Some questions regarding the Perth kiting area

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Kristoffer
Kristoffer
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15 Feb 2010 3:02pm
Hi I am one of those "euros" you have been talking about in so many good words
I have a few questions regarding Kite surfing in the Perth area, so I will give it a go.

I have recently started kite surfing in Sydney and I have been quite successful in it so far so I can't be placed under the label of "noob" anymore (25 sessions). I am now moving to Perth, more exactly Rockingham for some time and I have read that Safety bay is a amazing place to Kite surf on.

What I wounder is for a kite surfer that hasn't started doing areal tricks is it okey to surf the "Pond" that I have heard loads about or should I stick to a place called Shoalwater till I get to enjoy the "pond" a bit more?

Talked to a local here in Sydney about kiting in perth and he tells me my 12m kite is a bit to big for the weather conditions in perth is that true? (12m 08 Naish Helix, 132cm board and I weigh 72kilo).

I will only stay in Perth for about 6weeks and I would love to experience some good kiting while I am there. Any outher spots I should check out while I make my visit there?

Witch wind graph should I look at to get the correct wind measurement for safety bay?

I am asking these questions now so I don't rock up to the pond and piss of any locals. I have heard you have had some problems with ouer kind "euros" and I hope you can forgive uss.

If I do something wrong please come and give me a bitchslapp. I will be riding a pink and black kite I hope my visit to Safety bay will inspire outher euros to respect the locals that have to live and fight for there right to kite surf at great spots, while we travelers only rock upp and destroy.

Hope you won't bother to much with my spelling misstakes, I am still better then you on Swedish so

Regards the Sweed Kris
pynnee
pynnee
WA
164 posts
WA, 164 posts
15 Feb 2010 3:30pm
the main problem locals have are the tourists rocking up thinking they own the joint and thinking they are better then us because they are from another country. unfortunately 99% of those are from Europe but i have met far more Europeans who are great and considerate. my advise is head down to the local spot, watch for 30 min and make up your own mind if you can kite well enough then have a friendly chat to locals setting up. treat them like your a guest in their home and they will be eating out of your palm in no time :)
good luck with your travels mate
dusta
dusta
WA
2940 posts
WA, 2940 posts
15 Feb 2010 3:49pm
well for starters you cannot be classed as a "euro" as you have asked what the deal is with certain spots :)


Safety bay is fine for someone of your skill level. My advise is to forget the pond all together and drive further around the penguin island .
Danger Mouse
Danger Mouse
WA
592 posts
WA, 592 posts
15 Feb 2010 4:22pm
I agree with Dusta Kristoffer, Head around to Penguin Island and ask questions of the locals there. If you talk to people and ask questions about the spot (ie: anything you should know specific to the spot etc) then you should find 99% of the crew there more than welcoming I kite around there and if you want someone to head down and kite with, PM me as that's where I kite mostly.

Also want to say good on you for doing the right thing and being considerate of locals and promoting a good relationship between tourists and them (us).

D
Kristoffer
Kristoffer
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5 posts
15 Feb 2010 5:30pm
Thanks for the information guys! I will head out to pinguin island then for my first session:) but what graph should I be looking at before I head out and what wind directions are ok to kite there on? Should I look at garden island and mandurah or something else?

Trying to gather as much info before heding over to Perth.

Much apreciated! Kriss
FLYING ANT
FLYING ANT
WA
75 posts
WA, 75 posts
15 Feb 2010 5:51pm
For the most accurate wind measurement for the "pond" and "Pingos" (Shoalwater) check out Graphs - Western Australia - Metro - Than scroll down the page until you see the graph titled "Garden Island".

As far as the Pond gos...If you have started areal tricks, can bear off downwind, turn around quickly, stay above the moorings in the middle of the pond - so you don't piss off the wind-surfers and can keep heading towards the weed bank, not just hogging the flat water, than no, you wont piss of any locals...

Good Luck - Will keep an eye out for you...
snoopydog
snoopydog
WA
71 posts
WA, 71 posts
15 Feb 2010 9:31pm
good on u for asking, i do belive good relations can be built with a little firm foundationand respect for others home
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
16 Feb 2010 10:16am
Hey Kristo

About the 12m - Bring it, youll use it a lot as soon as the seabreeze disappears... the other kite size you should get is an 8m. when ya cant hold down the 12 - the 8 will be perfect and funaz

When you do eventually get in the pond, just be wary of the guys doing big air jumps or loops as they can travel down wind like being shot out of a gun ..
just observe where they normally jump from and follow the circuit etc

Welcome to Wild West

Cheerz
WallZie
WallZie
WA
87 posts
WA, 87 posts
16 Feb 2010 11:09am
Kristoffer said...

. Any outher spots I should check out while I make my visit there?



I'm thinking bout doing a skydiving course in Perth once I get some time up my sleeve. Its cheep once ya your qualified.... Would be great activity for a windless day IMO...

Enjoy WA there is just something about it
pynnee
pynnee
WA
164 posts
WA, 164 posts
16 Feb 2010 1:36pm
I've been a qualified sky diver for 2 years now and there is nothing cheap about it. Gear is around 3g second hand. Then ad aod 2.5g. Altimeter few hundred, jumpsuit 500. then you start paying for your ride up. 35 bucks a pop isn't much but when you do 4-5 a day it turns in to well over 150 bucks for less the 4 min of fun.. Then you have anual packs for your reserve and services on you aod. On saying that I wouldn't give the sport up for anything... Except lack of money which is now
Caesar
Caesar
QLD
109 posts
QLD, 109 posts
16 Feb 2010 4:03pm
SaveTheWhales said...

Hey Kristo
When you do eventually get in the pond, just be wary of the guys doing big air jumps or loops as they can travel down wind like being shot out of a gun ..
just observe where they normally jump from and follow the circuit etc
Welcome to Wild West
Cheerz


I guess you saw me there a few days ago.
Kristoffer
Kristoffer
5 posts
5 posts
17 Feb 2010 9:52am
Cheers guys!

Now the only thing I need is a jobb and I will be happy as a cucumber!
WallZie
WallZie
WA
87 posts
WA, 87 posts
17 Feb 2010 2:39pm
pynnee said...

I've been a qualified sky diver for 2 years now and there is nothing cheap about it. Gear is around 3g second hand. Then ad aod 2.5g. Altimeter few hundred, jumpsuit 500. then you start paying for your ride up. 35 bucks a pop isn't much but when you do 4-5 a day it turns in to well over 150 bucks for less the 4 min of fun.. Then you have anual packs for your reserve and services on you aod. On saying that I wouldn't give the sport up for anything... Except lack of money which is now


Haha tru that... was only thinkin of hiring gear and plane fuel.... but yeh guess it all adds up hey. mabe bace jumping? save on fuel yeh?? Cnt think of n e thing to jump off tho...
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
17 Feb 2010 7:18pm
Kristoffer said...

Cheers guys!

Now the only thing I need is a jobb and I will be happy as a cucumber!


Er... I don't know what you get up to in your country to acheive a happy cucumber but top marks for seeking info on the local scene.

Generally the Euro bagging occurs when travelers just lob in, act like the couldn't give a fek about right of way, sharing the space etc and don't give a fek as to the go around here.

Euros (or any nationalities) that show common sense usually have a great tiume and meet plenty of happy camper kiters.

If you are planning on ocean kiting, two tips I'd give (after noticing even sensible travelers doing it) are:

Don't shadow other riders into the shoreline/beach breaks. I guess (generally) it's not as crowded around here as parts of Euro etc. so there is just no need to sit up someone's freckle and most rider get pretty cranky if the turn off a wave or get shoed right up to the sand by someone shadowing).

Also, when in the waves right of way (bit contentious here) generally belongs to who-ever is in the break area or heading out past the break - regardless of port or starboard tack also.

Good luck and enjoy your time Cucumberoffer.
Kristoffer
Kristoffer
5 posts
5 posts
19 Feb 2010 3:53pm
Thanks guys for all the respons! and now I know more or less how to behave out there in the presitine water.

On a side not, I am broke and if someone needs a hand with anything and I do mean anything building, general labour, bartending or anything they can think of I will be more then happy to take the jobb.
I can work from this sunday

Please don't hesitate!
phone: 0451125517

Kris the cucumber
stoff
stoff
WA
248 posts
WA, 248 posts
19 Feb 2010 4:24pm
I might be able to give you a couple of days work .Got an old crop to pull out of my
greenhouses. As long as you dont mind working with cucumbers! Ha, Ha! and no,
i'm not joking, i am actually a cucumber farmer. Give you a call next week. Where
are you staying?
Kristoffer
Kristoffer
5 posts
5 posts
19 Feb 2010 6:11pm
Ohh haha! what a coicidence (I think its spelld) ;)

I will arrive on saturday and probably live in some dingy hostel somewhere. I am eager to get to work! Call me any on Sunday and we can sort out the details.

I am really stoked about commin down to Perth now :D

Kris the cucumber picker :)
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