The WORST THINGS in kiteboarding

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gregkites
gregkites
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4 posts
12 Jul 2012 9:54am
Hi guys,
I'm doing some research into kitesurfing (already have a similar thread running) and I'd like to know what do you hate about the current kite designs (it can be detailed imperfections or very general problems).
Let me start off with a few issues, I think are causing people headaches:
- Kite control (I noticed most kitesurfers don't like slow/sluggish kites but more direct responding ones)
- Wind speed range (having to buy many kites to make sure you cover all wind speeds)
- Setup time and needing help with initial launch.
I'd like to get as much info on this as possible, please let me know if these really are the main issues in kitesurfing and please feel free to add your own frustrations.
Thanks guys,
Greg
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
12 Jul 2012 11:44am
The worst things in Kiteboarding : Whingers!
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
12 Jul 2012 1:48pm
NickT said...

The worst things in Kiteboarding : Whingers!


There needs to be more shorts over wetsuits!
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
12 Jul 2012 1:58pm
NickT said...

The worst things in Kiteboarding : Whingers!


hahahaha hes from the United Kingdom- whinging pom.

Dont come to Australia mate, too many of you lot in the Norther suburbs of Perth.
echunda
echunda
VIC
765 posts
VIC, 765 posts
12 Jul 2012 2:59pm
Kiters

Nah, just kidding I know a couple of kiters I'd have a beer with.

Worst thing about kiters?

I guess the only thing I can think of is when I see them tangle the lines or they get some beach debris caught in the lines.

That's gotta piss you off a bit
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
12 Jul 2012 3:11pm
Fisho's
suface2air
suface2air
QLD
701 posts
QLD, 701 posts
12 Jul 2012 3:36pm
no BLOODY WIND[}:)] or when it rain that has to be the best wind stopper of all time
yep
yep
WA
86 posts
yep yep
WA, 86 posts
12 Jul 2012 2:22pm
forums
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
2174 posts
ACT, 2174 posts
12 Jul 2012 6:19pm
3rd time posters



do you kite? if not, why the interest??

do you work for a council or some other overbearing
authoritarian fun/blood sucking kill joy organization???

please do tell
Andobear
Andobear
VIC
76 posts
VIC, 76 posts
12 Jul 2012 7:00pm


SELF INFLATABLE KITES!!!!!

fingerbone
fingerbone
NSW
921 posts
NSW, 921 posts
12 Jul 2012 7:29pm
Having to save up enough money to give it a go😒
Hoping when buying a second hand kite it's not a piece of crap 😖
Waiting to get lessons
Trying to find an adequate place to learn so as not to piss off anyone
Etc etc.
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
WA, 8407 posts
12 Jul 2012 6:22pm
Underoath said...

NickT said...

The worst things in Kiteboarding : Whingers!


hahahaha hes from the United Kingdom- whinging pom.

Dont come to Australia mate, too many of you lot in the Norther suburbs of Perth.


Yeh and too many gob ****es like you ding boy
mitch88
mitch88
NSW
271 posts
NSW, 271 posts
12 Jul 2012 8:34pm
I ate a big red candle
wdric
wdric
NSW
1625 posts
NSW, 1625 posts
12 Jul 2012 9:10pm
My kite wont fly when I can see my reflection in the water, hands down the number 1 worst thing about kite boarding is NO FREAKING WIND
COL
COL
NSW
554 posts
COL COL
NSW, 554 posts
12 Jul 2012 9:27pm
mitch88 said...

I ate a big red candle


What drugs are they?
COL
COL
NSW
554 posts
COL COL
NSW, 554 posts
12 Jul 2012 9:31pm
wdric said...

My kite wont fly when I can see my reflection in the water, hands down the number 1 worst thing about kite boarding is NO FREAKING WIND



Phew, for a minute there I thought it was your reflection you hated. You're right, the lack of a wind switch is the big problem. The odd broken body part is a bitch too ah.
Col
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
12 Jul 2012 9:13pm
Greg I assume by now you have ascertained the current level on enthusiasm for your requested information.

Get more specific with your questions, do some research elsewhere and come back with some specifics. Otherwise I'm afraid most of us will also supply our red candle eating afflictions.
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
12 Jul 2012 11:48pm
gregkites said...

Hi guys,
I'm doing some research into kitesurfing (already have a similar thread running) and I'd like to know what do you hate about the current kite designs (it can be detailed imperfections or very general problems).
Let me start off with a few issues, I think are causing people headaches:
- Kite control (I noticed most kitesurfers don't like slow/sluggish kites but more direct responding ones)

Kite control only really gives learners headaches, but that's just the learning process, just as catching the wrong edge on a snowboard can (literally) give you a headache. All kites can be adjusted to change the flying characteristics by changing attachment points etc. So in summary - kite control is not a problem and if it is, you need to practice more, OR you bought the wrong kite for your riding style and/or needs. Kind of like me complaining that my Kombi should handle like a sports car.

- Wind speed range (having to buy many kites to make sure you cover all wind speeds)

The laws of fluid mechanics pretty much govern this - power on a kite increases proportionally with the square of the wind speed. This search for the "one kite quiver" is a bit of nonsense really, you don't see guys in the America's Cup searching for a single set of sails to suit all conditions. Advances have been made that mean you are less likely to get yourself beaten about if you find yourself in stronger wind than your kite is suited but the reality is unless your local has a very narrow wind range you're going to need more than one kite.


- Setup time and needing help with initial launch.

I've sailed a range of yachts, from little Optimists to Keel Boats and a Kite is super quick to setup, in the scheme of things. Short of using CO2 canisters to inflate the kite I can't see how it could be any faster. If you do it the same way, every time you get pretty quick at it and most of my rigging time is involved checking the lines, attachments, bridles etc to ensure they are safe to use - sensible pre flight checks.
As for needing help with initial launch, is this an issue? I think it's an aspect of the sport that bonds kiters together, the chance to support someone in a mutual interest and get to know the guys at your regular spot. And if you need to, every kite has a means of being self launched.

Are you studying to be a consultant? Because you have come on this board listing problems that are non-issues and suggesting they need solving, without really knowing anything about the sport. Possibly why you got a stack of red thumbs.
gregkites
gregkites
4 posts
4 posts
13 Jul 2012 7:22am
thanks guys...hehe, no I'm studying engineering, but as you can probably see I still have to learn a lot more about kitesurfing. I know what I listed was very general, maybe I should've been more specific in terms of kitesurfing categories.

G
Craig66
Craig66
NSW
2466 posts
NSW, 2466 posts
13 Jul 2012 2:08pm
mitch88 said...

I ate a big red candle


sweet Mitch, can i go for a nite kite with you? you can lead the way
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6160 posts
QLD, 6160 posts
13 Jul 2012 3:58pm
kiters
Kazan
Kazan
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
13 Jul 2012 8:17pm
I have to agree with @london. Sorry but I actually took your initial post seriously and I think it's a good one. I am not a pro by any means and I am relatively new to the sport. The one thing that would be good is for a system to hold the kite's shape without an inflatable bladder. I had a further think about this and maybe it's already been invented, but why not use a foam insert and can easily be zipped in and out without the need to inflate anything? Obviously it's cumbersom to carry with the kite but there could be a way to create a foam insert that matches the shape of the kite as if it was inflated, but be portable in such a way that it can be folded back into the kite bag.
The other thing that really annoys me with kite surfing is the wind window. I know this comes from experience and there is no need to worry, but it would be good to have something that alerts you that you are either at the wind window about the water start and not at an angle to it if you know what I mean. When you have your back to the wind, you may not necessarily be perpendicular to it ready to start properly. You may be at an angle to it, and this will cause the kite to dive too quickly into the power zone. The reason I say this is because in the conditions I've been learning, there are 3 to 4 foot waves smashing onto your back, the wind is relentless and you have to hold onto the kite with one have and somehow manage to swing your feet into the foot pads all in under a concentrated and coordinate way that you manage to do all of this in less tha 5 seconds? Hmmm if there was an alert process that acts like the "tuner of a guitar" it would tell you the right moment to swing into action and get it right the first time every time. How cool would that be?
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