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The 2017 Red Bull Lighthouse To Leighton - Returns For The Eighth Edition!

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Created by L2L A week ago, 7 Oct 2017
L2L
157 posts
7 Oct 2017 10:02AM
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Once again through the generous support of Red Bull and Tourism Western Australia the 2017 Red Bull Lighthouse to Leighton will be staged from Rottnest Island to Leighton Beach.

Cash prizes total $11,000 this year!
Capacity is 140 spots!
Entries are now open! Register at www.lighthouse2leighton.com.au
Entries close on Sunday 29th October.

Male: 55 spots for Twin Tips and 55 spots for Foil / Race.
Female: 12 spots for Twin Tips and 12 spots for Foil / Race.

All the information you need to know is here: www.lighthouse2leighton.com.au

:-)

windywander
WA, 50 posts
7 Oct 2017 10:50AM
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To clarify is it now mandatory to declare type of board used prior to raceday?

This is a change from previous years.

Still the same 2 kite rule?

Thanks

L2L
157 posts
7 Oct 2017 3:48PM
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windywander said..
To clarify is it now mandatory to declare type of board used prior to raceday?

This is a change from previous years.

Still the same 2 kite rule?

Thanks


Correct. When you enter the race you choose which 'board' category you will race on. This will then denote the colour of the lycra / rash vest you will wear. The basis for this is two fold:

1/ To make it easier to see who you are competing against and for spectators/ judges to see which category is arriving.
2/ There also is a 5 week order time line on the lycra/ rash vest, (custom made in France, bespoke for our race with pockets for flares and holes for your harness) hence the - new, yes - requirement to select your category of board.

Yes, the two kite rule will still apply and will be enforced. Again this is part of the spirit of the competition and also 'logistical' as remember everything has to (a) go to Rottnest Island on the ferry and (b) the gear you don't use has to be returned!

Our very amazing and generous sponsors, Rottnest Express, do a superb job in transporting all the kite gear safely and securely every year and our job is to make it as easy and hassle for for them in a very busy month (December) for holidays at Rottnest.

windywander
WA, 50 posts
7 Oct 2017 7:17PM
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Thanks for clarifying.

I totally understand the reasons for two kites etc, just not used to picking what board to use 2 months ahead of time.

Thanks again for organizing etc.

Simsurf
WA, 176 posts
7 Oct 2017 9:23PM
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Great to see this awesome event is on again. Nice work Tim in pulling it all together.
Have raced twice in the past, with my partner volunteering for the 2015 event as beach support. Now that she kites, we were really hoping to do the race together. No chance we would have been competitive, but just a great thing to do.
Excitedly, jumped onto the site to register, then looked at the costs....damn

Race entrance fee: $165 per person (Requirement to be a member of Kiteboarding Australia to enter)
KA membership: $162.50 per person (mandatory for entry)

For two of us to enter (as we are not currently KA members) total cost is $655. Sadly, we just can't justify this for a 30-40 minute crossing, even if we do get KA membership for a year and a trip to Rotto. Looks like we'll be out at the local instead.

Good luck to those that get in, hope you get a cranking 20+ for the race.

wishy
WA, 1187 posts
8 Oct 2017 10:48AM
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It would be about $45 per person cheaper if they canned the women's prize money.

Its like having prize money for men's netball...politically correct, but wouldn't you be embarassed collecting the trophy when there's only 11 other male netballers in the state?

snalberski
WA, 411 posts
8 Oct 2017 11:14AM
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Simsurf said..
Great to see this awesome event is on again. Nice work Tim in pulling it all together.
Have raced twice in the past, with my partner volunteering for the 2015 event as beach support. Now that she kites, we were really hoping to do the race together. No chance we would have been competitive, but just a great thing to do.
Excitedly, jumped onto the site to register, then looked at the costs....damn

Race entrance fee: $165 per person (Requirement to be a member of Kiteboarding Australia to enter)
KA membership: $162.50 per person (mandatory for entry)

For two of us to enter (as we are not currently KA members) total cost is $655. Sadly, we just can't justify this for a 30-40 minute crossing, even if we do get KA membership for a year and a trip to Rotto. Looks like we'll be out at the local instead.

Good luck to those that get in, hope you get a cranking 20+ for the race.



I agree. I was planning to enter and went though the registration form...looked into KA registration. Single event registration is available from KA for $60. That plus race entry fee is still $225 and I'm not even guaranteed of being given a spot as positions are alloted by ballot. Maybe I should just foil from Leighton to Rotto and back again.

litekite
WA, 15 posts
8 Oct 2017 12:49PM
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Wishy - it would be even cheaper if you canned all of the prize money. Why don't we just do that?

Simsurf - from your KA membership you not only get worldwide insurance for kiting - great for travel as there's a limited number of travel insurance companies that actually cover kiting and it is so much easier and better value to just pick the best value travel insurance for everything else, than to trawl the internet/fine print to find one that covers kiting and pay top dollar for it. KA membership pays for itself for me just from this.

But you're also covered even if you don't travel to kite, in Aussie if you accidentally take out a bystander's kid or something. Not cheap to cover the cost of being sued without it I guess. And you'll need the KA membership to take part in any/all events that are on. Once you have it, you're in - therefore you guys could give a go to the other events happening over summer if you wanted to. Significantly, you're also then part of ensuring that both WAKSA and KA exist at all and that there is someone looking at advocating for the sport and advancing the sport here - including maintaining beach access etc. Worth considering. I renew mine each year.

Great work Tim, excited to hopefully compete!

INTHELOOP
QLD, 1825 posts
9 Oct 2017 9:44AM
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The event will be amazing!!Cannot wait and i got a feeling that we will finally get a 25 knots Doc blowing!

Yann77
WA, 12 posts
9 Oct 2017 11:54AM
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Definitely worth the price, top organisation and great event! So good to have it in WA.

snalberski
WA, 411 posts
9 Oct 2017 12:27PM
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? WTF Do I detect a removed reply post from Simsurf regarding the outrageous charges associated with with entering the LtoL?
Could someone clarify how the ballot works...

Ballot. Noun. 1.a system of voting secretly and in writing on a particular issue.

Does this mean that the organisers simply choose which entrants they want to allow to compete based on their perception of their worth, regardless of whether or not they have paid the same amount as everyone else?

Yann77
WA, 12 posts
9 Oct 2017 1:19PM
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I think I can still read the post from Simsurf.

The ballot is a draw and is public, you can assist at Fremantle Sailing Club on Tuesday 31st October 2017 at 6pm if you have any concerns.

Simsurf
WA, 176 posts
9 Oct 2017 3:23PM
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snalberski said..
? WTF Do I detect a removed reply post from Simsurf regarding the outrageous charges associated with with entering the LtoL?
Could someone clarify how the ballot works...

Ballot. Noun. 1.a system of voting secretly and in writing on a particular issue.

Does this mean that the organisers simply choose which entrants they want to allow to compete based on their perception of their worth, regardless of whether or not they have paid the same amount as everyone else?


I requested it be removed as was not in the spirit of this fantastic event.
Bit of a late night rant.
No conspiracy theories.

L2L
157 posts
9 Oct 2017 7:50PM
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snalberski said..
? WTF Do I detect a removed reply post from Simsurf regarding the outrageous charges associated with with entering the LtoL?
Could someone clarify how the ballot works...

Ballot. Noun. 1.a system of voting secretly and in writing on a particular issue.

Does this mean that the organisers simply choose which entrants they want to allow to compete based on their perception of their worth, regardless of whether or not they have paid the same amount as everyone else?


Simply put, no. The organising team of the L2L prefer to reference the broader definition of ballot, that perhaps you missed when quoting (!), see below bullet point # 4, per 'a lottery ...'

Yes, there are sponsored spots and spots secured for international athletes from overseas, but the vast majority (80% plus) of the spots for the L2L are allocated on a 'name out of the hat' basis. There is full transparency every year and the ~ 40 to 50 people who have attend the annual prior ballot night will readily verify this. All are welcome at FSC to review the proceedings :-)





windywander
WA, 50 posts
9 Oct 2017 8:36PM
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It is worth stopping by FSC to watch the ballot and enjoy a beverage.

Chatting with other potential racers, enjoying a nice view and venue. A bit of anticipation while you hope for a spot.

If I recall last year correctly it was a child who drew the names out, with 2 people verifying and recording the names.

Looking forward to a good season/draw/race, see everyone out there kiting wherever suits you.

snalberski
WA, 411 posts
9 Oct 2017 8:52PM
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L2L said..

snalberski said..
? WTF Do I detect a removed reply post from Simsurf regarding the outrageous charges associated with with entering the LtoL?
Could someone clarify how the ballot works...

Ballot. Noun. 1.a system of voting secretly and in writing on a particular issue.

Does this mean that the organisers simply choose which entrants they want to allow to compete based on their perception of their worth, regardless of whether or not they have paid the same amount as everyone else?



Simply put, no. The organising team of the L2L prefer to reference the broader definition of ballot, that perhaps you missed when quoting (!), see below bullet point # 4, per 'a lottery ...'

Yes, there are sponsored spots and spots secured for international athletes from overseas, but the vast majority (80% plus) of the spots for the L2L are allocated on a 'name out of the hat' basis. There is full transparency every year and the ~ 40 to 50 people who have attend the annual prior ballot night will readily verify this. All are welcome at FSC to review the proceedings :-)






Thanks for that clarification. How many entrants on average miss out on a spot, and do the unsuccessful ones get a refund of their registration fees from KA and L2L?

tightlines
WA, 3029 posts
9 Oct 2017 10:46PM
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I'm just stoked that I am in with a chance of doing my 2 favourite races back to back.
The King of the Cut SUP Downwinder (another wicked race) the week before and then the L2L, for the last few years they have been on on the same day.
I'll be stoked if I can give the Cape Doctor a run again and the wind really cranks.

L2L
157 posts
10 Oct 2017 8:28AM
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snalberski said..

L2L said..


snalberski said..
? WTF Do I detect a removed reply post from Simsurf regarding the outrageous charges associated with with entering the LtoL?
Could someone clarify how the ballot works...

Ballot. Noun. 1.a system of voting secretly and in writing on a particular issue.

Does this mean that the organisers simply choose which entrants they want to allow to compete based on their perception of their worth, regardless of whether or not they have paid the same amount as everyone else?




Simply put, no. The organising team of the L2L prefer to reference the broader definition of ballot, that perhaps you missed when quoting (!), see below bullet point # 4, per 'a lottery ...'

Yes, there are sponsored spots and spots secured for international athletes from overseas, but the vast majority (80% plus) of the spots for the L2L are allocated on a 'name out of the hat' basis. There is full transparency every year and the ~ 40 to 50 people who have attend the annual prior ballot night will readily verify this. All are welcome at FSC to review the proceedings :-)






Thanks for that clarification. How many entrants on average miss out on a spot, and do the unsuccessful ones get a refund of their registration fees from KA and L2L?


In the past we have received ~ 200 entries for the 140 available spots. As for refunds, you only pay the entry fee once you secure a spot.

KA Membership, whilst we encourage you to be insured and a member of KA 365 days of the year, you technically don't need to be a member to apply/ nominate, as long as you are a member prior to race day or have an Event Membership, you are good to race.

Thus far we have 35 entries in and the race today gets announced world wide via www.iksurfmag.com our amazing magazine and media partner.

snalberski
WA, 411 posts
10 Oct 2017 9:03AM
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L2L said..

snalberski said..


L2L said..



snalberski said..
? WTF Do I detect a removed reply post from Simsurf regarding the outrageous charges associated with with entering the LtoL?
Could someone clarify how the ballot works...

Ballot. Noun. 1.a system of voting secretly and in writing on a particular issue.

Does this mean that the organisers simply choose which entrants they want to allow to compete based on their perception of their worth, regardless of whether or not they have paid the same amount as everyone else?





Simply put, no. The organising team of the L2L prefer to reference the broader definition of ballot, that perhaps you missed when quoting (!), see below bullet point # 4, per 'a lottery ...'

Yes, there are sponsored spots and spots secured for international athletes from overseas, but the vast majority (80% plus) of the spots for the L2L are allocated on a 'name out of the hat' basis. There is full transparency every year and the ~ 40 to 50 people who have attend the annual prior ballot night will readily verify this. All are welcome at FSC to review the proceedings :-)






Thanks for that clarification. How many entrants on average miss out on a spot, and do the unsuccessful ones get a refund of their registration fees from KA and L2L?



In the past we have received ~ 200 entries for the 140 available spots. As for refunds, you only pay the entry fee once you secure a spot.

KA Membership, whilst we encourage you to be insured and a member of KA 365 days of the year, you technically don't need to be a member to apply/ nominate, as long as you are a member prior to race day or have an Event Membership, you are good to race.

Thus far we have 35 entries in and the race today gets announced world wide via www.iksurfmag.com our amazing magazine and media partner.


Thanks again for the explanation it sounds fabbo.... Hope I get a spot!

WC Canvas
WA, 55 posts
Wednesday , 11 Oct 2017 7:37AM
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Sweet, hope I get picked to race. Cant wait to smash that 19 min record this year.

theDoctor
NSW, 4201 posts
Wednesday , 11 Oct 2017 12:09PM
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INTHELOOP said..
....i got a feeling that we will finally get a 25 knots Doc blowing!


Wait What....?

L2L
157 posts
Sunday , 15 Oct 2017 6:10PM
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Two weeks before entries close off and we are not at capacity yet (max. of 140 spots), so the good news is that everyone who has entered, right now has a spot!

So, keep training! * Wind permitting !

If you are thinking of 'Experiencing Extraordinary' in Western Australia on 09 December 2017 at the Red Bull Lighthouse to Leighton and want to know a bit more about it, be sure to review the amazing words and pictures from our media partner, IKSURF Magazine, who religiously fly out from the UK to report on the # 1 kite boarding race in the Southern Hemisphere and will return again in 2017. Great job, Rou Chater!

2016: www.iksurfmag.com/issue60/?page=121
2015: www.iksurfmag.com/issue54/?page=171
2014: www.iksurfmag.com/issue48/?page=21

Enter here: www.lighthouse2leighton.com.au

Entries close Sunday 29th October!



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