toss pots highlight other sic locations and trying to fk those up too. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Show some kind of respect to the locals in these spots. Why can't you just go ride them spots with your mates? Why be a fkn hero and go out of your way to get as many toolbags as possible to go. Is it Dollars? or Does it makes you feel good releasing information like people are going to think that your got all the connections and a big fk off wheelbarrow full of knowledge.

It was only a few years ago before these ball bags came along that it was awesome, uncrowded, everyone knew everyone.... and it wasn't under any threat of being banned.

Someone opened the gate and let the arssshols in!!

What a load of twaddle!!!

How is your life worse than your parents???

Mine live through WW2 ffs.

You are just a soft little whinger upset by people having different views to you. You watch too much tv look at real crime statistics and you will find people have never been safer or as well off as we are now.

Less of the me me me it kiters would help

Ah, so you know how is to live through the war? Have you ever fired from the MK47? Into the live target, yes - HUMAN? Did you? Or listened the sound of MIG21 above your head second before he released the load?

You don't know me and have no respect what so ever who I might be...And that is exactly my point what is going on.

Go and live in Alice Springs and talk with the locals about safety. Or better, visit Broome, drive a car and pray to find all windows in place in the morning. Safety my ass. No one is reporting this to the police any more...And they can't crack it.

dbabicwa said...
Ah, so you know how is to live through the war? Have you ever fired from the MK47?

i've shot an AK47 in thailand, never heard of the MK47 and its not a typo as a and m are nowhere near each other unless you mashed the keybard with your face

SammyJ said...

brooksy said...

Only going to get under more pressure after this articel: www.iksurfmag.com/issue25/?page=37

I'm starting to think a ban could be a good thing, I know a lot will not agree, but I say that because it will make a majority of our local community a lot happier.

The irony is that immediately after the WA article is an article about spots receiving kite bans!

Thanks a bunch iksurfmag, glad you got your photo shoot.

i think i might go "like it" on fb and leave strings of abuse