The Bow Kite Revolution

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oxy
oxy
WA
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oxy oxy
WA, 50 posts
31 Mar 2006 3:36pm

Just interested to know what are everyones thoughts are on the Bow kite.

Like do you prefer c kites over bows.???
Do you prefer SLE kites over the traditional bow kite.???
Have you gone bow and come back to a c kites or you would never come back to a c kite.???
Do you think the Vegas is the way to go for a kite, that is a c kite with massive depower.????
Or are you just sitting on the fence and waiting to see what comes out for the 2007 season????


Ben De Jonge
Ben De Jonge
WA
819 posts
WA, 819 posts
31 Mar 2006 3:38pm
Bow kites are revolting.
bigairman
bigairman
WA
40 posts
WA, 40 posts
31 Mar 2006 3:47pm
Im a wind junkie, need that rush so I guess Im a c kite man.

Bow kites are for old men that just could not be bothered digging that edge in and holding on.

When Im old I will probably get one , but just not yet.
silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
31 Mar 2006 7:04pm
You right bigairman, I just love my bow kites!!!
Devil-Fish
Devil-Fish
WA
40 posts
WA, 40 posts
31 Mar 2006 4:24pm
I may be biased but...

I really reakon its depends on what kind of kiter you are and what you aspire to be..

From my expirience bow's really suit the average joes who cruise up and down popping little to medium size jumps, who arent really going to get any good very quickly. They love having that depower on tap so at the slightest gust they can push the bar out and everything is safe and boring again. These guys are a dime a dozen at most beaches they are not really very interesting to watch, pretty much reapeat the same thing over and over. But when they come off the water tell you bow's are the best thing ever and would never go back to a c. These guys dont like power, hense why they love bow so much, they make them feel safe and allow them to do there boring routine, maybe getting a new trick down once a season. Of course there are exception's but this is the majority.

ON the other hand most guys at the top level who are reallly pushing it are still using c's. They like power,they use there edge to control power rather than the bar and hense really know who to ride a kite. This is the only way your going to ride with style and will be able to learn wakestyle and no whip trips as well as boosting big, its all about eding and popping. Unfortunaley bow's dont breed this style of rider. im seeing more and more poo stance bow riders that use their bar instaed of the board , hense arent going to get anywhere very quickly. (But at least thay feel safe).

If you want to progress quicker, become a good solid, learn tricks quicker and look a hell more stylish go the C kite. Infact i think all newbies should start off on a C, with a good safety system so they are forced into learning how to kite proberly. Then choose whether to go down the bow path if safe boring kiteing is what you want. But lets face it why did we all get into kiteing in the first place, to boost thoses 30 ft airs..

If you want to go hard go C.
For the weekend or once a month cruiser not interested in tricks and keeping within his boundaries not really pushing himself go bow.

RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
31 Mar 2006 5:18pm
You havnt seen anyone using a bow in big waves have you DFISH???
Im not a big friend of bows myself , but they shure have their place in waveriding.
loose fin
loose fin
QLD
219 posts
QLD, 219 posts
31 Mar 2006 7:33pm
I used to think the same about bows, boring and for the cruisers,
UNTIL
I moved inland, away from the coast. The winds inland south africa are nightmare gusty, fickle and sometimes dangerous, and to really enjoy those conditions, a bow is a huge positive. Unless you are absolute pro level, being able to pull off tricks in these conditions with a bow is way more easy than a C, so for 99% of kiters inland gusty, bows have given access to kiting comfort to allow people to attempt stuff, that they would not be able to do inland with a C.

ya ya ya edging etc, but if you have to spend 90% of your time edging to cope with the wind gusts, you never get to relax to think about the next trick, what you are doing wrong etc. bows defn have their place in locations with tricky wind conditions.
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
SA, 2898 posts
31 Mar 2006 8:04pm
Hey, I am certainly a C kite fan, and see bows as more a marketing device than a genuine progress for the sake of progress thing.

However they do appeal to about a third of the kiting population and no one should be deriding these guys as second rate kiters etc. as Devil fish seems to be doing.
there is nothing wrong with kiting for the fun of cruising and pulling cruisy jumps.

Now if you were to call them Gay? now that's another question.
ronaldkite
ronaldkite
WA
25 posts
WA, 25 posts
31 Mar 2006 6:04pm
your gay arent you ral inn.
extralarge
extralarge
WA
17 posts
WA, 17 posts
31 Mar 2006 6:06pm
Hey guys Im new to the sport not sure which way to go bow or c.
Alot of my mates ride c kites and say a bow makes an average kiter look good, and a good kiter look average.

Seen bow kites invert alot which worries me alot, but I do like the hole depower concept.Or should I look at the VEGAS 06.
15to25ne
15to25ne
WA
24 posts
WA, 24 posts
31 Mar 2006 6:11pm
Tried the bows not for me, I love riding on the knot fully powered and boosting big, c kites rule.
azza
azza
1338 posts
1338 posts
31 Mar 2006 6:28pm
quote:
Originally posted by ronaldkite

your gay arent you ral inn.



Is that a statement or a question? A taunt or a flirt?

ronaldkite,
your use of the language really needs some work! It is not clear whether you wish to engage RAL INN in a dual or, take him out on a date ending with your subtle moans. I'm guessing the latter is your flavour!

(Careful Wonnykite; he's a big hairwy man and you're just a widdle boi. Your Leading Edge will go limp if your valve is stretched.)
bondo
bondo
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
31 Mar 2006 10:59pm
quote:
Originally posted by ronaldkite

your gay arent you ral inn.



i believe the correct term is hermaphrodite.
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
31 Mar 2006 9:29pm
I would have to agree with loose fin. I don't want surprises in gusty conditions on the Razor Rocks. Man loose you sure get around, when you coming back to WAAAAAA...the River is on, just like last year this time It is cold and early, we know you love it.

merman
merman
QLD
431 posts
QLD, 431 posts
1 Apr 2006 12:26am
why is it that everyone of you C boys has to give **** to new technology.... heh? cant afford a new kite??????

i mean farrrk kiting is a new sport,, its changing month to month, why do we have to segregate Bow/C kiters!!!!!!! were all kiting n thats what matters doesnt it?

Hey, i know some of the posts on seabreeze are just in fun n ****stering, n ive had my fair share of smart arse comments, but!

4 farrks sake fly the kite you like!!!! for all you ****sterers you can eat my upwind Turbo Diesel wake....
NSW, 4382 posts
1 Apr 2006 8:56am
Ride what you like, stop dissing people who ride a different kite to you, its so ****ing lame, gay dribble.

Isn't life hard enough without some life experienced brat telling you that you are no good, just because you don't do unhooked bar pass stuff?
Isn't life tough enough being a life experience starved brat, without punishing yourself by making judgements about your own riding and everyone elses? Always wandering around in am I cool daze, ondering if your moves are rated by other paranoid tossers??
You guys crack me up, seriously!!

Do it for fun, or find something else to do where you are not taking up valuable space near the beach showing off to the peanut gallery!

The fact is that bow kites are here to stay, because they do offer a higher degree of safety, enjoyment, and user friendliness to the 80% of riders that do want to just cruise and jump.
The other 20% will be catered for with C kites for a while longer yet, but the choices of brands and models will dry up as demand and volumes drop off, which is fine because a lot of you are lemmings anyway, you all aspire to do the same tricks, so you may as well all be using the same kite!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack
Prepare
Prepare
WA
132 posts
WA, 132 posts
1 Apr 2006 6:20am
quote:
Originally posted by Devil-Fish

I may be biased but...

I really reakon its depends on what kind of kiter you are and what you aspire to be..

From my expirience bow's really suit the average joes who cruise up and down popping little to medium size jumps, who arent really going to get any good very quickly.

If you want to go hard go C.
For the weekend or once a month cruiser not interested in tricks and keeping within his boundaries not really pushing himself go bow.



I went upwind the day I got my bow, it was the 5th time I had ever flown a kite. I went out on my bow last week in some pretty big surf, it was my 3rd time on my bow.

thanks for letting me know I shouldnt be pushing myself because I ride a bow. I'll make sure I only go out and cruise a once a month from now on.
azza
azza
1338 posts
1338 posts
1 Apr 2006 7:03am
quote:
Originally posted by Prepare

Originally posted by Devil-Fish

... I'll make sure I only go out and cruise a once a month from now on.



and don't ever buy a C kite again! [Steve might be forced to snigger as he takes your cash because he's been consumed by the mental picture he has, of you walking off a cliff.]
silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
1 Apr 2006 11:02am
“Blah”, “blah”, “blah”, “kiting is sick”, “kiting is gay”, “kiting is up”, and “kiting is down”
The amount of controversy around this sport is immense!!!
This is because we love it.
Bow, C, foils or else is not important.
The important think is that after a hard working day, we are out there: the water, the skies, the kite...and sometimes when needed, we are all together to help someone in need.
NSW, 4382 posts
1 Apr 2006 11:51am
quote:
Originally posted by azza

quote:
Originally posted by Prepare

Originally posted by Devil-Fish

... I'll make sure I only go out and cruise a once a month from now on.



and don't ever buy a C kite again! [Steve might be forced to snigger as he takes your cash because he's been consumed by the mental picture he has, of you walking off a cliff.]




I sell C kites, and no, don't snigger when someone walks out with one or a quiver, I respect their choice and only stock quality kites, so its all good.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack
azza
azza
1338 posts
1338 posts
1 Apr 2006 9:07am
quote:
Originally posted by Kitepower Australia

...
The other 20% will be catered for with C kites for a while longer yet, but the choices of brands and models will dry up as demand and volumes drop off, which is fine because a lot of you are lemmings anyway, you all aspire to do the same tricks, so you may as well all be using the same kite!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack

4DICE
4DICE
QLD
158 posts
QLD, 158 posts
1 Apr 2006 11:18am
did that guy just call me a lemming??
silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
1 Apr 2006 1:17pm
quote:
Originally posted by 4DICE

did that guy just call me a lemming??


So what's wrong with that?
Lemmings are cute, social animals!
And whats wrong with aspiring to do the tricks other do?
In my opinion, there is a place for all technologies if they are Cs, foils or bows, there is nothing wrong with diversity, and I would recommend all of you - watch Mark Shinn's video:

http://www.kitefilm.com/video/shinn1024.wmv

Prepare
Prepare
WA
132 posts
WA, 132 posts
1 Apr 2006 10:58am
nice movie, looks like a sketchy beach though.
Eye of the storm
Eye of the storm
QLD
131 posts
QLD, 131 posts
1 Apr 2006 1:29pm
I love my C kites but I imagine i will swap over in the next year or so. Depower is great if it means one less kite to drag around.
lemming
lemming
WA
75 posts
WA, 75 posts
1 Apr 2006 1:35pm
I am self-titled lemming!

I am new to kiting and am using a bow. As I am still in early stages, I am dreaming of the heady heights of being able to cruise up and down all day, pulling the one occassional trick which it took all season to learn... and so what - why would that matter to anyone else on the beach than me. I have taken up kiting because I thought it would be fun to do, and so far it is. I suspect it will get less fun if some tosser comes up to me on the beach and tells me that my kiting is boring.

As far as I can see there is nothing wrong with wanting a safe de-power system such as is provided with bow kites. Kiting is moving forward. For people to slag off other for wanting to be as safe as possible when doing a potentially very dangerous hobby, is just plain stupid. I suppose these are people who don't wear seatbelts in cars, because in the good old days "we never had 'em... and I am still here to tell the tale!!"

Think on...

Lemm
silviu
silviu
VIC
663 posts
VIC, 663 posts
1 Apr 2006 5:10pm
Hey Lemm,
Do you have fun? Do you enjoy when you are on the water?
That's important.
So what is somebody else think your kiting is boring? Are you kiting for the nuts gallery, or for your enjoyment?
Keep this in mind.
Good winds, have fun and be safe
lemming
lemming
WA
75 posts
WA, 75 posts
1 Apr 2006 2:25pm
That is my point exactly.

As it happens, my kiting would be very enteraining to others on the beach - they could watch and laugh as I fall off the board every which way!!! :-)

Thing is I am enjoying trying it and given my current obvious lack of skill, I feel that a bow kite give me more safety.

In relation to this discussion, I don't think it matter whether you ride a bow or a C - if it does what you want it to then who cares which you ride, or more particularly, who cares what everyone else rides! After all, we don't all drive the same car now do we...

Lemm
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
1 Apr 2006 5:55pm
Just wanted to clear up a thing or 2 about LEMMINGS who seem to be getting a bad rap in this thread.
Lemmings don't follow each other blindly to mass suicides off cliffs. This is a myth originated in a Walt Disney "documentary".
www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/04/27/1081903.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscience

It was a good computer game though.
NSW, 4382 posts
2 Apr 2006 10:04am
quote:
Originally posted by tobes

Just wanted to clear up a thing or 2 about LEMMINGS who seem to be getting a bad rap in this thread.
Lemmings don't follow each other blindly to mass suicides off cliffs. This is a myth originated in a Walt Disney "documentary".
www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/04/27/1081903.htm?site=science/greatmomentsinscience

It was a good computer game though.



Sorry Tobes
Taken from www.dictionary.com

lem?ming ( P ) Pronunciation Key (lmng)
n.
Any of various small, thickset rodents, especially of the genus Lemmus, inhabiting northern regions and known for periodic mass migrations that sometimes end in drowning.

Being a lemming can be both a good and bad thing depends on your perspective, in the post I made above it was used as bait, for a laugh.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McCormack
bigmac
bigmac
WA
10 posts
WA, 10 posts
2 Apr 2006 8:12am
Hey 15to25ne why dont you just call into steve and get that bow. We all know you want to. Just bite the bullet dude you'll be glad you did bows rock.
quote:
Originally posted by 15to25ne

Tried the bows not for me, I love riding on the knot fully powered and boosting big, c kites rule.

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