Trainer kites

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oli37
oli37
WA
37 posts
WA, 37 posts
12 Jan 2009 11:29am
For a complete newby, is it worth getting a trainer kite to begin with or should I put the $169 towards real gear once I'm ready to buy?
tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
12 Jan 2009 1:31pm
No need to buy a trainer. But it is definately worth using one a few times before your lesson.

Do you have a make you could borrow one off for a couple of weeks?
safetyboy
safetyboy
NSW
58 posts
NSW, 58 posts
12 Jan 2009 2:30pm
I had a 2m Trainer that I flew on and off for a year before I got kiting -I got a bad first inflatable lesson and decided not to take up the hobby, but eventually came back - but in the meantime I took it out when it was blowing 15+ just for fun.

I found that I had an edge in kite flying ability over the people I was learning with that allowed me to progress a little bit faster - I understood the dynamics of the kite a little better and wasn't as scared of the big inflatables. You can really zing a little trainer across the power window and understand what is going on with the apparent wind and why it is powering up.

Given that a 3 hour lessons costs $300+ (I think - I learnt overseas) it makes sense to drop $100 or so on a second hand trainer if it can advance you faster.

I have been kicking around selling my trainer, as I don't see myself using it much anymore - where abouts are you?

When I was in Kitepower the other day I saw them signing training kites in and out - I don't know if they have some sort of rental program or somesuch, but maybe you could look at that.
Knickers
Knickers
WA
257 posts
WA, 257 posts
13 Jan 2009 9:37am
Hey Oli,
Trainer kites are fun to have around even when you are going on full sized kites- you can lend them to friends or family to play with when they have to sit around on windy beaches waiting for you to finish your session!

I saw the kids of a kiter dad getting flogged by a trainer kite yesterday at Melville- even a trainer kite can teach you about what the power of the wind can do if you're not in control, as well as give you flight skills.

(Note- trainer kites can hurt bystanders as good as full sized power kites )
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
13 Jan 2009 10:11am
Hi All,

A decent trainer kite can teach you how to fly and steer a kite in about 10 minutes, but it is the continual flying of trainers that build in the automatic and unconscious ability to fly the kite without thinking.

When you can fly the kite without thinking, you can listen to your instructor and process the information whilst still flying the kite. This is the primary reason most people have so much trouble getting onto a board when learning to kite. They can fly the kite ok, until you add the board, then too much to think about and the kite is forgotten about once they start focusing on the board and usually crashes.

A good trainer is a huge help when learning to kitesurf and can be a good investment for when friends want to play around with your full size

Beg, Borrow or buy a trainer and enjoy.

Good winds,



NSW, 4382 posts
13 Jan 2009 2:43pm
safetyboy said...

I had a 2m Trainer that I flew on and off for a year before I got kiting -I got a bad first inflatable lesson and decided not to take up the hobby, but eventually came back - but in the meantime I took it out when it was blowing 15+ just for fun.

I found that I had an edge in kite flying ability over the people I was learning with that allowed me to progress a little bit faster - I understood the dynamics of the kite a little better and wasn't as scared of the big inflatables. You can really zing a little trainer across the power window and understand what is going on with the apparent wind and why it is powering up.

Given that a 3 hour lessons costs $300+ (I think - I learnt overseas) it makes sense to drop $100 or so on a second hand trainer if it can advance you faster.

I have been kicking around selling my trainer, as I don't see myself using it much anymore - where abouts are you?

When I was in Kitepower the other day I saw them signing training kites in and out - I don't know if they have some sort of rental program or somesuch, but maybe you could look at that.


Yes Kitepower does have a rental program fro trainer kites, but I think its much better value to buy one and use it as much as possible for the first 6-12 months, any kite flying teaches you to be a better kite flyer.
We will trade in a trainer kite that was purchased from us, but in several years less than 5 people have taken that option.
Its better to keep it and loan it to interested friends of keep flying it and improving kite skills.

If you do get a trainer kite get a 3 liner, like the Ozone Imps (version3 in store now), because they have a let the bar go safety, which prepares you for the way the primary safety on most modern high depower kites operate.
The latest version3 Imp trainer flies slower and turns with a wider arc to more closely simulate kitesurfing kites.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

graceful
graceful
WA
773 posts
WA, 773 posts
13 Jan 2009 1:07pm
is it possible to skim board with a trainer??
how much wind would you need if possible,35 plus??
funkyllama
funkyllama
TAS
308 posts
TAS, 308 posts
13 Jan 2009 11:15pm
Definately recommend a trainer kite! They are stacks of fun and give you a way to give mates a go - they can feel the power and understand why you needed lessons to use one 6 times the size in the same wind...

I am flying the ozone imp quattro 2.5 for fun, same as all the other ozone versions but with 2 handles instead of a bar, really gives you a work out and is also good to get the frustration out when you've smashed your big kite and need to thrash something through powerzones without getting pummelled. Having said that, check out the dude and ozone trainer in this vid (in the first minute of footage), this was in about 20odd knots...



And yes i have seen dudes kiting on skimboards with trainers in the shallows, very dodgy but doable.
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